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Islanders need a shakeup and make a big trade with the Habs

Created by: neums33
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Published: Nov. 29, 2021
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The Islanders would be making 2 trades here that would shake up things a bit. I don't think either happens but i would add more to both trades if they were actually close.
First the Montreal trade is one where i actually think that Ben Chiarot is a major target for Lou Lamoriello. I really wouldn't be surprised to see him in an Islanders uniform this year. Yes he isnt a good skater and has been bad this year while also being a pending UFA. However, I dont think there is a better fit for him than a Barry Trotz system. It will help minimize his foot speed issues and he will be able to focus on defending. The price tag according to Elliote Friedman is is probably a solid prospect/young roster player, a 2nd round pick plus, or some sort of a combo of both with how his season has gone so far. Aho will be a solid bottom pair guy who brings offense. He's a great lateral skater and he beat out erik gustafsson for a roster spot this year (some of that had to do with his contract being cheaper as well). He's also very clearly the type of D the Habs are looking for and will be a cost effective asset for what he brings. I think a trade like this will happen bc it makes too much sense.
I just decided to spice it up by adding Josh Anderson. Gorton has a reputation for looking for skill over anything else, and it's why the Rangers fired him (dumb move by them bc he was doing a great job rebuilding). Their core is no longer Price, Weber, and Gallagher. It's Suzuki, Caufield and their top 10 pick this year. What they dont want to do is hold on to all these solid players with big contracts bc they will be in no mans land. You need high picks and high-end prospects to compete nowadays and i think Gorton will be solely focused on building a prospect pool full of skill. Right now it's completely barren of top prospects according to the prospect scouts and writers. So i think players like Anderson actually makes sense to move now while their value is high. Anderson has a history of injuries and inconsistency. I think it would be a very interesting idea for the Habs to entertain Oliver Wahlstrom for Anderson. Wahlstrom's goals per 60 equate him to being an easy 30 goal scorer. He was the Islanders leading goal scorer while playing the least minutes on the team. His shot is world class and a duo of him and Caufield as your top 6 RWs for years to come is a salivating thought. He doesn't have Trotz's trust rn bc his d-zone awareness and attention to detail is still inconsistent. However, he's already shown to be a great forechecker, he's been busting his butt off all year, and has a massive ceiling when fully developed. The reason the Isles would do it is bc they are in pure win now mode. Anderson is in his prime and is a very similar player to Tom Wilson who Trotz developed from a 4th liner to a 1st liner. He would be heavily used by Trotz over the next few years. I think the trade makes a lot of sense with where both organizations are at. The Isles add in a conditional 1st and 3rd based on them making the playoffs. That covers for Chiarot's return and the added value i think Anderson has over Wahlstrom rn.

