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Landeskog to Toronto

Created by: MauriceArthur15
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 15, 2021
Published: Jul. 16, 2021
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Kuemper, Darcy
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    Becomes a 2022 1st if Kuemper resigns

    It’s a double retention trade
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      Jul. 16, 2021 at 3:33 p.m.
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      Devils doing salary retention in what trade?
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 3:34 p.m.
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      Everything I've been reading and hearing around the league is that Landeskog wants between $9M-$10M annually. Colorado offered him around $6M on a 8 year deal.. can't see him signing for $7M for 6 years as you have because of that
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 3:37 p.m.
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      I think you have Holl overvalued. His advanced stats have him as a Zaitsev away from Muzzin. Center depth is also scaring me.
      Quoting: RebelCoach
      Devils doing salary retention in what trade?


      Kuemper, double retention trade
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 3:40 p.m.
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      Quoting: TrueCanuck
      Everything I've been reading and hearing around the league is that Landeskog wants between $9M-$10M annually. Colorado offered him around $6M on a 8 year deal.. can't see him signing for $7M for 6 years as you have because of that


      Yea but you also have to remember Toronto can front load the deal. If he’s chasing money like he is currently Toronto or another big market team is the best bet as they can give him ridiculous signing bonuses up front.
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 3:40 p.m.
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      Zero chance he signs that, Seattle selects Kuemper
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 3:41 p.m.
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      Quoting: Gizmoh
      I think you have Holl overvalued. His advanced stats have him as a Zaitsev away from Muzzin. Center depth is also scaring me.

      Kuemper, double retention trade


      Might be but having picks coming back will be needed to replenish a lot of the picks traded
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 3:43 p.m.
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      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
      Zero chance he signs that, Seattle selects Kuemper


      Unlike Calgary owners Toronto’s owners are rich and can give him ridiculous singing bonuses. He can have 35 million within 3-4 yrs.

      The protected lists hasn’t been revealed as yet…
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 3:49 p.m.
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      Quoting: MauriceArthur15
      Unlike Calgary owners Toronto’s owners are rich and can give him ridiculous singing bonuses. He can have 35 million within 3-4 yrs.

      The protected lists hasn’t been revealed as yet…


      Uh no they cant, new CBA prevents contracts like Matthews and Marners now

      Are you going to protect 2 goalies? The idea of Zona trading Kuemper is to protect Hill
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 3:57 p.m.
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      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
      Uh no they cant, new CBA prevents contracts like Matthews and Marners now

      Are you going to protect 2 goalies? The idea of Zona trading Kuemper is to protect Hill


      Where in the CBA does it say that. The reason teams didn’t do it last year was because teams didn’t have money. What’s the exact section of CBA where it says that as Toronto isn’t the only teams that made contracts like that.

      There are better options out there for Seattle to take in net that has term or they can give term. Allen, Khudobin, Driedger, and Ullmark to name a few.
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 3:59 p.m.
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      Quoting: MauriceArthur15
      Yea but you also have to remember Toronto can front load the deal. If he’s chasing money like he is currently Toronto or another big market team is the best bet as they can give him ridiculous signing bonuses up front.


      That's not gonna make a difference when the income tax rate is higher in Canada. On a $7M salary Landeskog would pay just under $850K more in taxes in Canada. If you front kid the deal and pay Landeskog $10M in salary in the first year, he ends up paying $1.2M more in taxes.. he likely doesn't sign in Canada for anything less than $9.5M
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:09 p.m.
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      Quoting: TrueCanuck
      That's not gonna make a difference when the income tax rate is higher in Canada. On a $7M salary Landeskog would pay just under $850K more in taxes in Canada. If you front kid the deal and pay Landeskog $10M in salary in the first year, he ends up paying $1.2M more in taxes.. he likely doesn't sign in Canada for anything less than $9.5M


      At the end of that day it’s going to be like that whether he goes to NY or LA. Unless he goes to Florida where they virtually have zero taxes lol. Plus all money is paid in USD. He would have 12 million in hard cash to do wherever he wants plus he doesn’t even need to buy a home as he already lives in the GTA
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.
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      Where in the CBA does it say that. The reason teams didn’t do it last year was because teams didn’t have money. What’s the exact section of CBA where it says that as Toronto isn’t the only teams that made contracts like that.

      There are better options out there for Seattle to take in net that has term or they can give term. Allen, Khudobin, Driedger, and Ullmark to name a few.


