GM Game Master Thread

Mar. 31, 2017 at 7:35 p.m.

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All players in the GM Game,

Just a quick note that i am shopping Nikolay Kulemin, and whoever gives me the best offer will win Nikolay Kulemin (though they'd have to give up something). I would prefer draft picks, but if you don't want to do that, you could offer a player. You don't even need to make an offer, but i really don't think he's fitting in with the islanders, so i am definitely willing to trade(/shopping) him. I will likely go with a pick/picks. This is partly for salary cap reasons, but even if there was no salary cap, i would be looking to move Nikolay Kulemin.

No guarantee i trade him, but if i get some offers, chances are i move him. Maybe a team with lots of cap space could be interested. But i'm not making a move where i give up something to get rid of his salary. I'm not doing that with any player. So any offer starting with a 4th could be good enough. Also, i am willing to trade him for another high contract. So once again, i will keep thinking about it, but i think in the end of the day, i trade him. Anyone is allowed to make an offer, though they don't need to.

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Can you have people also post their Trade blocks? I did mine already, I'll bump it now.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 7:36 p.m.

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This is my Armchair Team
Boston Bruins

LW Brad Marchand 6.125M/8y C Patrice Bergeron 6.875M/5y RW David Backes 6M/4y
LW Matt Beleskey 3.8M/3y C David Krejci 7.25M/4 y RW Jimmy Hayes 2.3M/1y
LW Frank Vatrano 792,500k/1y C Riley Nash 900K/1y

LD Zedeno Chara 4M/1y RD Brandon Carlo 789,167k/2y
LD Torrey Krug 5.25M/3y RD Adam McQuaid 2.75M/2y
LD Collin Miller 1M/1y RD Kevan Miller 2.5M/3y

G Tuukka Rask 7M/4y
G Anton Khudobin 1.2M/1y

Restricted Free Agents Qualified:
C / RW Noel Accari
D Linus Arnesson
C Austin Czarnik
G Zane McIntyre
D Joe Morrow
RW David Pastrnak
C Ryan Spooner
G Malcolm Subban

I can't edit my post to say who's on my block but its:
RW Jimmy Hayes
LW Matt Beleskey
One Of D Adam McQuaid / Kevan Miller (If neither is selected in expansion draft)
D Linus Arnesson
G Malcolm Subban
D Joe Morrow
G Anton Khudobin

Those are the guys who are on my block to be traded. Other guys can be traded, but will take a really good asset to get.

Bumping this so people can tell who I'm looking to trade.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 7:36 p.m.

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An example of this type of thing would be if Washington's GM was like " We sign Kuznetsov to a 7year 5.5 Million Dollar Deal" I see Kuznetsov as a 6+ Million guy, but I wouldn't complain because it's close and a good GM could perhaps talk the player down half a million dollars. If Washington's GM was like "we sign Kuznetsov to a 7year 4.5 Million dollar deal" I'd be like "come on now" and complain because it's blatantly low.

Well, i think for RFAs we'd maybe have to have me and maybe another person agree to it. So yeah, if someone tries to do something more realistic (because salaries in the NHL are unrealistic), we wouldn't let them. So yeah, if a minnesota GM tries to sign Granlund for 800K a year, they wouldn't be allowed to, and we would ask to give him at least 5.5mil a year/6mil a year/etc.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 7:38 p.m.

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All players in the GM Game,

Just a quick note that i am shopping Nikolay Kulemin, and whoever gives me the best offer will win Nikolay Kulemin (though they'd have to give up something). I would prefer draft picks, but if you don't want to do that, you could offer a player. You don't even need to make an offer, but i really don't think he's fitting in with the islanders, so i am definitely willing to trade(/shopping) him. I will likely go with a pick/picks. This is partly for salary cap reasons, but even if there was no salary cap, i would be looking to move Nikolay Kulemin.

