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Fixing the Team

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Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 19, 2021
Published: Aug. 19, 2021
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1st move fixes the Habs reputation around the league
2nd move gets a solid, pass first centre to play with Hoffman and Caufield
3rd move gets a star defenseman to try to fill the hole left by Weber's retirement
Free Agent Signings
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    1. Mailloux, Logan [Reserve List]
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    1. 2022 3rd round pick (ANA)
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    2. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
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    Aug. 19, 2021 at 11:17 p.m.
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    Habs have to deal with Mailloux now. They have committed to supporting the development of his character and to awareness and support of a cause around what he did. There's no way out that isn't a cop out.

    I could do without Tierney trade, but I'll take the Giordano one and pair him with Savard. Might need more retention to make him fit though, can't just throw Drouin on LTIR.
    Aug. 19, 2021 at 11:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    Habs have to deal with Mailloux now. They have committed to supporting the development of his character and to awareness and support of a cause around what he did. There's no way out that isn't a cop out.

    I could do without Tierney trade, but I'll take the Giordano one and pair him with Savard. Might need more retention to make him fit though, can't just throw Drouin on LTIR.


    Why not did last year and there was absolutely nothing provable wrong with him.
    Aug. 19, 2021 at 11:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    Why not did last year and there was absolutely nothing provable wrong with him.


    We weren't given a reason, there obviously was one.
    Current indications are that he's ready to return, so he has to be accounted for.
    Aug. 19, 2021 at 11:55 p.m.
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    We weren't given a reason, there obviously was one.
    Current indications are that he's ready to return, so he has to be accounted for.


    Provable was the opportune word in my sentence. If there was a definitive medical procedure say like hip surgery we'd have known. Seems awfully convenient to me.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 12:16 a.m.
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    Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
    Provable was the opportune word in my sentence. If there was a definitive medical procedure say like hip surgery we'd have known. Seems awfully convenient to me.


    Are you one of those people who doesn't believe mental health is a thing? Addiction? Prioritizing a family member's well being? There are things with no "medical procedure" that we don't need to know about. That's why it's called a "personal" leave of absence, instead of "public".
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 12:18 a.m.
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    Are you one of those people who doesn't believe mental health is a thing? Addiction? Prioritizing a family member's well being? There are things with no "medical procedure" that we don't need to know about. That's why it's called a "personal" leave of absence, instead of "public".


    Not at all as someone who suffers from it however I also know it can also be used to ones convenience , so unless a player is in very serious counseling LTIR shouldn't be used for that.
    Personal leave of absence should just be stratched then.
    With Drouin and his maturity issues in the past I'm seeing this as a little to convenient
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 12:22 a.m.
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    Not at all as someone who suffers from it however I also know it can also be used to ones convenience , so unless a player is in very serious counseling LTIR shouldn't be used for that.
    Personal leave of absence should just be stratched then


    Not knowing the issue or how it's being treated, who are you to say so over the medical experts employed by the team and the league? A licensed professional signed off on it. The league has their own licensed professionals to verify it. If it was allowed, it's legitimate.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 12:27 a.m.
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    Not knowing the issue or how it's being treated, who are you to say so over the medical experts employed by the team and the league? A licensed professional signed off on it. The league has their own licensed professionals to verify it. If it was allowed, it's legitimate.


    I bet you were the same guy swearing Kucherov was healthy enough to play when he started skating too?
    A lot easier to claim "mental health issues than say a hip surgery how do you disprove it?
    All anyone has to say is "mental" health and you're a friggin **** bag if you question them? It's can be the I just am a quitter excuse . Sorry Drouin lost the benefit of the doubt with some of the **** that happened in the past
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 12:36 a.m.
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    I am so not trading Logan mailloux. Him and Guhle will be amazing top 4 D for a decade.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 12:45 a.m.
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    I am so not trading Logan mailloux. Him and Guhle will be amazing top 4 D for a decade.