The Blackhawks are in a very funny situation right now with having a coach who wants his team to focus heavily on defense while having a lineup and roster consisting of almost exclusively skilled players. They have a lot of severely underperforming players too. Dylan Strome has gotten to the point where he cant even be traded bc of his 3M dollar contract and the 3.5 qualifying offer hes entitled to this summer. Kubalik is in a similar boat with his RFA status and zero production. The 2 I put in this deal are 2 young players who arent working out and are very clearly not in the Blackhawks plans either. Nylander is buried in the AHL and producing at a meager half a point per game pace, and Borgstrom is getting 10 minutes a night while playing a role that doesnt suit him well at all. The blackhawks need bottom 6 players who play good defense and bring some size. Richard Panik has been ne of the Islanders best NHL forwards ever since he's been called up. He's been playing every game on their top line with Barzal bc Trotz is rewarding how hard he works and how physical and detailed he's been. He'd be perfect for the Hawks but not sure Lou would consider trading him with his cap hit being so small. Dal Colle is a proven defensive specialist at the NHL level analytically. Despite being a #5 overall pick and producing at the AHL level, he has brought no offense at the NHL level so far. He would, however, fit perfectly into what Derek King is looking for in his bottom 6. Big body, good skater, playable skill and very strong defensively. Bellows was the one i wasn't sure about including bc Trotz has really liked his growth this year and he beat out a lot of players for a single open roster spot. He's a power forward type with a good shot and his defense has come a long way. The issue with him is consistency. He's a really streaky scorer. But he's a player that would suit well in a middle 6 spot right now and has potential if given a real chance. Borgstrom and Nylander are obviously former top prospects who have been traded to the Blackhawks and have not worked out well. Theyre both very skilled but are not very good skaters and have issues with effort. I think both would have some potential if Trotz ever got home to them. You never know which players will become Trotz students but when players do he always is able to turn them into really solid role players for his system. They also fill a RW and C depth position that the Isles are lacking right now
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  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Chiarot, Ben
  3. 2022 6th round pick (MTL)
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  1. Aho, Sebastian
  2. Hickey, Thomas
  3. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (COL)
  5. 2023 4th round pick (NYI)
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The 2nd round pick turns into a 2022 1st and the 4th turns into a 2022 3rd if the Islanders make the playoffs
(Hickey is a pending UFA that would allow the Islanders to make this work cap-wise. so just a throw in for salary purposes)
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Nov. 29, 2021 at 4:54 p.m.
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Thats very fair. I personally love what Anderson and Chiarot bring to the table, especially in the playoffs. And im thinking strongly along the lines of how well they will fit in to the current Islanders team and system. Like Anderson isnt a star but hes better than what most teams run out with their star players nowadays (lightning excluded). He's definitely a better fit on the Isles top line than any of the RWs that Barzal has played with too


Anderson is one of the worst defensive forwards in the league and is more streaky than any top 6 F on the isles. Good lord you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Nov. 29, 2021 at 5:21 p.m.
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You obviously have no idea who you are talking about since Anderson is 27 and in his prime (not old) Chiarot is a rental and still worth a late 1st + late 3rd everyday especially since the D market has been expensive this year.


Anderson is a bottom 6 caliber forward on an albatross contract. Isles wouldn’t trade Wahlstrom for him even if MTL added their 1st.
Nov. 29, 2021 at 5:28 p.m.
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this is currently, and will remain, a major topic in the Islanders community. If you play back a game film and focus solely on Wahlstrom, most games you will come away thinking that he is very flawed and questioning his hockey IQ. the way he positions himself, decides to stickhandle, passes, etc are all major red flags. His possession numbers started off well bc he was getting carried by Pageau and Parise. His isolated stats very clearly showed that. I personally don't believe in him turning out well and i have watched a lot of games of his in college, world juniors and the AHL. He will always flash bc his shot is so elite. But i truly think he doest have the hockey IQ or mental toughness that you need in top players. We will see how his career plays out but i'm very willing to die on that hill


my personal thought is that he's probably going to turn into a middle six to maybe a stretch top line winger who can score goals, which i think is perfectly acceptable and very useful for this team. if they're moving him, move him for someone like girard or chychrun, or a top scorer. i can't think of one rn besides boeser and i think the nucks would want dobson instead, but i'm sure there's someone out there lol. anderson doesn't move the needle enough for me to be convinced to move on from wahlstrom.
Nov. 29, 2021 at 5:39 p.m.
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Wahlstrom is not being traded and Isles are not a Chiarot away from contending this year which is why you do not trade assets for him.


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this is currently, and will remain, a major topic in the Islanders community. If you play back a game film and focus solely on Wahlstrom, most games you will come away thinking that he is very flawed and questioning his hockey IQ. the way he positions himself, decides to stickhandle, passes, etc are all major red flags. His possession numbers started off well bc he was getting carried by Pageau and Parise. His isolated stats very clearly showed that. I personally dont believe in him turning out well and i have watched alot of games of his in college, world juniors and the AHL. He will always flash bc his shot is so elite. But i truly think he doest have the hockey IQ or mental toughness that you need in top players. We will see how his career plays out but i'm very willing to die on that hill


