Teams that might have benefited from trading expansion exposed players

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Created by: Lancebmx

Team: 2021-22 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 18, 2021

Published: Jul. 18, 2021

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Not putting any value into these trades, just my opinion on teams that could have traded exposed players and come out ahead. Using Detroit because I feel like they could have an extra protection slot or two.
I didn't include Montreal cause man, would Seattle even take price with what he is owed this year and makes for the next five? I think they take a chance on Drouin. Also if they traded Drouin, it might force them to take price, if Montreal wants to keep their best goalie.

What do people think of these?

Enjoy.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler	4	$4,500,000
Hronek, Filip	4	$4,500,000
Cholowski, Dennis	2	$925,000
Lindström, Gustav	2	$925,000
Smith, Givani	2	$925,000
Svechnikov, Evgeny	2	$925,000
Vrána, Jakub	4	$5,250,000
Verbeek, Hayden	2	$825,000
Pearson, Chase	2	$825,000
Rasmussen, Michael	2	$1,200,000
Erne, Adam	2	$1,500,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Bernier, Jonathan		2	$3,600,000

Trades

DET

Fleury, Haydn

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Anaheim just traded for this guy and now leave him exposed?

ANA

Probably the best pick for the Kraken, leaves them a better chance of Seattle picking Henrique. They could also pick Guhle, he seems like he's going to be an okay defenceman. Not sure this is the best candidate but I think you could have gotten an alright return and better chance of getting out of henriques deal.

DET

Domi, Max

CBJ

I'm not a huge fan but I'm sure someone would pay something for this guy instead of leaving him exposed. Next best player is stenlund in my opinion. I feel like the value returned for Domi would be greater than the value for stenlund. Domi had a down year but had good numbers with Montreal for the most part, hard to see someone not paying like a second or something for him.

DET

Bishop, Ben

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Dallas already traded Dickinson to avoid losing him for nothing.

DAL

Need an elite starting goalie? When healthy he's one of the best in the net, hard give him up for nothing with so many teams needing a good tender.

DET

Kähkönen, Kaapo

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I was shocked to see him exposed over Talbot, I thought he was the goalie of their future. Although exposing him might save Soucy.

MIN

Again, really good young goalie, giving up for nothing. Can't see a team that wouldn't want him if they had the chance. Only benefit of keeping him is protecting Soucy who now moves up to second line duties.

DET

Eberle, Jordan

NYI

Can't see a team that wouldn't want to pick up Eberle, he's got to have some decent trade value. Next best players available are Bailey, who I think is quite over paid for his production, and Aho who hasn't really got a chance to play. I would have definitely tried to get some value back for Eberle and maybe got lucky and shed baileys contact.

DET

Dunn, Vince [RFA Rights]

STL

I guess exposing tarasenko might have saved Dunn, but it would still be hard to pass up a team controlled 24 year old defenceman with his skills. Tarasenko could probably be traded for if they really wanted him for less than what Dunn's value probably would be. That said the blues could have tried to force Seattle to take tarasenko by moving out Dunn.

DET

Colton, Ross [RFA Rights]
Foote, Cal [RFA Rights]

TBL

If I'm Seattle I go after one of these two guys, screw palat, killorn, Gourde and Johnson. Only palat is worth his money. Colton and Foote have far greater value than any of those four. Not sure Tampa's best bet scenario but I would have tried to trade for one of those guys if possible.

DET

McCann, Jared

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Ok what? They just traded for this guy? I'm so confused

TOR

Did I miss something here? Why did Toronto trade for this guy just to leave him exposed as the best player to be taken? Didn't they want to move out kerfoots salary? Either way considering what they t traded for him, in my opinion could have got a similar return I guess? And been able to move out Kerfoot most likely?

DET

Appleton, Mason

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I would love to have this guy on my team.

WPG

Only reason I could come up with of not getting value for this guy is protecting Demelo who they traded for and signed to an extension last season. Other than that I'm sure a bunch of teams would have given up an asset for him.

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DET

Vanecek, Vitek

WSH

This is probably similar to Winnipeg, expose a good young goalie in order to save sheary and their defence? Not sure if it is the best value option but who knows.

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556

Retained Salary Transactions

Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2021
2022
2023

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
27	$81,500,000	$75,498,057	$0	$850,000	$6,001,943

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Vrána, Jakub $5,250,000$5,250,000 LW UFA - 3	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C UFA - 2	Zadina, Filip $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 1
Fabbri, Robby $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW UFA - 1	Rasmussen, Michael $1,200,000$1,200,000 LW, C UFA - 3	Bertuzzi, Tyler $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Svechnikov, Evgeny $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Namestnikov, Vladislav $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW, C UFA - 1	Erne, Adam $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Smith, Givani $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Nielsen, Frans $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
McCann, Jared $2,940,000$2,940,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Domi, Max $1,325,000$1,325,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Eberle, Jordan $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 3
		Appleton, Mason $900,000$900,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Leddy, Nick $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD UFA - 1	Hronek, Filip $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD RFA - 3	Bernier, Jonathan $3,600,000$3,600,000 G UFA - 2
Cholowski, Dennis $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 1	Stecher, Troy $1,700,000$1,700,000 RD UFA - 1	Greiss, Thomas $3,600,000$3,600,000 G UFA - 1
DeKeyser, Danny $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Lindström, Gustav $925,000$925,000 RD RFA - 2	Bishop, Ben $4,916,667$4,916,667 G M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Fleury, Haydn $1,300,000$1,300,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Kähkönen, Kaapo $725,000$725,000 G UFA - 1
		Vanecek, Vitek $716,667$716,667 G UFA - 1

Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:11 p.m.

ggha777

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My thought is Toronto made a deal with Seattle not to take McCann and take Kerfoot....I also think maybe they traded for McCann in hopes that if Seattle does take Kerfoot or McCann they still have a 3C

Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:14 p.m.