    That kids lucky it was not a female relative of mine. I'd be in Prison for putting a .44 round between his eyes.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 1:27 a.m.
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    I bet you were the same guy swearing Kucherov was healthy enough to play when he started skating too?
    A lot easier to claim "mental health issues than say a hip surgery how do you disprove it?
    All anyone has to say is "mental" health and you're a friggin **** bag if you question them? It's can be the I just am a quitter excuse . Sorry Drouin lost the benefit of the doubt with some of the **** that happened in the past


    Now I see you were just trying to drive toward the Kucherov argument. It's not that he was injured. It's that there's a problem with the system, no limitations in the playoffs is just asinine when the salary cap is a key determining factor at every other time.
    Besides, Drouin didn't come back for the playoffs and put Montreal over the cap.

    And no, it's difficult to get a mental health diagnosis because it's normally a diagnosis of exclusion. You have to eliminate any potential physical causes before you can make a determination. It's not a magic word which precludes scrutiny, but when it's diagnosed it should be acknowledged.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 1:35 a.m.
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    Now I see you were just trying to drive toward the Kucherov argument. It's not that he was injured. It's that there's a problem with the system, no limitations in the playoffs is just asinine when the salary cap is a key determining factor at every other time.
    Besides, Drouin didn't come back for the playoffs and put Montreal over the cap.

    And no, it's difficult to get a mental health diagnosis because it's normally a diagnosis of exclusion. You have to eliminate any potential physical causes before you can make a determination. It's not a magic word which precludes scrutiny, but when it's diagnosed it should be acknowledged.


    No it isn't not at all. Especially if you know what to say.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 1:36 a.m.
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    No it isn't not at all. Especially if you know what to say.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 2:32 a.m.
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    No it isn't not at all. Especially if you know what to say.


    That perception is part of why many people don't take it seriously or believe those who suffer from it.

    Discussing it with your physician is important, but physical issues which could cause or contribute to poor mental health still have to be ruled out for a proper diagnosis.

    Anyway. I didn't mean to get into such a discussion. It's personal and people shouldn't be judged for it or have their struggles exposed for something beyond their control. If you disagree with that, you aren't worth further discussion.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 8:36 a.m.
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    Caufield and Suzuki will be a pair till they aren't on the team anymore (hopefully like 15 years)

    Don't need Tierney

    Gio wouldn't be bad but I doubt its realistic at all

    and MTL already made statements saying they'd help him so I doubt they renounce now
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    Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:11 a.m.
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    That kids lucky it was not a female relative of mine. I'd be in Prison for putting a .44 round between his eyes.


    Wow, nice violence considering she was older than him and already admitted she sexually pursued him. He was 17 in a foreign country trying to impress his older teammates. As opposed to people like you I’ve actually met with Logan and his parents and he knows it was a stupid mistake from an immature 17 year old. He’s a great kid from a great family.

    Also, nice to know you were perfect at 17. Finally, using your measuring stick about 30 current nhl players should not be playing in the nhl for stupidities they did under age 18.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:23 a.m.
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    Wow, nice violence considering she was older than him and already admitted she sexually pursued him. He was 17 in a foreign country trying to impress his older teammates. As opposed to people like you I’ve actually met with Logan and his parents and he knows it was a stupid mistake from an immature 17 year old. He’s a great kid from a great family.

    Also, nice to know you were perfect at 17. Finally, using your measuring stick about 30 current nhl players should not be playing in the nhl for stupidities they did under age 18.


    Never claimed to be perfect , wtf does her being older than he have to do with anything? Great kids are smart enough at 17 not to send pornographic material to their teammates. Thatis not a "great kid" . What if that was your daughter or niece or sister you'd be ahh great kid huh if so that makes you a piece of garbage.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:34 a.m.
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    Never claimed to be perfect , wtf does her being older than he have to do with anything? Great kids are smart enough at 17 not to send pornographic material to their teammates. Thatis not a "great kid" . What if that was your daughter or niece or sister you'd be ahh great kid huh if so that makes you a piece of garbage.


