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Only TDL move worth making

Created by: Mulicked
Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 25, 2021
Published: Oct. 25, 2021
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Need a better Shutdown RD to play with high event Nurse or in role to help spread out ice time across all our D

Holloway plays before the end of the year - 19GP 4G 6A - 10P
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  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. 2022 1st round pick (EDM)
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Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$78,612,801$669,339$1,250,000$2,887,199

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LW, C
RFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,175,000$1,175,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,600,000$5,600,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,538,462$5,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,050,000$2,050,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$850,000$850,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$785,000$785,000
G
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1

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Oct. 25, 2021 at 8:25 p.m.
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Future GM
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Lets not
Oct. 25, 2021 at 8:25 p.m.
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Ez pass by the ducks, it’s gonna cost to dump barrie
Oct. 25, 2021 at 8:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Bigboi69
Ez pass by the ducks, it’s gonna cost to dump barrie


They had the worst power play ever last year. I know they are starting this year looking better but having a really really good PP quarterback for their rebuild would be of huge value. Getting a first for a player that is likely walking in FA is a good return.
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Oct. 25, 2021 at 8:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Mulicked
They had the worst power play ever last year. I know they are starting this year looking better but having a really really good PP quarterback for their rebuild would be of huge value. Getting a first for a player that is likely walking in FA is a good return.


A 1st+ is the asking price for Manson and Barrie is ass and was carried, he’s literally a worse version of shattenkirk
Oct. 25, 2021 at 8:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Bigboi69
Ez pass by the ducks, it’s gonna cost to dump barrie

You’d pass on last year’s leading defenseman point scorer and a first for a pending UFA? Sure, Barrie isn’t the best defensively (it’s a little overblown tbh) but if he’s deployed well he can be a really valuable asset to a team. Honestly, I think you’re getting the better player in this deal, and with a first rounder to top it off it’s a no-brainer in my opinion.
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Oct. 25, 2021 at 8:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Bigboi69
Ez pass by the ducks, it’s gonna cost to dump barrie


He's terrible defensively, but it wouldn't cost to trade him let's be real. I'm sure many GMs out there would still love to have him on their team.
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Oct. 25, 2021 at 11:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Bigboi69
A 1st+ is the asking price for Manson and Barrie is ass and was carried, he’s literally a worse version of shattenkirk


I had posted an ACGM proposing a similar trade a couple hours earlier:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2864195

I saw it as:
2022 1st for Manson
2023 2nd for Barries contract based on Gostisbehere to Arizona in the summer
Oct. 26, 2021 at 1:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Bigboi69
Ez pass by the ducks, it’s gonna cost to dump barrie


I could understand the Ducks specifically not having interest as they're going to suck terribly for the majority of Barries deal but calling the reigning scoring champion among defensemen at 4.5 mil a cap dump is simply idiotic.
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:27 a.m.
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Quoting: Roysboy72
You’d pass on last year’s leading defenseman point scorer and a first for a pending UFA? Sure, Barrie isn’t the best defensively (it’s a little overblown tbh) but if he’s deployed well he can be a really valuable asset to a team. Honestly, I think you’re getting the better player in this deal, and with a first rounder to top it off it’s a no-brainer in my opinion.


nice pfp
Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:35 a.m.
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cost to dump barrie?? highest scoring dman in the league for 4.5 ??? are you dillusional ?? or you think fowler is better ....hope you enjoy last place ...tards
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 7:54 a.m.
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Quoting: Mulicked
They had the worst power play ever last year. I know they are starting this year looking better but having a really really good PP quarterback for their rebuild would be of huge value. Getting a first for a player that is likely walking in FA is a good return.


Last year was last year

This year so far ducks are 33.3% on the power play which is top 5 in the league and we got our 19 year old running it!
Oct. 26, 2021 at 8:43 a.m.
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Quoting: Roysboy72
You’d pass on last year’s leading defenseman point scorer and a first for a pending UFA? Sure, Barrie isn’t the best defensively (it’s a little overblown tbh) but if he’s deployed well he can be a really valuable asset to a team. Honestly, I think you’re getting the better player in this deal, and with a first rounder to top it off it’s a no-brainer in my opinion.


