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kaprizov for boeser and schmidt

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Team: 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 24, 2021
Published: Jul. 25, 2021
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Jul. 25, 2021 at 6:24 a.m.
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Pettersson for Fiala, Rask
Jul. 25, 2021 at 6:25 a.m.
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Boeser and a cap dump for Kaprizov? Aight....
Jul. 25, 2021 at 6:38 a.m.
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Kaprizov for Boeser and your 2022 first would be highway robbery.
Jul. 25, 2021 at 6:42 a.m.
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Kaprizov signs for 3 years max.
Jul. 25, 2021 at 7:44 a.m.
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The only reason why Kaprizov hasn't signed yet is because they disagree on the term of the contract. So why would he suddenly sign such a team friendly contract with VAN?

Not to mention the trade is dreadful for the Wild, too.
Jul. 25, 2021 at 10:41 a.m.
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There are some big "ifs" here. The first assumption is that Kaprizov doesn't really want to be in Minny. The huge amount of dead cap for the Wild makes building a winner nearly impossible for several years, which is an obvious turnoff for any player. The Wild are in a hopeless situation for attracting anyone who cares about team success, let alone a guy who can just go home to Russia. As for city vs city, well, he'd have a much higher profile in Canada and Vancouver specifically looks sexier on paper.

The 2nd assumption is that the Wild would prefer to trade Kaprizov rather than lose him to the KHL for nothing. Acquiring a Minny native in Boeser has attractive feel-good PR benefits that the Wild could use in the wake of the bleak outlook of years of unprecedented dead cap space.

The 3rd assumption is that the Wild need D-men. While I can't wrap my head around why Suter was bought out, the fact remains that those minutes need to be replaced. Schmidt could be a great partner for Dumba or Spurgeon. Schmidt did have a huge down year in Vancouver, but there are many reasons to believe that it was a situational problem and not a player problem. The Canucks defence as a whole is constructed terribly and coached even more poorly. There was no synergy in any pairing and despite Quinn Hughes offensive numbers, Schmidt was the Canucks best defenceman.
Jul. 25, 2021 at 3:52 p.m.
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Quoting: CanucksMJL
There are some big "ifs" here. The first assumption is that Kaprizov doesn't really want to be in Minny. The huge amount of dead cap for the Wild makes building a winner nearly impossible for several years, which is an obvious turnoff for any player. The Wild are in a hopeless situation for attracting anyone who cares about team success, let alone a guy who can just go home to Russia. As for city vs city, well, he'd have a much higher profile in Canada and Vancouver specifically looks sexier on paper.

The 2nd assumption is that the Wild would prefer to trade Kaprizov rather than lose him to the KHL for nothing. Acquiring a Minny native in Boeser has attractive feel-good PR benefits that the Wild could use in the wake of the bleak outlook of years of unprecedented dead cap space.

The 3rd assumption is that the Wild need D-men. While I can't wrap my head around why Suter was bought out, the fact remains that those minutes need to be replaced. Schmidt could be a great partner for Dumba or Spurgeon. Schmidt did have a huge down year in Vancouver, but there are many reasons to believe that it was a situational problem and not a player problem. The Canucks defence as a whole is constructed terribly and coached even more poorly. There was no synergy in any pairing and despite Quinn Hughes offensive numbers, Schmidt was the Canucks best defenceman.



Yeah, your assumptions, and bias thinking doesn't make it fact no matter how much you think so.

Kaprizov isn't being traded. Wild counter with fiala for Petersson. We can assume he doesn't want to sign either.
Jul. 25, 2021 at 3:53 p.m.
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Yeah, your assumptions, and bias thinking doesn't make it fact no matter how much you think so.

Kaprizov isn't being traded. Wild counter with fiala for Petersson. We can assume he doesn't want to sign either.


He doesn't want to go to khl. What weeks reported isn't fact. You know Michael Russo who covers said differently

Nate schmidt is a cap dump no team wants and Canucks have to pay to get rid of him

Any other assumptions?
Jul. 26, 2021 at 2:31 a.m.
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Yeah, your assumptions, and bias thinking doesn't make it fact no matter how much you think so.


I listed possible reasons that the foundation of this trade could make sense. The very first sentence I wrote was to make it clear that the proposal could make sense IF the rationale I laid out were true.

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Kaprizov isn't being traded. Wild counter with fiala for Petersson. We can assume he doesn't want to sign either.


Even if Pettersson didn't want to sign in Vancouver (for which you provided no basis), there is no risk of losing him to the KHL for nothing. The worst-case scenarios are a huge offer sheet or a holdout. An offer sheet could screw the Canucks, but a holdout hurts the player more than the team.

Kaprizov may love Minnesota and stay forever. He is also Russian and until he is under contract the threat of leaving will loom. Some players do leave and others just use it as negotiating leverage to get whatever they want. It has happened before and it will happen again.
Jul. 26, 2021 at 12:04 p.m.
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I listed possible reasons that the foundation of this trade could make sense. The very first sentence I wrote was to make it clear that the proposal could make sense IF the rationale I laid out were true.



Even if Pettersson didn't want to sign in Vancouver (for which you provided no basis), there is no risk of losing him to the KHL for nothing. The worst-case scenarios are a huge offer sheet or a holdout. An offer sheet could screw the Canucks, but a holdout hurts the player more than the team.

Kaprizov may love Minnesota and stay forever. He is also Russian and until he is under contract the threat of leaving will loom. Some players do leave and others just use it as negotiating leverage to get whatever they want. It has happened before and it will happen again.


The Peterson thing is in response to canucks fans like yourself from wild fans including myself telling you kaprizov is going nowhere and everytime a kaprizov to Canucks proposal is made, wild fans will ask for Petersson or Hughes to end the convo
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