It is already safe to say you have no clue what to look for when evaluating players. Pageau has never been a great possession driver so giving him credit is hilarious. You should go check those isolated metrics again where it shows Wahlstrom is the main driver of the 3rd line.
Nov. 29, 2021 at 5:42 p.m.
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my personal thought is that he's probably going to turn into a middle six to maybe a stretch top line winger who can score goals, which i think is perfectly acceptable and very useful for this team. if they're moving him, move him for someone like girard or chychrun, or a top scorer. i can't think of one rn besides boeser and i think the nucks would want dobson instead, but i'm sure there's someone out there lol. anderson doesn't move the needle enough for me to be convinced to move on from wahlstrom.


Moving Wahlstrom for a defenseman would be a huge mistake and even Boeser isn’t much better than Wahlstrom. Their analytics have been nearly identical over the past two seasons and It looks like Pettersson inflated Boesers numbers.
Nov. 29, 2021 at 6:38 p.m.
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You are one of the most delusional people I’ve ever seen on this site. The irony that You’re talking about hockey IQ and trading for anderson who might have the worst hockey IQ among forwards in the NHL. He is the definition of an all tools no toolbox players and he’s had the impact of a 4th liner the past two seasons.

You honestly have no clue what the f*ck you are talking about. The numbers don’t lie and Wahlstroms 5v5 numbers are strong. He’s excellent defensively and a great finisher.



Hmmm August 11th... so judging on like 10 games from last year. Yea this makes a lot of sense. He somehow was even more sheltered last year than this year. Interesting you didnt post this year and how he is trending...
Nov. 29, 2021 at 6:44 p.m.
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Anderson is a bottom 6 caliber forward on an albatross contract. Isles wouldn’t trade Wahlstrom for him even if MTL added their 1st.


I took one look at your comment history and jesus christ im happy i did. there's literally zero chance you are older than 14. I just wont believe it. Calling Anderson a bottom 6 forward with an albatross contract is convincing enough that you either dont follow the NHL or are actually 12. Didnt need to click on your profile and see a comment right there that said the Islanders should fire Trotz instead of trading Wahlstrom. I actually laughed when i saw that. There honestly should be an age limit on here or they should make a separate forum for kids to spout their nonsense. Would save everyone the headache of reading things that an adult human being with a working brain would never write
Nov. 29, 2021 at 6:52 p.m.
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Hmmm August 11th... so judging on like 10 games from last year. Yea this makes a lot of sense. He somehow was even more sheltered last year than this year. Interesting you didnt post this year and how he is trending...


Hmm august 11th. Judging on his 44 games from last year. 27% percentile QOC is not being heavily sheltered .

Wahlstrom ranks 5th among forwards in GF/60 and xGF/60, 4th in xGA/60. Defensive liability though lol.

your boy josh anderson tho. The poor mans milan Lucic with negative hockey IQ. He is a replacement level forward. He has a negative impact on the rate his team scores goals , expected goals, and he’s terrible defensively. Sucks on the powerplay too!
Nov. 29, 2021 at 6:55 p.m.
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my personal thought is that he's probably going to turn into a middle six to maybe a stretch top line winger who can score goals, which i think is perfectly acceptable and very useful for this team. if they're moving him, move him for someone like girard or chychrun, or a top scorer. i can't think of one rn besides boeser and i think the nucks would want dobson instead, but i'm sure there's someone out there lol. anderson doesn't move the needle enough for me to be convinced to move on from wahlstrom.


