SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Finalizing the off-season

Team: 2021-22 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 6, 2021
Published: Aug. 6, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
2$1,400,000
3$4,750,000
2$2,750,000
2$975,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Bokk, Dominik
  2. Gardiner, Jake
  3. 2022 1st round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/500953
CAR
  1. Olofsson, Victor
  2. 2022 5th round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
***Stolen from a Cane Fan***
2.
BUF
  1. Kaliyev, Arthur
  2. Kupari, Rasmus
  3. Madden, Tyler
  4. Quick, Jonathan
  5. 2022 1st round pick (LAK)
Additional Details:
Feel this could be something the sabres would take right now. Future assets, but not cleaning out the Kings with all their top prospects.

Quick included for King's Cap Space
LAK
  1. Eichel, Jack
Additional Details:
Another Rasmus, to make up the lost of Risto
3.
BUF
  1. Bellows, Kieffer [RFA Rights]
  2. Hickey, Thomas
  3. Komarov, Leo
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (NYI)
NYI
    Future Considerations
    Buyouts
    Buried
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2022
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the FLA
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the LAK
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    2023
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the NYI
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    2024
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    Logo of the BUF
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$58,885,847$113,916$1,062,500$22,614,153
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $825,000$825,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $1,600,000$1,600,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $750,000$750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $9,000,000$9,000,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $1,050,000$1,050,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    RW, LW, C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    $975,000$975,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $2,900,000$2,900,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,050,000$4,050,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $3,875,000$3,875,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $750,000$750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $2,822,764$2,822,764
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $900,000$900,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $1,600,000$1,600,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
    $2,200,000$2,200,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 2

    Embed Code

    • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
    • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

    Text-Embed

    Click to Highlight
    Aug. 6, 2021 at 6:03 a.m.
    #26
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 19,547
    Likes: 5,038
    Quoting: GoodIdeaAtTheTime
    Well you have an interesting research methodology... This is a pretty massive assumption. There is also the possibility (which you ignore to serve your chosen narrative - talk about intellectual integrity...) that Eichel ends up getting fusion. The overwhelming weight of medical (and, more to the point, tort) history says he almost certainly loses any medical arbitration case (which is likely why he hasn't filed).

    His alternative? Do nothing or go rogue and get the surgery he wants anyway, either of which results in suspension and not being paid for as long as 5 years...

    Eichel has just about zero leverage beyond willingly sacrificing $10M/year and his career.


    What? If he wants surgery, he's got the right to get whatever surgery he wants. It's his human right, and he would be able to sue the NHL for medical negligence if they didn't allow him to get the little to no risk surgery that would give him the replacement disk. If he wants to get out of the punishment, all he has to do is say "I retire" and then there's nothing the Sabres can do to him! Oh, and the recovery surgery in case the disk replacement goes wrong? Is the operation the Sabres want him to undergo.... There's no WAY that would harm his career. Any other team would have let him have the surgery he wants because it's borderline no risk! If it's successful, he's ready for training camp. If not, then he has to undergo the surgery that everyone else in his position has done before him.

    https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/31-thoughts/why-eichel-wants-a-disc-replacement/

    This is a 31 thoughts podcast with the doctor Eichel got his second opinion from in Denver. He's the medical consultant for the Denver Broncos. I highly recommend listening to this if you haven't already, just because of the educational purposes, and learning what actually happens in the human body, but beyond that, it explains why Eichel wants the procedure he does in the way that he does.

    And if you think that the Sabres are going to suspend... possibly the best player they've ever had suit up for them for 5 years for going rogue and getting what he wants to be done to his body, then I feel sorry for you. Buffalo does not have the ability to force Eichel to undergo surgery that he doesn't consent to. That would be malpractice and HIGHLY illegal. He's going to get what he wants, and he's going to be traded to do it because there's nothing quite as useless as a 10 million dollar hockey player who can't play and refuses to get the surgery you want him to.
    Aug. 6, 2021 at 6:15 a.m.
    #27
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2021
    Posts: 941
    Likes: 606
    Edited Aug. 6, 2021 at 6:39 a.m.
    Quoting: Caniac2000
    What? If he wants surgery, he's got the right to get whatever surgery he wants. It's his human right, and he would be able to sue the NHL for medical negligence if they didn't allow him to get the little to no risk surgery that would give him the replacement disk. If he wants to get out of the punishment, all he has to do is say "I retire" and then there's nothing the Sabres can do to him! Oh, and the recovery surgery in case the disk replacement goes wrong? Is the operation the Sabres want him to undergo.... There's no WAY that would harm his career. Any other team would have let him have the surgery he wants because it's borderline no risk! If it's successful, he's ready for training camp. If not, then he has to undergo the surgery that everyone else in his position has done before him.

    https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/31-thoughts/why-eichel-wants-a-disc-replacement/

    This is a 31 thoughts podcast with the doctor Eichel got his second opinion from in Denver. He's the medical consultant for the Denver Broncos. I highly recommend listening to this if you haven't already, just because of the educational purposes, and learning what actually happens in the human body, but beyond that, it explains why Eichel wants the procedure he does in the way that he does.

    And if you think that the Sabres are going to suspend... possibly the best player they've ever had suit up for them for 5 years for going rogue and getting what he wants to be done to his body, then I feel sorry for you. Buffalo does not have the ability to force Eichel to undergo surgery that he doesn't consent to. That would be malpractice and HIGHLY illegal. He's going to get what he wants, and he's going to be traded to do it because there's nothing quite as useless as a 10 million dollar hockey player who can't play and refuses to get the surgery you want him to.


    Lol, so incredible, awe-inspiringly wrong and with such confidence! The doctor is selling his product. There is no longitudinal data of any relevant length and no data whatsoever on NHL players. Fusion is still the recommended surgery and the safest option at this point. It is known to be effective. Artificial disk replacement carries a very real risk of recurrence in contact sports, ossification, and various other risks typical of non-organic replacements.

