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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$80,830,406	$927,073	$620,000	$669,594

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Robertson, Jason $795,000$795,000 ($82,500$82K) LW, RW RFA - 1	Hintz, Roope $3,150,000$3,150,000 C UFA - 2	Pavelski, Joe $7,000,000$7,000,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Benn, Jamie $9,500,000$9,500,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 4	Seguin, Tyler $9,850,000$9,850,000 C, RW NMC UFA - 6	Radulov, Alexander $6,250,000$6,250,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Kiviranta, Joel $1,050,000$1,050,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Faksa, Radek $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Gurianov, Denis $2,550,000$2,550,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Raffl, Michael $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Glendening, Luke $1,500,000$1,500,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2	Comeau, Blake $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Kero, Tanner $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindell, Esa $5,800,000$5,800,000 LD NMC UFA - 4	Klingberg, John $4,250,000$4,250,000 RD UFA - 1	Khudobin, Anton $3,333,333$3,333,333 G M-NTC UFA - 2
	Heiskanen, Miro $8,450,000$8,450,000 LD/RD UFA - 8	Holtby, Braden $2,000,000$2,000,000 G UFA - 1
Suter, Ryan $3,650,000$3,650,000 LD NMC UFA - 4	Hakanpää, Jani $1,500,000$1,500,000 RD UFA - 3	Oettinger, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($537,500$538K) G RFA - 1
Sekera, Andrej $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Hanley, Joel $750,000$750,000 LD/RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Bishop, Ben $4,916,667$4,916,667 G M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2

Power Play 1
Pavelski, J.	Hintz, R.	Robertson, J.
	Gurianov, D.	Klingberg, J.

Power Play 2
Benn, J.	Seguin, T.	Radulov, A.
	Kiviranta, J.	Heiskanen, M.

Penalty Kill 1
	Faksa, R.	Benn, J.
	Suter, R.	Heiskanen, M.

Penalty Kill 2
	Glendening, L.	Comeau, B.
	Lindell, E.	Sekera, A.

Sep. 23, 2021 at 10:02 a.m.

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I do not think that this is a "mediocre" team but it's not a great team either.

IMHO, the problems with that lineup are the following:

- That 4th line is awful
- 4 players of the Top 6 are aged north of 30 and are way pass their prime production years. Logic dictates a decrease in production
- For the offense to thrive, you will need a lot of production from JR (second year), Hintz (I am very confident) and Gurianov (you will not get it if you slot him with Faksa)
- This line up needs another point producer in order to have 3 lines capable of producing sme goals. Kessel someone?
- Defense is fine
- Goaltending is somewhat puzzling like you mentioned
- Bowness is still the coach

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 10:17 a.m.

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Quoting: Phleb2

I do not think that this is a "mediocre" team but it's not a great team either.

IMHO, the problems with that lineup are the following:

- That 4th line is awful
- 4 players of the Top 6 are aged north of 30 and are way pass their prime production years. Logic dictates a decrease in production
- For the offense to thrive, you will need a lot of production from JR (second year), Hintz (I am very confident) and Gurianov (you will not get it if you slot him with Faksa)
- This line up needs another point producer in order to have 3 lines capable of producing sme goals. Kessel someone?
- Defense is fine
- Goaltending is somewhat puzzling like you mentioned
- Bowness is still the coach

The only place Faksa should see ice time is on the 4th line between Glendening and Comeau. Putting him anywhere near the top-8 forwards is going to absolutely torpedo any kind of offensive value those guys bring to the table. That being said, Bowness will stick him between a couple of those guys & then question why that line isn't producing any offense. Same song, different year.

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 10:28 a.m.

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Quoting: TheMooterus

The only place Faksa should see ice time is on the 4th line between Glendening and Comeau. Putting him anywhere near the top-8 forwards is going to absolutely torpedo any kind of offensive value those guys bring to the table. That being said, Bowness will stick him between a couple of those guys & then question why that line isn't producing any offense. Same song, different year.

Agree. I would have love for Nill to give a PTO to a guy like Ho Sang. This guy has tons of talent and he would slot nicely on the Top 9. That is, if he sort out his problems. I would be more confident with a Top 9 like this one with Faksa on the 4th line.

JR-Hintz-Pavelski
Kiviranta/Ho Sang-Seguin-Gurianov
Kiviranta/Ho Sang-Benn-Radulov
LG-Faksa-Comeau/Raffl/Kero/ etc. and under an average of 12 minutes a game

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 10:30 a.m.