This is very fair. I have my own way of gauging a players worth and everyone is entitled to their own opinion with theirs. I like to combine analytics, eye test, and team surroundings/situation to judge what a player would be worth on another team. I think Anderson has a very high ceiling with the Islanders and i also think people overrate wahlstrom compared to how hes viewed in league circles. Every fanbase does that with their own players to be fair. There were many Rangers fans that didnt want to include Kravtsov or Schneider in a trade for Eichel. But judging on the way outside evaluators talk about wahlstrom, i think his trade value is way less than people think bc hes very flawed under the goal scoring numbers and misleading overall analytics.
Boeser would be a great option but i dont think the Islanders would be able to match most other biddings by other teams. Chychrun is probably gonna be Arizona's captain next year and has publicly said he wants to stick through the rebuild. so they are not gonna trade him to anyone. And Girard to me is a very interesting thought but i wouldnt trade Wahlstrom for him bc that just opens up another hole. We need to have a top 6 winger that Trotz can trust to play important minutes and i think Wahlstrom gets them that this year at some point. I honestly think hes gonna be traded this year
Nov. 29, 2021 at 7:23 p.m.
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I took one look at your comment history and jesus christ im happy i did. there's literally zero chance you are older than 14. I just wont believe it. Calling Anderson a bottom 6 forward with an albatross contract is convincing enough that you either dont follow the NHL or are actually 12. Didnt need to click on your profile and see a comment right there that said the Islanders should fire Trotz instead of trading Wahlstrom. I actually laughed when i saw that. There honestly should be an age limit on here or they should make a separate forum for kids to spout their nonsense. Would save everyone the headache of reading things that an adult human being with a working brain would never write


Anderson is a blackhole at 5v5 despite playing with solid play driving forwards last season. It actually isn’t debatable , Anderson’s impact is that of a bottom 6 forward - his isolated metrics are brutal and you want to put him with Barzal? Lol. He doesn’t drive play offensively, has a negative impact on the rate his team scores goals and he sucks defensively. Anderson is what you think Wahlstrom is which makes this conversation hilarious.



Nov. 29, 2021 at 7:25 p.m.
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Hmm august 11th. Judging on his 44 games from last year. 27% percentile QOC is not being heavily sheltered .

Wahlstrom ranks 5th among forwards in GF/60 and xGF/60, 4th in xGA/60. Defensive liability though lol.

your boy josh anderson tho. The poor mans milan Lucic with negative hockey IQ. He is a replacement level forward. He has a negative impact on the rate his team scores goals , expected goals, and he’s terrible defensively. Sucks on the powerplay too!


If you were an Islanders fan (and i am a massive one) you would know which rates and analytics actually matter to the style they play. It's why they are projected to do nothing in every model but get a win or 2 away from the cup the past 2 years. Possession means little to nothing. Trotz is perfectly happy with the other team circling the outside of the Isles zone and holding onto the puck for a full minute. The eye test in those situations actually makes sense to use bc that is a very bad strategy to have analytically. How players position themselves, box out, and use their stick is everything and none of those things can be quantified into analytics. Things like that are why Leo Komarov gets placed with Barzal through an entire playoff run despite brutal analytics. Its an invaluable impact that cant be put into numbers.
Goal scoring rates are also such a heavily picked stat that doesnt really matter when given context. Trotz will use Wahlstrom in situations where they need a goal and never use him in situations where the other team needs a goal. Also, Wahlstrom takes by far the most shots on the team, an insane in amount if you actually average everyone out per 60, and he hits the net at a 50% rate. Most analytics are heavily shot and shot attempt based. His shot totals paint a false story to the impact he actually has. He plays exclusively non high leverage situations defensively and only high leverage situations offensively and that really skews his numbers. If he actually was a better player, he should have wayyyyyy more points and goals based on shot attempts alone. Every time hes on the ice, the team tries getting him the puck to shoot. Its a strategy thats been hilariously unsuccessful so far. So when the rest of their team gets back to their normal levels of play i think he's going to be off the roster, whether being sent down or traded. And i cant wait to back here to rub it in when it happens
Nov. 29, 2021 at 7:28 p.m.
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I took one look at your comment history and jesus christ im happy i did. there's literally zero chance you are older than 14. I just wont believe it. Calling Anderson a bottom 6 forward with an albatross contract is convincing enough that you either dont follow the NHL or are actually 12. Didnt need to click on your profile and see a comment right there that said the Islanders should fire Trotz instead of trading Wahlstrom. I actually laughed when i saw that. There honestly should be an age limit on here or they should make a separate forum for kids to spout their nonsense. Would save everyone the headache of reading things that an adult human being with a working brain would never write