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      I never said only Toronto, but the rules were changed after the Toronto contracts

      Driedger and Ullmark are literally UFA's, Khudobin will be protected since Bishop waived, Kurmper is marginally better than Allen
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 5:38 p.m.
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      I never said only Toronto, but the rules were changed after the Toronto contracts

      Driedger and Ullmark are literally UFA's, Khudobin will be protected since Bishop waived, Kurmper is marginally better than Allen


      They can still front load with singing bonuses lmfao re read it. There’s only a percentage that it could be of the total contract. The percentage split just have to 75 to 25. Meaning they can give out the signing bonus up front and total salary must equal to 25% of the total contract value.

      So in this case 42 million over 6 years Toronto 31.5 can be paid out in signing bonus within the 4 years.

      They have a negotiating period with those players and can offer them 8yr deadline if they want
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 6:52 p.m.
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      Quoting: MauriceArthur15
      At the end of that day it’s going to be like that whether he goes to NY or LA. Unless he goes to Florida where they virtually have zero taxes lol. Plus all money is paid in USD. He would have 12 million in hard cash to do wherever he wants plus he doesn’t even need to buy a home as he already lives in the GTA


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      At the end of that day it’s going to be like that whether he goes to NY or LA. Unless he goes to Florida where they virtually have zero taxes lol. Plus all money is paid in USD. He would have 12 million in hard cash to do wherever he wants plus he doesn’t even need to buy a home as he already lives in the GTA


      Do you not understand how taxes work?

      If he's paid $12M, in Canada he's taxed slightly over 50% of that so he's already paying $6M of that $12M in tax. In Denver, it's not nearly as high. Instead of paying $6M in tax he'd pay roughly $4.8M.. would you rather have an extra $1.2M in your pocket to stay with a contending team? Cause I know every player in the league would. The tax situation is a huge deal actually.
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 8:03 p.m.
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      They can still front load with singing bonuses lmfao re read it. There’s only a percentage that it could be of the total contract. The percentage split just have to 75 to 25. Meaning they can give out the signing bonus up front and total salary must equal to 25% of the total contract value.

      So in this case 42 million over 6 years Toronto 31.5 can be paid out in signing bonus within the 4 years.

      They have a negotiating period with those players and can offer them 8yr deadline if they want


      I never said they cant frontload, just not absurdly like Toronto did with Matthews and Marner
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 8:36 p.m.
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      Quoting: Gizmoh
      I think you have Holl overvalued. His advanced stats have him as a Zaitsev away from Muzzin. Center depth is also scaring me.

      Kuemper, double retention trade


      I don't see Fitz using up one of his retentions for just a 4th in the end. There may be bigger deals, like Tarasenko or someone bigger, where they get more than a 4th. They also will want to save one for Subban for the deadline and maybe Wood.
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 10:27 p.m.
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      Do you not understand how taxes work?

      If he's paid $12M, in Canada he's taxed slightly over 50% of that so he's already paying $6M of that $12M in tax. In Denver, it's not nearly as high. Instead of paying $6M in tax he'd pay roughly $4.8M.. would you rather have an extra $1.2M in your pocket to stay with a contending team? Cause I know every player in the league would. The tax situation is a huge deal actually.


      He resides in Canada he has a house in the Kitchener area that they use in the offseason. I even believe his wife is from the Toronto area. I think they would have to pay taxes there and would know a thing or two about that. Maybe they would have an accountant handle that.

      No matter how you put even with taxes and leaving money off the table he can easily make it up with the millions of endorsements he would get in Toronto, or any big market for that matter as majority of larger markets are in high tax stars/provinces.

      Also to your point if theres lockout in 4 years, which will there a high possibility of due to contracts given out, player salaries aren’t guaranteed but signing bonuses are which is what makes them more attractive.

      No matter how you play the tax card it doesn’t work. Hes already paying Canadian taxes currently as he resides in his house GTA house in the offseason. His US income won’t be tax but the land and his Canadian investments would be.
      Jul. 16, 2021 at 10:32 p.m.
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      Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
      I never said they cant frontload, just not absurdly like Toronto did with Matthews and Marner


      But you said they can’t. Like I said Toronto owners are rich. 2/3 of Toronto owners are the top 2 Canadian cell phone companies. They can afford paying most of his contract in signing bonuses unlike other teams who use player salaries which aren’t lockout proof. It’s why Muzzin, Brodie and every single Toronto contract is up by 2025-26 as by then they’ll know if there’s a lockout. That year in particular is expected to be one due to these contracts hence why everyone wants most of their money in signing bonuses.
       
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