EccE

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Kähkönen played in 24 games and nobody still knows what kind of a goalie he is. He won nine straight, great. A couple weeks later he let in nine goals in one game. He also played behind a great defense. At almost 25 years old, he absolutely should be more consistent. He has the talent to be a starter, but right now I wouldn't even trust him being my backup.

IMO, Seattle has better options than him. We protected Talbot to win now.

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Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:15 p.m.

Lancebmx

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Quoting: ggha777

I could see that, but until the details all come out I'm confused by it

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Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:17 p.m.

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Quoting: EccE

Inconsistent rookie season, at his age goalies are just coming into their own, if I'm Seattle I jump at the opportunity to draft him.

Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:20 p.m.

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Quoting: Lancebmx

Inconsistent rookie season, at his age goalies are just coming into their own, if I'm Seattle I jump at the opportunity to draft him.

While it would certainly suck to lose him, we'd find a replacement in the UFA market quite easily. Granted, we'd also have to find a new starter to replace Talbot after two years when his contract runs out, but that's not a problem for today.

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Jul. 18, 2021 at 6:42 p.m.

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Edited Jul. 18, 2021 at 7:16 p.m.

Agree completely with your assessment.
Jarmo (and Torts) have completely sh*t all over this team for the last 3 years. It makes me absolutely sick to see the likes of Karlsson, Dubois, Anderson, Murray, & Wenberg thriving in other markets while the Jackets continue to wallow in their upper management and coaching incompetence. Not to mention soon to be Domi, Jones & Laine!!!

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Jul. 18, 2021 at 7:06 p.m.

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I think it's possible some of these teams did make a deal and we just don't know about it yet. I heard that the Wild left kahkonen exposed because Seattle is going to take Soucy.

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Jul. 18, 2021 at 7:07 p.m.

Isles777

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Eberle was linked to LA. I’m surprised he wasn’t traded, one of the more underrated wingers in the league. I have no idea what Lou’s plan is for the expansion draft. Lol

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Jul. 18, 2021 at 7:11 p.m.

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Quoting: Isles777

Eberle was linked to LA. I’m surprised he wasn’t traded, one of the more underrated wingers in the league. I have no idea what Lou’s plan is for the expansion draft. Lol

Yeah Lamoriello really loves him some Clutterbuck and Martin. Sounds like a comedy duo.

Jul. 18, 2021 at 7:16 p.m.

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Quoting: RedWing9119

Yeah Lamoriello really loves him some Clutterbuck and Martin. Sounds like a comedy duo.

Lol I think Lou wants to upgrade on Eberle and go after Tarasenko (not a guaranteed upgrade) or Landeskog if he’s available. I don’t think this was about being afraid to lose Martin/clutterbuck , I’d bet there is a side deal. What that is I’m not sure.

Jul. 18, 2021 at 7:18 p.m.

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Quoting: RedWing9119

I think it's possible some of these teams did make a deal and we just don't know about it yet. I heard that the Wild left kahkonen exposed because Seattle is going to take Soucy.

I wouldn't doubt it, but as far as I know right now this is what I think. I would love to see a few of these guys on the red wings for the right price.

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Jul. 18, 2021 at 7:26 p.m.

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Quoting: Isles777

I think tarasenko will be, he put up 14 points in 24 games. That's hard to do when you come in with no training camp just off a surgery. I think with a full summer to train, some motivation from going to a new team, and a good training camp he will be close to his former self.

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Jul. 18, 2021 at 7:29 p.m.

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Quoting: Lancebmx

Yeah but he only had 2 even strength goals in 24 games and he wasn’t driving play offensively like he used to.I think it’s more likely he’ll have a 2nd line impact next season

Jul. 18, 2021 at 8:09 p.m.

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Quoting: Isles777

Yeah but he only had 2 even strength goals in 24 games and he wasn’t driving play offensively like he used to.I think it’s more likely he’ll have a 2nd line impact next season

Hard to come into the season half way through, but u agree he looked a step behind

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Jul. 18, 2021 at 8:12 p.m.

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Yeah but he only had 2 even strength goals in 24 games and he wasn’t driving play offensively like he used to.I think it’s more likely he’ll have a 2nd line impact next season

It may take him a while to trust his shoulders again. Especially going into the corners. I'd give him another year to get the magic back.

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Jul. 18, 2021 at 10:31 p.m.

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Quoting: Lancebmx

I wouldn't doubt it, but as far as I know right now this is what I think. I would love to see a few of these guys on the red wings for the right price.

Quoting: Lancebmx

Inconsistent rookie season, at his age goalies are just coming into their own, if I'm Seattle I jump at the opportunity to draft him.

You have the right to your opinion, but by all accounts including consistent comments from wild beat writer, and one of the best in the business, and wild gm comments on podcast he's prepared to lose a dman, it will be Carson soucy

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