Updated Anderson isolated metrics for this season!. -2 SD xGA/60. Perfect for Trotz system 👀. You must have gone to the Peter chiarelli school of scouting


Nov. 29, 2021 at 7:39 p.m.
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This is very fair. I have my own way of gauging a players worth and everyone is entitled to their own opinion with theirs. I like to combine analytics, eye test, and team surroundings/situation to judge what a player would be worth on another team. I think Anderson has a very high ceiling with the Islanders and i also think people overrate wahlstrom compared to how hes viewed in league circles. Every fanbase does that with their own players to be fair. There were many Rangers fans that didnt want to include Kravtsov or Schneider in a trade for Eichel. But judging on the way outside evaluators talk about wahlstrom, i think his trade value is way less than people think bc hes very flawed under the goal scoring numbers and misleading overall analytics.
Boeser would be a great option but i dont think the Islanders would be able to match most other biddings by other teams. Chychrun is probably gonna be Arizona's captain next year and has publicly said he wants to stick through the rebuild. so they are not gonna trade him to anyone. And Girard to me is a very interesting thought but i wouldnt trade Wahlstrom for him bc that just opens up another hole. We need to have a top 6 winger that Trotz can trust to play important minutes and i think Wahlstrom gets them that this year at some point. I honestly think hes gonna be traded this year


i'd be fine moving him, i just don't think anderson's the guy to target. i'm not sure who is, but anderson doesn't excite me at all.
Nov. 29, 2021 at 8:11 p.m.
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If you were an Islanders fan (and i am a massive one) you would know which rates and analytics actually matter to the style they play. It's why they are projected to do nothing in every model but get a win or 2 away from the cup the past 2 years. Possession means little to nothing. Trotz is perfectly happy with the other team circling the outside of the Isles zone and holding onto the puck for a full minute. The eye test in those situations actually makes sense to use bc that is a very bad strategy to have analytically. How players position themselves, box out, and use their stick is everything and none of those things can be quantified into analytics. Things like that are why Leo Komarov gets placed with Barzal through an entire playoff run despite brutal analytics. Its an invaluable impact that cant be put into numbers.
Goal scoring rates are also such a heavily picked stat that doesnt really matter when given context. Trotz will use Wahlstrom in situations where they need a goal and never use him in situations where the other team needs a goal. Also, Wahlstrom takes by far the most shots on the team, an insane in amount if you actually average everyone out per 60, and he hits the net at a 50% rate. Most analytics are heavily shot and shot attempt based. His shot totals paint a false story to the impact he actually has. He plays exclusively non high leverage situations defensively and only high leverage situations offensively and that really skews his numbers. If he actually was a better player, he should have wayyyyyy more points and goals based on shot attempts alone. Every time hes on the ice, the team tries getting him the puck to shoot. Its a strategy thats been hilariously unsuccessful so far. So when the rest of their team gets back to their normal levels of play i think he's going to be off the roster, whether being sent down or traded. And i cant wait to back here to rub it in when it happens


Possession isn't a good metric to properly evaluate a teams impact. It doesn't matter what team it is. Also If players are positioning themselves well and using their sticks correctly, it will show up in the analytics.

You were obviously talking out of your a** when you brought up Wahlstrom's isolated stats (which isolate for teammates , competition, zone starts etc). Your statement that playing in non high leverage defensive situations + skews his numbers is false. There are plenty of players who drive possession and take a ton of shots who have terrible analytics - for example Seth Jones. He takes a ton of shots but expected goals is what matters more so he has a high CF/60 yet he's below average in generating quality shots and preventing quality shots. So you're wrong again.