No guarantee i trade him, but if i get some offers, chances are i move him. Maybe a team with lots of cap space could be interested. But i'm not making a move where i give up something to get rid of his salary. I'm not doing that with any player. So any offer starting with a 4th could be good enough. Also, i am willing to trade him for another high contract. So once again, i will keep thinking about it, but i think in the end of the day, i trade him. Anyone is allowed to make an offer, though they don't need to.

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Can you have people also post their Trade blocks? I did mine already, I'll bump it now.

I think if someone wants to they can but they don't need to.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 7:41 p.m.

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Can you have people also post their Trade blocks? I did mine already, I'll bump it now.

I think if someone wants to they can but they don't need to.

Exactly, It's not mandatory, but it would facilitate conversation in the thread here while we wait for others to join. If anyone wants to post who they WANT to trade I think it would be a good idea.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 7:46 p.m.

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I agree with you, but we also have to make sure nobody complains for the sake of sabotaging other teams. Not sure how we'd do that, but I also don't think anyone would.

At the end of the day RangersandIslesfan will have to have the final call. But if someone just goes around saying everyones signings are unfair just to say it and sabotage, then I think they should be removed from the game without warning. I think if we have 5 legit complaints, then the person who made the signing gets to make a case for why its legit and if they can't persuade us then they just up the offer for their second and final chance.

I like that idea.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 7:48 p.m.

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I was talking about UFA signing rights.

At that point I think it's gonna have to be scrutinized by you, the Moderator of this. I'm fine with someone trading for UFA rights and signing if they offer a fair amount. Example: If someone trades for Oshie and offers him 6.5 or more per year for 7 or 8 years i think its fair, but if someone trades for Oshies rights they don't automatically get to sign him to a lowball offer or that will ruin the game.

Yeah, i think if contract rights get traded, they can maybe sign the player as long as we agree that it's allowed for that amount of money (example: WSH trades Oshie rights to any team, and that team re-signs him for 2mil a year, we say no, it needs to be higher, but if they try to sign him for 6.5mil a year/7mil a year/etc, we say, yes you can do that). Also, maybe we can let GMs re-sign players if they make a huge offer (example: if WSH tried to re-sign Oshie for 8.5mil a year, we let them get away with it, as it's very unlikely anyone else is willing to do that).

Also, on UFA day, let's make offers for players, and any other GMs can offer more or say no. Or maybe we could add some players and ask teams if they're interested in signing the player, and if they are, we could play where one person makes an offer, and then another (if they are willing to offer more), and on and on until the player is signed.

Example on the last thing i said: Let's say Oshie makes it to free agent day without re-signing. Different GMs could decide if they want to try to sign him. So let's say NYI, CAR, DAL, CGY, and Vegas all decide they want Oshie. Let's say Vegas offers 4mil a year to start, then maybe the isles could maybe then offer 5mil a year, then carolina offers 5.5mil, dallas offers 6mil, Calgary offers 6.5mil, Vegas offers 6.75mil, NYI offers 7mil, Carolina says this is getting too high, Dallas offer 7.25mil, Calgary offers 7.5mil Vegas passes. So not it would be down to the isles, the stars, and the flames. So let's say NYI says they don't want to do it. Then Dallas offers 7.75mil a year, and then Calgary says no. Then Dallas signs Oshie for 7.75 million a year. The only problem here is how to decide how many years the player gets.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 7:48 p.m.

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I think if someone wants to they can but they don't need to.

Exactly, It's not mandatory, but it would facilitate conversation in the thread here while we wait for others to join. If anyone wants to post who they WANT to trade I think it would be a good idea.

Yeah, let's do that.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 7:53 p.m.

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At that point I think it's gonna have to be scrutinized by you, the Moderator of this. I'm fine with someone trading for UFA rights and signing if they offer a fair amount. Example: If someone trades for Oshie and offers him 6.5 or more per year for 7 or 8 years i think its fair, but if someone trades for Oshies rights they don't automatically get to sign him to a lowball offer or that will ruin the game.