    I gather information and proceed on case by case situation. When 7 players had 1 girl in a hotel room in 2011, I was brought in to make assessment of situation. After 30 hours on individual counselling, 2 of the 7 were guilty. When I submitted my report those 2 were released and the other 5 are currently in the nhl.

    That’s just one of many I worked with over many years of counselling athletes. Keyboard warriors online often spew hate and swear words without having full knowledge or information from all sides before rendering a decision.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 9:58 a.m.
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    I gather information and proceed on case by case situation. When 7 players had 1 girl in a hotel room in 2011, I was brought in to make assessment of situation. After 30 hours on individual counselling, 2 of the 7 were guilty. When I submitted my report those 2 were released and the other 5 are currently in the nhl.

    That’s just one of many I worked with over many years of counselling athletes. Keyboard warriors online often spew hate and swear words without having full knowledge or information from all sides before rendering a decision.


    The victim has said basically that the "apology letter was a I'm sorry I got caught letter not a sincere apology. Do no he doesn't get a pass
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 10:05 a.m.
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    I gather information and proceed on case by case situation. When 7 players had 1 girl in a hotel room in 2011, I was brought in to make assessment of situation. After 30 hours on individual counselling, 2 of the 7 were guilty. When I submitted my report those 2 were released and the other 5 are currently in the nhl.

    That’s just one of many I worked with over many years of counselling athletes. Keyboard warriors online often spew hate and swear words without having full knowledge or information from all sides before rendering a decision.


    So let me see if I have this right. As a counselor you're ok with victim blaming "she was older than he." Really?!!!
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 10:08 a.m.
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    The victim has said basically that the "apology letter was a I'm sorry I got caught letter not a sincere apology. Do no he doesn't get a pass



    That quote was completely taken out of context and she’s been extremely well compensated
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 10:11 a.m.
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    That quote was completely taken out of context and she’s been extremely well compensated

    So money makes everything ok WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 10:14 a.m.
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    So let me see if I have this right. As a counselor you're ok with victim blaming "she was older than he." Really?!!!


    Not at all. I came down extremely hard on a forward from Ontario that did something in a hotel in Boston. I also came down very hard on a forward playing in the OHL that did something and the letter from his jersey was removed and I strongly recommended to the owner to trade the player immediately. Even though the player was 2nd in scoring the owner agreed with my findings and traded the player the following week.

    As per Logan’s situation many posted she was younger than him, some falsely reported as young as 12. So I told everyone involved to make sure in all our reports and communications to make sure to inform people she is in fact older than Logan and admitted to sexually pursuing Logan. These are documented facts.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 10:19 a.m.
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    So money makes everything ok WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    In 1987, a girl was raped at a university. To avoid embarrassment the university paid the 18 year old $100000. She took the money, left and had her university paid for.

    I am not saying it’s right, I’m saying it has been going on for a long time.

    A Tampa player got a girl pregnant while on a road trip and offered $1000 to the girl. I was asked to intervene and got $75000 for the girl. It’s hard for someone like you to fully grasp these situations because your opening statement was to terminate a person’s life by killing them with a bullet.
    Aug. 20, 2021 at 10:24 a.m.
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    Not at all. I came down extremely hard on a forward from Ontario that did something in a hotel in Boston. I also came down very hard on a forward playing in the OHL that did something and the letter from his jersey was removed and I strongly recommended to the owner to trade the player immediately. Even though the player was 2nd in scoring the owner agreed with my findings and traded the player the following week.

    As per Logan’s situation many posted she was younger than him, some falsely reported as young as 12. So I told everyone involved to make sure in all our reports and communications to make sure to inform people she is in fact older than Logan and admitted to sexually pursuing Logan. These are documented facts.


    Did she give permission for him to distribute the pictures.... No she is the victim I have absolutely no problem with 2 person's having consensual relationships however distributing pornographic material without her consent makes him a piece of garbage.
     
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