Last season Wahlstrom's isolated impact shows he was the defensive play driver on his line with an above average finishing touch. He was slightly below average at driving play offensively. There are many top 6 goal scoring forwards with this type of profile. Your evaluation of Wahlstrom is so bad lol, it's not surprising since youre the only non Habs fans that thinks Anderson a top 6 f caliber orward.

They'll never get back to their normal level of play this season. The first month of the season It was annoying to see Trotz split up P+P to accommodate a washed up Chara. He also gave Bailey (the line killer) the opportunity to drag down almost every line. Now I hope they fail. I'm looking forward to seeing guys Chara, Greene, Bailey, and the worst 4th line in hockey continue to cost the team games and realize they won't have another shot at the playoffs. They don't deserve it. Also seeing Trotz disappointed in his post game interviews is hilarious considering his TOI distribution is the main reason the team has struggled.



Nov. 30, 2021 at 1:27 a.m.
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do you follow the team? they need a top 4 D right now like they need air to breathe. Pulock is hurt for a while and Chara and Greene can barely play on the 3rd pair right now. Salo and Dobson cant be trusted yet down the stretch in high leverage games. That leaves them with Pelech and Mayfield... They will trade for one, regardless of who it is. I'm willing to bet alot of money on that.
And i have a strong personal belief that Wahlstrom won't pan out. I think he will be a 25 goal scorer who is really bad 5v5, especially in his own zone. Anderson has never had someone like Barzal and he scores close to a 30 goal pace while bringing a unique skillset thats almost impossible to find nowadays. Hes also only 27 and has a 6M AAV until hes only 33. I think its a no brainer for the Isles but im not surprised people dont agree bc Wahlstrom's shot and goal scoring numbers heavily cloud the rest of his game. I think his ceiling is Mike Hoffman, someone the Isles wont touch with a 10 foot pole


Quoting: neums33
do you follow the team? they need a top 4 D right now like they need air to breathe. Pulock is hurt for a while and Chara and Greene can barely play on the 3rd pair right now. Salo and Dobson cant be trusted yet down the stretch in high leverage games. That leaves them with Pelech and Mayfield... They will trade for one, regardless of who it is. I'm willing to bet alot of money on that.
And i have a strong personal belief that Wahlstrom won't pan out. I think he will be a 25 goal scorer who is really bad 5v5, especially in his own zone. Anderson has never had someone like Barzal and he scores close to a 30 goal pace while bringing a unique skillset thats almost impossible to find nowadays. Hes also only 27 and has a 6M AAV until hes only 33. I think its a no brainer for the Isles but im not surprised people dont agree bc Wahlstrom's shot and goal scoring numbers heavily cloud the rest of his game. I think his ceiling is Mike Hoffman, someone the Isles wont touch with a 10 foot pole


Quoting: neums33
do you follow the team? they need a top 4 D right now like they need air to breathe. Pulock is hurt for a while and Chara and Greene can barely play on the 3rd pair right now. Salo and Dobson cant be trusted yet down the stretch in high leverage games. That leaves them with Pelech and Mayfield... They will trade for one, regardless of who it is. I'm willing to bet alot of money on that.
And i have a strong personal belief that Wahlstrom won't pan out. I think he will be a 25 goal scorer who is really bad 5v5, especially in his own zone. Anderson has never had someone like Barzal and he scores close to a 30 goal pace while bringing a unique skillset thats almost impossible to find nowadays. Hes also only 27 and has a 6M AAV until hes only 33. I think its a no brainer for the Isles but im not surprised people dont agree bc Wahlstrom's shot and goal scoring numbers heavily cloud the rest of his game. I think his ceiling is Mike Hoffman, someone the Isles wont touch with a 10 foot pole