Yeah, i think if contract rights get traded, they can maybe sign the player as long as we agree that it's allowed for that amount of money (example: WSH trades Oshie rights to any team, and that team re-signs him for 2mil a year, we say no, it needs to be higher, but if they try to sign him for 6.5mil a year/7mil a year/etc, we say, yes you can do that). Also, maybe we can let GMs re-sign players if they make a huge offer (example: if WSH tried to re-sign Oshie for 8.5mil a year, we let them get away with it, as it's very unlikely anyone else is willing to do that).

Also, on UFA day, let's make offers for players, and any other GMs can offer more or say no. Or maybe we could add some players and ask teams if they're interested in signing the player, and if they are, we could play where one person makes an offer, and then another (if they are willing to offer more), and on and on until the player is signed.

Example on the last thing i said: Let's say Oshie makes it to free agent day without re-signing. Different GMs could decide if they want to try to sign him. So let's say NYI, CAR, DAL, CGY, and Vegas all decide they want Oshie. Let's say Vegas offers 4mil a year to start, then maybe the isles could maybe then offer 5mil a year, then carolina offers 5.5mil, dallas offers 6mil, Calgary offers 6.5mil, Vegas offers 6.75mil, NYI offers 7mil, Carolina says this is getting too high, Dallas offer 7.25mil, Calgary offers 7.5mil Vegas passes. So not it would be down to the isles, the stars, and the flames. So let's say NYI says they don't want to do it. Then Dallas offers 7.75mil a year, and then Calgary says no. Then Dallas signs Oshie for 7.75 million a year. The only problem here is how to decide how many years the player gets.

I think it should go by total value. Like if you offer 8Million for 4 Years and someone else offers 7Million for 6 years, they get the player because all players want term especially when they hit 30 years old. They want the biggest contract they can get and usually that is the one for more years. In some cases they'd take the shorter deal, like if you offered 10 Million for 4 years and someone else offered 7 Million for 6 years. I think the player would take the 10 million.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 7:55 p.m.

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Yeah, i think if contract rights get traded, they can maybe sign the player as long as we agree that it's allowed for that amount of money (example: WSH trades Oshie rights to any team, and that team re-signs him for 2mil a year, we say no, it needs to be higher, but if they try to sign him for 6.5mil a year/7mil a year/etc, we say, yes you can do that). Also, maybe we can let GMs re-sign players if they make a huge offer (example: if WSH tried to re-sign Oshie for 8.5mil a year, we let them get away with it, as it's very unlikely anyone else is willing to do that).

Also, on UFA day, let's make offers for players, and any other GMs can offer more or say no. Or maybe we could add some players and ask teams if they're interested in signing the player, and if they are, we could play where one person makes an offer, and then another (if they are willing to offer more), and on and on until the player is signed.

Example on the last thing i said: Let's say Oshie makes it to free agent day without re-signing. Different GMs could decide if they want to try to sign him. So let's say NYI, CAR, DAL, CGY, and Vegas all decide they want Oshie. Let's say Vegas offers 4mil a year to start, then maybe the isles could maybe then offer 5mil a year, then carolina offers 5.5mil, dallas offers 6mil, Calgary offers 6.5mil, Vegas offers 6.75mil, NYI offers 7mil, Carolina says this is getting too high, Dallas offer 7.25mil, Calgary offers 7.5mil Vegas passes. So not it would be down to the isles, the stars, and the flames. So let's say NYI says they don't want to do it. Then Dallas offers 7.75mil a year, and then Calgary says no. Then Dallas signs Oshie for 7.75 million a year. The only problem here is how to decide how many years the player gets.