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Quoting: Phleb2

I do not think that this is a "mediocre" team but it's not a great team either.

IMHO, the problems with that lineup are the following:

- That 4th line is awful
- 4 players of the Top 6 are aged north of 30 and are way pass their prime production years. Logic dictates a decrease in production
- For the offense to thrive, you will need a lot of production from JR (second year), Hintz (I am very confident) and Gurianov (you will not get it if you slot him with Faksa)
- This line up needs another point producer in order to have 3 lines capable of producing sme goals. Kessel someone?
- Defense is fine
- Goaltending is somewhat puzzling like you mentioned
- Bowness is still the coach

Quoting: TheMooterus

The only place Faksa should see ice time is on the 4th line between Glendening and Comeau. Putting him anywhere near the top-8 forwards is going to absolutely torpedo any kind of offensive value those guys bring to the table. That being said, Bowness will stick him between a couple of those guys & then question why that line isn't producing any offense. Same song, different year.

Robo - Hintz - Pavelski
Gurianov - Seguin - Radulove
Kiviranta - Benn - Raffl/Comeau
Glendening - Faska - Comeau/Raffl

Would that be better? I'm not sure there is really anyone else that can come up from the AHL for the 3C. I was going on that awesome past experience, and hoping they can re-ignite as not the main line anymore. I also think Kiviranta being on the 3rd line with Faska and Gurianov could have better offense than when Comeau was on the 3rd line most of last year

But yeah, I am fairly surprised Bowness made it through the offseason. I will assume he's on a very short leash

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 10:56 a.m.

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Quoting: mvp13

Robo - Hintz - Pavelski
Gurianov - Seguin - Radulove
Kiviranta - Benn - Raffl/Comeau
Glendening - Faska - Comeau/Raffl

Would that be better? I'm not sure there is really anyone else that can come up from the AHL for the 3C. I was going on that awesome past experience, and hoping they can re-ignite as not the main line anymore. I also think Kiviranta being on the 3rd line with Faska and Gurianov could have better offense than when Comeau was on the 3rd line most of last year

But yeah, I am fairly surprised Bowness made it through the offseason. I will assume he's on a very short leash

I do not know if that's better. But I think it shows that there is a piece missing on the Top 9. As far as I am concern, we only have one player that is entering his prime years in force with Hintz. Gurianov and Kiviranta are still a question mark in my mind, and JR is still pretty young. It's a pretty wild bet to think that our players north of 30 will increase or equal their production. Do not forget that two of them are coming back from major injuries.

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 11:08 a.m.

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Quoting: TheMooterus

The only place Faksa should see ice time is on the 4th line between Glendening and Comeau. Putting him anywhere near the top-8 forwards is going to absolutely torpedo any kind of offensive value those guys bring to the table. That being said, Bowness will stick him between a couple of those guys & then question why that line isn't producing any offense. Same song, different year.

Yeah agree 100%. A Glendening-Faksa-Comeau line could be very good if sheltered, Glendening is a clear upgrade over Cogs.

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 11:12 a.m.

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Quoting: Phleb2

Agree. I would have love for Nill to give a PTO to a guy like Ho Sang. This guy has tons of talent and he would slot nicely on the Top 9. That is, if he sort out his problems. I would be more confident with a Top 9 like this one with Faksa on the 4th line.

JR-Hintz-Pavelski
Kiviranta/Ho Sang-Seguin-Gurianov
Kiviranta/Ho Sang-Benn-Radulov
LG-Faksa-Comeau/Raffl/Kero/ etc. and under an average of 12 minutes a game

I’d go:
JRob-Hintz-Pavs
Kiviranta-Segs-Rads
Gurianov-Benn-Ho-Sang
LG-Faksa-Comeau

Play that 4th line under 10 minutes.

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 11:14 a.m.

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Quoting: Phleb2

I do not know if that's better. But I think it shows that there is a piece missing on the Top 9. As far as I am concern, we only have one player that is entering his prime years in force with Hintz. Gurianov and Kiviranta are still a question mark in my mind, and JR is still pretty young. It's a pretty wild bet to think that our players north of 30 will increase or equal their production. Do not forget that two of them are coming back from major injuries.

At this point our best bet is to hope that one of our young guns proves himself in camp. Someone like Damiani.

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 11:16 a.m.

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Quoting: EsoYeezus69

I’d go:
JRob-Hintz-Pavs
Kiviranta-Segs-Rads
Gurianov-Benn-Ho-Sang
LG-Faksa-Comeau

Play that 4th line under 10 minutes.

