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Tkachuk trade options

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Team: 2021-22 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 5, 2021
Published: Oct. 5, 2021
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Comment who you would want if they have to trade Brady
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 6:59 p.m.
#26
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Vladi, kostin, walman , 2nd.

No way i am trading kyrou or thomas at this point. I think blues and Ottawa would line up well in a trade as we have plenty of Right wingers.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 7:05 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 5, 2021 at 7:25 p.m.
Quoting: villenash
Thanks for the Economics 101 lesson lol

Also like stats being in quotes for some reason

But to your point, I never said how I was evaluating him -- he's a really solid player in this league and I agree that any team would take him if they could, but that doesn't mean they'll pay any price. This particular price just seems a little too rich for me.

And just because a "real" GM makes a move doesn't automatically make it a good one.


Well, this is what you said : "Brady's value is getting inflated on this site -- and he's inflating his own value through his contract demands."

You opinon seemed to be made without Economics 101 so the reminder was justified IMO. How could I possibly know if you are aware of this or not? Do I know you? I see people who have no clue about this on internet on a regular basis. Heck, there's some people who still don't understand how a virus work so...


Anyway, we can give our opinion on all this but if a trade happens it will be the GMs making the decisions, good or bad. The price of the return will be determined by Tkachuk's value on the market. A 22 y/o player with his pedigree and what teams see in him, the type of impact he could have on their team... Each team will have a price in mind that they are ready to pay so it will pretty much go to the highest bidder, but maybe not as the Sens won't want to send him in the same division

I agree, and said as such, that the Blues were giving a bit too much here but at the same time I have no idea of Brady's exact value on the actual NHL market.
Oct. 5, 2021 at 7:20 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 5, 2021 at 7:26 p.m.
Quoting: sensonfire
I think the Blues would rather give us a package with Tarasenko as the centrepiece as opposed to Kyrou + Thomas.


I can't see the sens being interested then. They will look for :

- a much younger player than Tarasenko
- a guy that has been much more healthy (and didn't miss 73% of his team's games the last 2 years)
- a guy that isn't paid 9.5 M$ this year, or if he is, who isn't a big question mark

Unless the Sens would still be getting one of Kyrou/Thomas and one of 1st/Neighbors, I don't want to make a deal with the Blues.

Quoting: Zizzle
Vladi, kostin, walman , 2nd.


No chance Ottawa would be interested in that
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Oct. 5, 2021 at 7:28 p.m.
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Quoting: NDoody
20-25 goals, 40-50 points every season (if you calculate last season to a full 82) has been 2nd in the whole league in hits two years in a row, lead the league in fights last year, is growing with size to get stronger every year and even thou he gets a bad rap, the guys love him in the room and they play better with him.
Don't think that is much over hyped.
Svechnikov, Andrei got 7.75 with almost the exact same Offensive numbers and doesn't have the physical play or D Brady does.


I thought you were explaining why Brady is crazy to ask what he wants. He 20-25/40-50 is a 2nd liner.

Svechnikov in the last two years has. 39 g and 103 pts in 123 gp. Normalized to 82 gp that's 26 goals and 69 pts

Brady 38 g and 80 pts in 127 GP
That's a similar 25 g but only 52 points. That's a massive difference.

And while Brady is a physical beast and is first in hits in the last two years with 551, svechnikov is no slouch tied for 57th with 230. The second most on Carolina.

To put there points in perspective.

Over the last two years svechnikov has 0.84 points per game.

These are the players with 0.83-0.85 ppg

Robertson, Gaudreau, Barzal, Nylander, Josi, Svech, Hedman, M tkachuk, Boeser, Debrincat

Brady has 0.63 ppg

The guys with 0.62-0.64 are
Kessel, Bailey, Smith, Kadri, Monahan, Schmaltz, Brady, Keller, Werenski, Backlund, Bunting, Pionk, and Ekblad

Compare those lists
Oct. 5, 2021 at 7:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
I can't see the sens being interested then. They will look for :

- a much younger player than Tarasenko
- a guy that has been much more healthy (and didn't miss 73% of his team's games the last 2 years)
- a guy that isn't paid 9.5 M$ this year, or if he is, who isn't a big question mark

Unless the Sens would still be getting one of Kyrou/Thomas and one of 1st/Neighbors, I don't want to make a deal with the Blues.



No chance Ottawa would be interested in that


If it's just Kyrou or Thomas going to Ottawa instead of both, that might still be more preferable instead of getting Tarasenko.



But after Kyrou or Thomas, I'd also want some combination of

1. Two firsts or

2. One first + Neighbours or Bolduc.

3. Neighbours and Bolduc but no picks.



However, the Blues would be over the cap once they sign Brady if we didn't take Tarasenko frown
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