I think it should go by total value. Like if you offer 8Million for 4 Years and someone else offers 7Million for 6 years, they get the player because all players want term especially when they hit 30 years old. They want the biggest contract they can get and usually that is the one for more years. In some cases they'd take the shorter deal, like if you offered 10 Million for 4 years and someone else offered 7 Million for 6 years. I think the player would take the 10 million.

At the end of the day when we come up with all the rules you'll need to make a post with all of them and you need to give yourself final decision on things. That way it will be fair because you won't be biased in any direction.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 7:58 p.m.

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Yeah, i think if contract rights get traded, they can maybe sign the player as long as we agree that it's allowed for that amount of money (example: WSH trades Oshie rights to any team, and that team re-signs him for 2mil a year, we say no, it needs to be higher, but if they try to sign him for 6.5mil a year/7mil a year/etc, we say, yes you can do that). Also, maybe we can let GMs re-sign players if they make a huge offer (example: if WSH tried to re-sign Oshie for 8.5mil a year, we let them get away with it, as it's very unlikely anyone else is willing to do that).

Also, on UFA day, let's make offers for players, and any other GMs can offer more or say no. Or maybe we could add some players and ask teams if they're interested in signing the player, and if they are, we could play where one person makes an offer, and then another (if they are willing to offer more), and on and on until the player is signed.

Example on the last thing i said: Let's say Oshie makes it to free agent day without re-signing. Different GMs could decide if they want to try to sign him. So let's say NYI, CAR, DAL, CGY, and Vegas all decide they want Oshie. Let's say Vegas offers 4mil a year to start, then maybe the isles could maybe then offer 5mil a year, then carolina offers 5.5mil, dallas offers 6mil, Calgary offers 6.5mil, Vegas offers 6.75mil, NYI offers 7mil, Carolina says this is getting too high, Dallas offer 7.25mil, Calgary offers 7.5mil Vegas passes. So not it would be down to the isles, the stars, and the flames. So let's say NYI says they don't want to do it. Then Dallas offers 7.75mil a year, and then Calgary says no. Then Dallas signs Oshie for 7.75 million a year. The only problem here is how to decide how many years the player gets.

I think it should go by total value. Like if you offer 8Million for 4 Years and someone else offers 7Million for 6 years, they get the player because all players want term especially when they hit 30 years old. They want the biggest contract they can get and usually that is the one for more years. In some cases they'd take the shorter deal, like if you offered 10 Million for 4 years and someone else offered 7 Million for 6 years. I think the player would take the 10 million.

Yeah, i think it would get kind of confusing though. Because it would be pretty even between 5mil for 5 years and 4mil for 6 years for example. Maybe we could try to agree on how long the player should sign for and then everyone could offer an amount of money. Not sure that would work though. However if we're talking about someone like Jagr or Markov who will almost definitely get 1 year exactly if they sign anywhere, i think it would work for those guys. However, with someone like Oshie, it would be harder because some maybe think he should get 6 years, some say 7. But if maybe only two people really think they have an idea, and one says 7 and the other says 5, we could always go with 6. But this is just an idea. Not sure how well it would work.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 7:59 p.m.

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I think it should go by total value. Like if you offer 8Million for 4 Years and someone else offers 7Million for 6 years, they get the player because all players want term especially when they hit 30 years old. They want the biggest contract they can get and usually that is the one for more years. In some cases they'd take the shorter deal, like if you offered 10 Million for 4 years and someone else offered 7 Million for 6 years. I think the player would take the 10 million.

At the end of the day when we come up with all the rules you'll need to make a post with all of them and you need to give yourself final decision on things. That way it will be fair because you won't be biased in any direction.

Yeah, i guess you're right. I still want to listen to what others have to say though before i officially make the rules. We don't have that many GMs yet though, so this is a good time to talk about what the rules could be.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 8:03 p.m.

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I think it should go by total value. Like if you offer 8Million for 4 Years and someone else offers 7Million for 6 years, they get the player because all players want term especially when they hit 30 years old. They want the biggest contract they can get and usually that is the one for more years. In some cases they'd take the shorter deal, like if you offered 10 Million for 4 years and someone else offered 7 Million for 6 years. I think the player would take the 10 million.

