Why would the Rangers make that LA deal?

Not sure what LAK FO or their fans' assessment of Kupari and Kaliyev is...but on paper that trade does seem to address both team's needs. I have been slow to give up on Chytl...but as time goes by he does seem more cut out for the wing than C (not sure why he's not moved to wing here). With the C's LA has- can really see him blossoming into a force out there.

I guess dependent upon the CAP effects of Eichel's and others' return- the VGN trade does help both teams now- and VGN might even have some futures value in Hajek and the pick.

The Pav trade...not looking to re-litigate this with you- just putting it out there in case someone else cares to chime in: I just can't get there...the most I'd give for a pure rental is what we got for Zuc: a 2nd and a 3rd...maybe add one of the prospects who may project to an NHL future- but is buried in the NYR prospect chart. I'm sorry- but the 1st you are looking to move should be a mid to upper 20's pick in a DEEP draft...should they keep the pick- the player they pick might just be a stud -who enables them to make a difficult decision or two over the next few years when they hit CAP hell.

I’ve got to disagree from the Kings perspective. The kings have been defensively sound with Edler and Walker out of the lineup, what they need badly is goal scoring. None of the assets they are getting addresses that. And losing two potential scoring prospects seems like a move in the wrong direction.

If you don’t believe Chytl can turn a corner with the Kings and/or you don’t believe in the potential Miller has…then this deal is not for you.

From the NYR perspective I’m not certain what Kupari or Kaliyev would bring here- but in theory it does seem the Rangers would be dealing players from a position of strength to fulfill needs going forward. Seems LA would be doing the same- but if you don’t think so, fair enough.

I’m not sure the Rangers are dealing from a position of strength, they need top-6 center prospects and the Kings have plenty. What the Kings need is goal scoring wingers, but I don’t see the Rangers giving those up.

It’s not that I don’t think those players are good. It’s more that Kupari is younger and has a similar stat line to Chytl for the season, Kupari’s stock is rising while Chytil’s is falling. The Kings need goal scoring, and Kaliyev is the Kings only graduate pure goal scorer at this time.

Miller would be a great LD to bolster our top-4, but that isn’t an area of concern as much as goal scoring. Which is the Kings primary need at this point.

Well, whenever discussing stuff with Kings people, theyre one major concern is LD. If you ask me, you guys have a ton of offensively gifted players in and on the rise in the organization. I personally think the Danault contract was a huge mistake as he will be the most expensive 3C in the league once Turcotte gets some more time in his legs. I think you just happen to be a bit snake bitten with so many young kids adjusting, hell, the entire bottom-6 are kids. Also, some consistent goaltending wouldnt hurt either for you guys.

The Kaliyev part of the trade I wasnt really sure (or all that serious) about, but I feel a trade of Kupari for Miller works for both teams. Kupari is only playing 11 mins a game which isnt much if youre trying to get scoring from him. Kaliyev, who is a more natural winger would move up to the 3rd line with Turcotte putting him into a position to succeed (Im basing this from what Im seeing on website for line combos). Then in return you get a LD in Miller who can grind out 20+ minutes a game.

For one, gotta remember the level of player were talking about when comparing Pavelski and Zucc. Pavelski is still one of the best, most consistent, all around players in the league. Zucc was never that. You gotta assume that if the Rangers can land Pavelski, the expectation would be a deep run which would mean one of the last few picks of the 1st round.

The one thing I have been saying though when it comes to being buyers at the deadline is that we should not, under any circumstances, be getting into any bidding wars. Its not that serious. Do I think we are that close to a cup run... maybe? with the right pieces? I think if we can get into the ECF then "any given sunday". Im not out here ready to mortgage the next 5 years on 1 year, however we should definitely try to take advantage of the situation were in.

You also have to consider that when DAL and NYR made that deal, DAL extending ZUC was a possibility. Extending Pav is a virtual zero % possibility...additionally, the way Zuc got hurt right away was a clear illustration why it's not a good idea to trade premium assets for 1 cup run. I like the trades you put together (except this one), and agree with your assessment that they should try to take advantage of the situation they are in....but for me, their 2022 1st is off the table unless it's part of a deal getting the likes of Turcotte, Perfetti, Newhook, etc. But I'm all in on taking advantage of their current CAP situation for this year...I'm sure there is a deal or two out there for Drury to find which can dramatically improve their playoff run this year, while keeping their 2022 1st as well as at least 1 of their 2nds.

I cant imagine LA trading Turcotte, it would have to be a massive over payment.
With the cap situation the Avs are in, I cant imagine them being able to afford to resign Kadri meaning Newhook would likely be the next man up.
The Jets will be an interesting situation to watch because they need to figure out what theyre gonna do with PLD and Copp. Perfetti could be one player I might bend on trading Schneider.

I think that used to be the case before the spring back of the Kings defensive corps this season, drafting Clarke, and the graduation of Sean Durzi in light of the injuries to both Walker and Edler has proven that the Kings primary issue is goal scoring, stats will support this. I agree on the goaltending but Quicks resurgence lessens that issue for this year and the next.

Danault however, fits the Kings as a defense first player similar to Kopitar but less ability scoring wise. Byfield and Turcotte might jump him, but he’ll be important once the Kopitar contract ends or he declines. Kupari or Vilardi for Miller might work when all is said and done, but unsure getting that top LD is as much of major priority as it was for Rob Blake last season.

I think the Rangers really missed the boat on making trade and fixing some holes last offseason. They brought in that grit which has clearly made a huge difference but havent addressed their desperate need for centers. With every game Chytil’s value declines further and further.