    Also, the CBA says this decision is the team's. So wax poetic all you want about "human rights". He signed the contract. He has to abide by the CBA.

    Yes, he's going to retire, sacrifice millions, and never play again... That'll show 'em! (If he fake retires, the contract remains in effect should he return.)

    Not going to bother with the rest of your nonsense since you're so wrong... Just pathetic. But at least you were consistent in how amazingly wrong you were on every point I bothered to read before giving up on you as a human being.
    Aug. 6, 2021 at 6:34 a.m.
    #28
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 19,547
    Likes: 5,038
    Quoting: GoodIdeaAtTheTime
    Lol, so incredible, awe-inspiringly wrong and with such confidence! The doctor is selling his product. There is no longitudinal data of any relevant length and no data whatsoever on NHL players. Fusion is still the recommended surgery and the safest option at this point. It is known to be effect. Artificial disk replacement carries a very real risk of recurrence in contact sports, ossification, and various other risks typical of non-organic replacements.

    Also, the CBA says this decision is the team's. So wax poetic all you want about "human rights". He signed the contract. He has to abide by the CBA.

    Yes, he's going to retire, sacrifice millions, and never play again... That'll show 'em! (If he fake retires, the contract remains in effect should he return.)

    Not going to bother with the rest of your nonsense since you're so wrong... Just pathetic. But at least you were consistent in how amazingly wrong you were on every point I bothered to read before giving up on you as a human being.


    Wow, you really enjoy being wrong huh?

    Fusing the discs together is the far riskier option here. It limits mobility in the back, and it means that Eichel will likely have to undergo surgeries long after his playing career. There's been NFL players, MMA fighters and even professional hockey players in other leagues with disk replacement surgeries and it's known to be far more effective than fusing the disks together because it doesn't affect the mobility. It also means that a player who's known for his shot gets to keep his talent.

    Ah, no. I suggest you re-read the CBA. The team get to suggest the final option, but they under NO circumstances can force the player to undergo that operation. They do not have to facilitate anything else, but they cannot FORCE a player to have a surgery they do not want. That is Highly illegal, dumbo.

    I'm not gonna continue arguing with you when you don't even know what the hell you're on about 😂😂😂
    Aug. 6, 2021 at 7:01 a.m.
    #29
    thewookie1
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2016
    Posts: 2,422
    Likes: 1,017
    LA trade is a big no, nothing there is worth Eichel And combined its more an insult
    Aug. 6, 2021 at 8:42 a.m.
    #30
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 6,694
    Likes: 3,362
    Canes pass - too much to give up.

    LAK don’t make sense for Eichel. No reason to give up a haul when they have two legit top 6 Cs.
    Aug. 6, 2021 at 9:04 a.m.
    #31
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Feb. 2017
    Posts: 8,273
    Likes: 6,247
    I wouldnt do any of these.
    Aug. 6, 2021 at 12:08 p.m.
    #32
    Thread Starter
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2017
    Posts: 4,032
    Likes: 1,923
    Quoting: vikhodush
    Canes pass - too much to give up.

    LAK don’t make sense for Eichel. No reason to give up a haul when they have two legit top 6 Cs.


    A cane fan made the trade
    Aug. 6, 2021 at 1:09 p.m.
    #33
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jul. 2021
    Posts: 7,136
    Likes: 3,156
    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Buddy, the FACT is he can't play.

    https://podcast.sportsnet.ca/31-thoughts/why-eichel-wants-a-disc-replacement/

    That's the doctor in Colorado he went to talk to explaining why he can't play until he gets surgery, and why he wants the surgery he wants.

    His value will diminish while he's on the shelf.

    Eichel doesn't hold the value you think he does right now

    Sorry you can't deal with it!


    Yawn
    Aug. 6, 2021 at 1:10 p.m.
    #34
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jul. 2021
    Posts: 7,136
    Likes: 3,156
    Quoting: GoodIdeaAtTheTime
    Well you have an interesting research methodology... This is a pretty massive assumption. There is also the possibility (which you ignore to serve your chosen narrative - talk about intellectual integrity...) that Eichel ends up getting fusion. The overwhelming weight of medical (and, more to the point, tort) history says he almost certainly loses any medical arbitration case (which is likely why he hasn't filed).

    His alternative? Do nothing or go rogue and get the surgery he wants anyway, either of which result in suspension and not being paid for as long as 5 years...

    Eichel has just about zero leverage beyond willingly sacrificing $10M/year and his career.



    Incredible, isn't it? People draw ridiculous conclusions and truly believe their uninformed opinion to be the only possible truth...



    This could still go either way to be fair but selling low does seem unlikely now.

    I suspect they are fine letting him sit out, suspending him for not doing as the team doctors say, and not paying him. Keeps him away from the team, forces him to realize his path back to the NHL is coming back and proving he's healthy (which is the route the Sabres should go anyway), saves the Pegulas $, makes a statement that the Sabres won't be pushed around no matter how much you complain (which is overdue), etc. Sabres aren't exactly a destination right now anyway so nothing to lose.

    That will turn up the heat on Eichel real fast. Adams has every reason in the world to make Eichel suffer here considering how badly he and his agents have handled this so far. (Who exactly was that statement they put out supposed to be helping? A trade is likely further away now than ever.)


    Good post
    Aug. 6, 2021 at 1:40 p.m.
    #35
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 6,694
    Likes: 3,362
    Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
    A cane fan made the trade


    Yep and I and most others called it out on that thread. Would prefer to look elsewhere at that price.
     
    Reply
    To create a post please Login or Register
    Question:
    Options:
    Add Option
    Submit Poll