Yeah, i think it would get kind of confusing though. Because it would be pretty even between 5mil for 5 years and 4mil for 6 years for example. Maybe we could try to agree on how long the player should sign for and then everyone could offer an amount of money. Not sure that would work though. However if we're talking about someone like Jagr or Markov who will almost definitely get 1 year exactly if they sign anywhere, i think it would work for those guys. However, with someone like Oshie, it would be harder because some maybe think he should get 6 years, some say 7. But if maybe only two people really think they have an idea, and one says 7 and the other says 5, we could always go with 6. But this is just an idea. Not sure how well it would work.

I would say anyone under 30 could take a bigger number for less years, while people over 30 want the highest total value so if someone offers a 30 year old 7 years at 5 million they'll take that over 6 years 5.5 million because they would earn 35million from the 7 year deal and only 33million from the 6 year one and then they'd be 36 years old so they'd probably make less than 2million on a 1 year deal because of age. Most 36 year olds don't get big value contracts, guys like Jagr are one in a thousand.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 8:04 p.m.

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Yeah, i think it would get kind of confusing though. Because it would be pretty even between 5mil for 5 years and 4mil for 6 years for example. Maybe we could try to agree on how long the player should sign for and then everyone could offer an amount of money. Not sure that would work though. However if we're talking about someone like Jagr or Markov who will almost definitely get 1 year exactly if they sign anywhere, i think it would work for those guys. However, with someone like Oshie, it would be harder because some maybe think he should get 6 years, some say 7. But if maybe only two people really think they have an idea, and one says 7 and the other says 5, we could always go with 6. But this is just an idea. Not sure how well it would work.

I would say anyone under 30 could take a bigger number for less years, while people over 30 want the highest total value so if someone offers a 30 year old 7 years at 5 million they'll take that over 6 years 5.5 million because they would earn 35million from the 7 year deal and only 33million from the 6 year one and then they'd be 36 years old so they'd probably make less than 2million on a 1 year deal because of age. Most 36 year olds don't get big value contracts, guys like Jagr are one in a thousand.

But with guys like Jagr, i think we should just say he gets 1 year (as he's 45 years old), and people can offer money.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 8:05 p.m.

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At the end of the day when we come up with all the rules you'll need to make a post with all of them and you need to give yourself final decision on things. That way it will be fair because you won't be biased in any direction.

Yeah, i guess you're right. I still want to listen to what others have to say though before i officially make the rules. We don't have that many GMs yet though, so this is a good time to talk about what the rules could be.

I thought we had about a 3rd of what we needed. We've got about 10 or so and we only need 31. It's going well so far and it'll only get more popular.

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I thought we had about a 3rd of what we needed. We've got about 10 or so and we only need 31. It's going well so far and it'll only get more popular.

We have 9 of 31, so almost a 3rd. But still not that many.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 8:06 p.m.

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I would say anyone under 30 could take a bigger number for less years, while people over 30 want the highest total value so if someone offers a 30 year old 7 years at 5 million they'll take that over 6 years 5.5 million because they would earn 35million from the 7 year deal and only 33million from the 6 year one and then they'd be 36 years old so they'd probably make less than 2million on a 1 year deal because of age. Most 36 year olds don't get big value contracts, guys like Jagr are one in a thousand.

But with guys like Jagr, i think we should just say he gets 1 year (as he's 45 years old), and people can offer money.

Yeah totally, I don't think anyone would give Jagr a 2 year deal, but you have to make sure all 31 GM's agree. If someone wants to give him 2 years at a fair price I say we give him to them, if he does bad it's their problem.

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But with guys like Jagr, i think we should just say he gets 1 year (as he's 45 years old), and people can offer money.