Quoting: neums33
do you follow the team? they need a top 4 D right now like they need air to breathe. Pulock is hurt for a while and Chara and Greene can barely play on the 3rd pair right now. Salo and Dobson cant be trusted yet down the stretch in high leverage games. That leaves them with Pelech and Mayfield... They will trade for one, regardless of who it is. I'm willing to bet alot of money on that.
And i have a strong personal belief that Wahlstrom won't pan out. I think he will be a 25 goal scorer who is really bad 5v5, especially in his own zone. Anderson has never had someone like Barzal and he scores close to a 30 goal pace while bringing a unique skillset thats almost impossible to find nowadays. Hes also only 27 and has a 6M AAV until hes only 33. I think its a no brainer for the Isles but im not surprised people dont agree bc Wahlstrom's shot and goal scoring numbers heavily cloud the rest of his game. I think his ceiling is Mike Hoffman, someone the Isles wont touch with a 10 foot pole


Quoting: neums33
do you follow the team? they need a top 4 D right now like they need air to breathe. Pulock is hurt for a while and Chara and Greene can barely play on the 3rd pair right now. Salo and Dobson cant be trusted yet down the stretch in high leverage games. That leaves them with Pelech and Mayfield... They will trade for one, regardless of who it is. I'm willing to bet alot of money on that.
And i have a strong personal belief that Wahlstrom won't pan out. I think he will be a 25 goal scorer who is really bad 5v5, especially in his own zone. Anderson has never had someone like Barzal and he scores close to a 30 goal pace while bringing a unique skillset thats almost impossible to find nowadays. Hes also only 27 and has a 6M AAV until hes only 33. I think its a no brainer for the Isles but im not surprised people dont agree bc Wahlstrom's shot and goal scoring numbers heavily cloud the rest of his game. I think his ceiling is Mike Hoffman, someone the Isles wont touch with a 10 foot pole


Quoting: neums33
do you follow the team? they need a top 4 D right now like they need air to breathe. Pulock is hurt for a while and Chara and Greene can barely play on the 3rd pair right now. Salo and Dobson cant be trusted yet down the stretch in high leverage games. That leaves them with Pelech and Mayfield... They will trade for one, regardless of who it is. I'm willing to bet alot of money on that.
And i have a strong personal belief that Wahlstrom won't pan out. I think he will be a 25 goal scorer who is really bad 5v5, especially in his own zone. Anderson has never had someone like Barzal and he scores close to a 30 goal pace while bringing a unique skillset thats almost impossible to find nowadays. Hes also only 27 and has a 6M AAV until hes only 33. I think its a no brainer for the Isles but im not surprised people dont agree bc Wahlstrom's shot and goal scoring numbers heavily cloud the rest of his game. I think his ceiling is Mike Hoffman, someone the Isles wont touch with a 10 foot pole


Quoting: neums33
do you follow the team? they need a top 4 D right now like they need air to breathe. Pulock is hurt for a while and Chara and Greene can barely play on the 3rd pair right now. Salo and Dobson cant be trusted yet down the stretch in high leverage games. That leaves them with Pelech and Mayfield... They will trade for one, regardless of who it is. I'm willing to bet alot of money on that.
And i have a strong personal belief that Wahlstrom won't pan out. I think he will be a 25 goal scorer who is really bad 5v5, especially in his own zone. Anderson has never had someone like Barzal and he scores close to a 30 goal pace while bringing a unique skillset thats almost impossible to find nowadays. Hes also only 27 and has a 6M AAV until hes only 33. I think its a no brainer for the Isles but im not surprised people dont agree bc Wahlstrom's shot and goal scoring numbers heavily cloud the rest of his game. I think his ceiling is Mike Hoffman, someone the Isles wont touch with a 10 foot pole


Again he is a 21 year old on a ELC. That plays on the third line on track to put up at least 24 goals. What self respecting GM would do that . If you trade for Anderson you add 5-6 million to the cap limiting you to make other moves long term. One winger is not going to propel into a playoff spot. They are going to draft a winger with the first round pick.
Buddy I have read all your comments on this thread you are a moron. You do not give any substantial data to back up your claim and refuse the address the opposition when they use analytics.
Your Agms would probably be worse than the Millbury days what a disgrace
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