I never said I wanted Schneider, I said he’s good and would become a solid dman. I just was laughing at your logic behind why he’s untouchable. It doesn’t make any sense. It’s not like the rangers will only have tough guys in 2-3 years. Just like the jets won’t have only small dman in 2-3 years. Every team has different wants and needs at different times and it’s always changing. I’m sure like many rangers fans have said, he’s not untouchable just would need to really blow drurys socks off.

Yeah and with Trouba, Fox there long term plus NilsL idk why there's such a hangup on moving Schneider by Rangers fans.

Really think a Scheifele for Schneider+ makes a lot more sense for NY though and that + whatever it'd be would have to be really damn good to trade Scheifele for even if 55 isn't the best defensively.

I don't think Heinola is on the same value scale as Schneider but I could just be a bit biased there. I like Heinola but I feel Schneider style way more.

I'd do Copp for a 1st but that's about all I got.

Obviously you didn't understand what I wrote. Its not just size and physicality, it is also about leadership qualities (captain of his team) and low cost for years the Rangers will be up against the cap. Schnieder checks ALL 4 boxes and kids like Ludquist and Zac Jones don't. Reading is fundamental.

I get the other part, but you also have many other players that share the other characteristics you mentioned. Plus isn’t there a bit of a log jam at RD? Fox, Trouba? They’re both better than schneider will be so I don’t get the hang up on moving him. It’s not like he’s the end all be all of the rangers franchise.

None of those 3 teams consider those trades

Heinola is much better offensively, definitely mote gifted. Schneider has the right handed advantage, size and physicality. Comes down to team need, I just didn’t think Rangers needed more of that with trouba doing most of the work with some tough guys up front. Didn’t know he was untouchable like @delneggs claims

The Rangers don't have that may physical players and they have several very soft players, so additional grit is not a bad thing. Plus, size for a defenseman is increasing important the way the league is going, so if Schneider is as good as advertised, then they would trade Nils Lundquist before trading Schneider, because Lundquist can't clear the front of the net. They already have Fox to run the PP, so Lundquist is the more expendable of the two. They also have Zac Jones on the left side that can run a PP, and he isn't very big either, so having a pair of Jones and Schneider (which is what they do in Hartford) makes a lot of sense in the next year to two. That gives them Lindgren/Fox, Miller/Trouba and Jones/Schneider.

Think they need to start at least having the conversation of moving scheifele. Time is ticking and scheifele is going to ask for a ton on his next deal.

What would your ideal + be for scheif from NY? Or what would you want any package to be from any team

Just agree to disagree at this point

I'm pretty sure I know more about the Rangers than you do, but you can think what you want.

Schneider and a 1st at least I'm thinking, I mean if the Rangers add Scheifele to what they already have they instantly become major contenders, guess maybe Schneider, 2nd and Kravtsov would be alright too.

Idk, haven't really given much thought on what he's worth or what I'd want in return from other teams, can just see where Scheifele would fit perfectly on the Rangers.

I'm pretty much at the 'its time for a core change' with the Jets and Scheifele is one of the core pieces to move, he should get some good pieces in return and his next contract will probably be bad so move the asset before it gets to that point.

Never said I knew more

He's not, It'd take a Dubois-esque piece to make a Schneider deal possible. You just don't move players like him for no reason.