Barrie is awful defensivly and has been way worse this year than he was last, he also isn’t good offensively and gets carried by mcjesues and drai
Oct. 26, 2021 at 8:44 a.m.
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Quoting: hockeyconnor97
He's terrible defensively, but it wouldn't cost to trade him let's be real. I'm sure many GMs out there would still love to have him on their team.


Well that’s true but let’s be honest we are all smarter here than most nhl gm’s and Barrie isn’t worth close to 4.5 mil
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 8:46 a.m.
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Quoting: EddieShore
I could understand the Ducks specifically not having interest as they're going to suck terribly for the majority of Barries deal but calling the reigning scoring champion among defensemen at 4.5 mil a cap dump is simply idiotic.


He is the worst dman defensively in the league and his numbers where extremely inflated because of who he played with
Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Bigboi69
Barrie is awful defensivly and has been way worse this year than he was last, he also isn’t good offensively and gets carried by mcjesues and drai


Look at the last 3 years (only 1 in EDM) and you'll see that Barrie is a top-10 offensive defenseman. Your narrative needs some work.

This is a massive overpay be Edmonton.
Oct. 26, 2021 at 2:03 p.m.
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Quoting: rpain
I had posted an ACGM proposing a similar trade a couple hours earlier:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2864195

I saw it as:
2022 1st for Manson
2023 2nd for Barries contract based on Gostisbehere to Arizona in the summer


That's just stupid. Barrie isn't a cap dump and Manson isn't worth a 1st.
Oct. 26, 2021 at 3:01 p.m.
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That's just stupid. Barrie isn't a cap dump and Manson isn't worth a 1st.


I really hope he turns it around but Barrie has just had an awful start to the season. Out of the 5 defense that played in all 5 games, Barrie has a 5v5 xGF% of ~40%. The next lowest regular dman is 55%. The stats pass the eye test as well as it seems like he is constantly beat defensively. I take his offensive production as a grain of salt since he gets a good chunk of it in secondary assists. He does walk the line and distribute well but if he's not working it low to McD/Drai/Nuge it doesn't turn into the numbers he put up last year.

I do enjoy reading the Cult of Hockey in the journal and have notice the game grades he's gotten so far this year:
Vegas- 3
Arizona- 5
Anaheim- 3
Calgary- 4
Vancouver- 2

I can't think of another team that would willingly take that Barrie contract on without asking for an asset to go with it. When playoff time comes around, the Oilers would be better off with another RHD that plays both ends rather than a good PP QB that can't defend. In a vacuum I don't think Manson is worth a 1st but RHD always seems to be low supply high demand. I was thinking of the David Savard deadline deal in regards to compensation.
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Oct. 26, 2021 at 3:17 p.m.
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Quoting: rpain
I really hope he turns it around but Barrie has just had an awful start to the season. Out of the 5 defense that played in all 5 games, Barrie has a 5v5 xGF% of ~40%. The next lowest regular dman is 55%. The stats pass the eye test as well as it seems like he is constantly beat defensively. I take his offensive production as a grain of salt since he gets a good chunk of it in secondary assists. He does walk the line and distribute well but if he's not working it low to McD/Drai/Nuge it doesn't turn into the numbers he put up last year.

I do enjoy reading the Cult of Hockey in the journal and have notice the game grades he's gotten so far this year:
Vegas- 3
Arizona- 5
Anaheim- 3
Calgary- 4
Vancouver- 2

I can't think of another team that would willingly take that Barrie contract on without asking for an asset to go with it. When playoff time comes around, the Oilers would be better off with another RHD that plays both ends rather than a good PP QB that can't defend. In a vacuum I don't think Manson is worth a 1st but RHD always seems to be low supply high demand. I was thinking of the David Savard deadline deal in regards to compensation.


Your ENTIRE valuation of this player is based on a 5-games sample size. Ridiculous.

And Manson isn't "good in both ends" - he's decent defensively but a black hole offensively. A 3rd pairing guy in Edmonton probably, as he's 4th most used at 5v5 in Anaheim (5th all situations).
 
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