Dubas is a smart GM. He has both Ho Sang and Gusev on PTO with the Leafs. Granted that the Leafs have yet to performed in the PO but it's better to bet on players like these two with PTO than with players like Stefan Noesen, Scottie Upshall and R.J. Umberger

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 11:21 a.m.

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At this point our best bet is to hope that one of our young guns proves himself in camp. Someone like Damiani.

Agree, but watch Bowness sloting him with any duo of those players: Comeau/Kero/LG/Raffl/Faksa. After that, they will sent him down and tell us he needs to work big minutes in the AHL.

This was the case with JR last year before the injuries. They were playing him with boat anchors and JR was struggling. He blossomed when they "HAD" to play him on the Top 6. It was by "accident" that we had this wonderful year from JR, not by design.

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 11:24 a.m.

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Agree, but watch Bowness sloting him with any duo of those players: Comeau/Kero/LG/Raffl/Faksa. After that, they will sent him down and tell us he needs to work big minutes in the AHL.

This was the case with JR last year before the injuries. They were playing him with boat anchors and JR was struggling. He blossomed when they "HAD" to play him on the Top 6. It was by "accident" that we had this wonderful year from JR, not by design.

They played Dowling over JRob multiple times in the past couple of years. If it wasn’t for luck we’d probably be on par with the Sabres as jokes of the league.

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 12:26 p.m.

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Quoting: mvp13

Robo - Hintz - Pavelski
Gurianov - Seguin - Radulove
Kiviranta - Benn - Raffl/Comeau
Glendening - Faska - Comeau/Raffl

Would that be better? I'm not sure there is really anyone else that can come up from the AHL for the 3C. I was going on that awesome past experience, and hoping they can re-ignite as not the main line anymore. I also think Kiviranta being on the 3rd line with Faska and Gurianov could have better offense than when Comeau was on the 3rd line most of last year

But yeah, I am fairly surprised Bowness made it through the offseason. I will assume he's on a very short leash

While I'm certainly no fan of Bowness, Nill really couldn't fire him. He was the coach when Dallas made it to the finals a year ago (though I contend they made in IN SPITE of him, not because of him), and last season was absolutely brutal with injuries & the condensed schedule. While I think his system is atrocious for today's NHL, due to last year's circumstances Nill really couldn't fire the man. In terms of the lineup, in a perfect scenario, I run out these forward lines:

Robertson-Hintz-Pavelski
Gurianov-Seguin-Radulov
Kiviranta-Benn-Dellandrea/Damiani
Comeau-Faksa-Glendening
Raffl

Dellandrea had a bit of an up & down showing in Traverse City, but still has a chance to impress enough to make the roster out of camp. Damiani has absolutely skyrocketed up the Stars depth chart over the last year & he had a very nice Traverse City Tournament while playing almost exclusively on the wing (he's a primary Center). If either of those guys can make the roster, they are an instant upgrade over Raffl on the 3rd Line. This gives Dallas a true top-6, a 3rd line that can play well in all ends of the ice, and a 4th line specifically for defensive situations.

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 12:49 p.m.

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Quoting: TheMooterus

While I'm certainly no fan of Bowness, Nill really couldn't fire him. He was the coach when Dallas made it to the finals a year ago (though I contend they made in IN SPITE of him, not because of him), and last season was absolutely brutal with injuries & the condensed schedule. While I think his system is atrocious for today's NHL, due to last year's circumstances Nill really couldn't fire the man. In terms of the lineup, in a perfect scenario, I run out these forward lines:

Robertson-Hintz-Pavelski
Gurianov-Benn-Radulov
Kiviranta-Benn-Dellandrea/Damiani
Comeau-Faksa-Glendening
Raffl

Dellandrea had a bit of an up & down showing in Traverse City, but still has a chance to impress enough to make the roster out of camp. Damiani has absolutely skyrocketed up the Stars depth chart over the last year & he had a very nice Traverse City Tournament while playing almost exclusively on the wing (he's a primary Center). If either of those guys can make the roster, they are an instant upgrade over Raffl on the 3rd Line. This gives Dallas a true top-6, a 3rd line that can play well in all ends of the ice, and a 4th line specifically for defensive situations.

You forgot Seguin! I guess he is centering your 2nd line. 😀

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Sep. 23, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.

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You forgot Seguin! I guess he is centering your 2nd line. 😀

Correct. Typo on my end. My bad. Lol

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