Yeah totally, I don't think anyone would give Jagr a 2 year deal, but you have to make sure all 31 GM's agree. If someone wants to give him 2 years at a fair price I say we give him to them, if he does bad it's their problem.

Yeah, maybe, but i'm sure nobody will. I really think that maybe we should just come up with a length for different UFAs. But if you really don't want to that's fine. It's just what i think would work. But if you really don't want to we can find another way.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 8:15 p.m.

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Yeah totally, I don't think anyone would give Jagr a 2 year deal, but you have to make sure all 31 GM's agree. If someone wants to give him 2 years at a fair price I say we give him to them, if he does bad it's their problem.

Yeah, maybe, but i'm sure nobody will. I really think that maybe we should just come up with a length for different UFAs. But if you really don't want to that's fine. It's just what i think would work. But if you really don't want to we can find another way.

That sounds legit if you come up with the length yourself. Then we'd only have to gauge the value instead of the term. It'd be way easier that way. It might scare some people off though.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 8:16 p.m.

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Yeah, maybe, but i'm sure nobody will. I really think that maybe we should just come up with a length for different UFAs. But if you really don't want to that's fine. It's just what i think would work. But if you really don't want to we can find another way.

That sounds legit if you come up with the length yourself. Then we'd only have to gauge the value instead of the term. It'd be way easier that way. It might scare some people off though.

Basically what I mean is that if you assign Oshie a 7 year deal because he's the #1 Forward and only 30 it may scare off some people because they don't want to pay 37 year old Oshie 6+ million.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 8:18 p.m.

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That sounds legit if you come up with the length yourself. Then we'd only have to gauge the value instead of the term. It'd be way easier that way. It might scare some people off though.

Basically what I mean is that if you assign Oshie a 7 year deal because he's the #1 Forward and only 30 it may scare off some people because they don't want to pay 37 year old Oshie 6+ million.

if you always air on the shorter side I think it will work, because people will be like "atleast I don't have to pay him forever." Like Oshie and Shattenkirk for 6 years then Hanzal, Bonino, Alzner and whoever else at 5 years, I think that would lead to a lot of bids and interaction which would be fun.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 8:21 p.m.

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I believe we should make the minimum raise 250k for bidding on a ufa. I really don't want to see people be like "i'll pay 5Million" and then have someone say "I;ll give him 5.005 Million" that'd be a raise of 5 thousand but it'd be annoying to just see all those bids. I strongly feel 250k should be the absolute minimum you can bid when going for a UFA.

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Yeah, maybe, but i'm sure nobody will. I really think that maybe we should just come up with a length for different UFAs. But if you really don't want to that's fine. It's just what i think would work. But if you really don't want to we can find another way.

That sounds legit if you come up with the length yourself. Then we'd only have to gauge the value instead of the term. It'd be way easier that way. It might scare some people off though.

Yeah, you're right. some people might not want to play then. I didn't think of that. But we might need to do that as it's hard to decide which one the player would take (more money or longer contract). Maybe we should wait and see if others are willing to play that way or not.

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That sounds legit if you come up with the length yourself. Then we'd only have to gauge the value instead of the term. It'd be way easier that way. It might scare some people off though.

Basically what I mean is that if you assign Oshie a 7 year deal because he's the #1 Forward and only 30 it may scare off some people because they don't want to pay 37 year old Oshie 6+ million.

Yeah, you're right. But as i said, different people could decide whether they are interested in signing him or not. We could maybe try doing it where every million dollars is like every year, so if someone offered him 7 years and 6mil a year, that would count as 13, so he'd take that over 7mil a year for 5 years (12). But what if someone did 6.5mil a year? So probably not like that. As i said, we should probably just wait and see what others think. Also, if we do it this way, we could always make an Oshie contract 5 years, but i'm not sure.

Mar. 31, 2017 at 8:30 p.m.

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We could also do a draft lottery and an entry draft, unless it's too complicated.

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