Lol love when people don't understand how trades have worked for all of time. You give up good pieces to get more immediate good players to win. Winning is the entire purpose of the game.

Aka "I usually believe Seevalli but because I don't like this rumour I do not believe it."

If you think Frank is a mouth piece for anyone then I have no interest arguing this with you any further.

He's literally the guy who announced the whole Seattle team hours before it was released.

I get this isn't the news you want to hear, but it is what's being discussed. It doesn't mean all those pieces will be used in a Miller trade, but as it's been reported by many other outlets (Satiar Shah, Lebrun, Brooks, etc) that the 2022 1st and Schneider picks have been discussed and declined at the moment by VAN.

This from the person who refuses to recognize how accruing cap space works. The irony.

@TheAlien @Juiceman @BubbleDemko need you guys in here too

This from someone who lies about his post? I only talk with folks that are honest in their thought, so I won't have to read more of your BS. Mediumyeet. No, you are a long way to even reach mediocre on the human evolutionary scale.
Good bye.

I never said anywhere that it did or did not include a 50% retention. If anything I've been pretty clear that the trade above is just a picture of the assets that could go both ways ("Please note that it obviously won't be all these assets going one way. Just wanted to note all the piece that Frank said are potentially in play" - from my description).

I put in both scenarios in that past comment because apparently you need to be spoon-fed all the information like a child.

Does someone have a link to what Satiar Shah said?

Here you go, it was on his radio hit with Dave Pagnota yesterday

https://twitter.com/Sportsnet650/status/1491218116340502528?s=20&t=_1FpN3aINtPsQGJfFg8r9g

Oh yes, I was under the assumption that trades only benefit my team /s

Of course you give up equal/significant value when you make a trade. But let me help interpret this from your POV - if Vancouver was a playoff contender that was considered a long shot to actually win the cup this year, and say, St. Louis was not, would you be willing to part ways with Podkolzin for Ryan O'Reilly (who is signed through the rest of this season and next)? Coupled with the fact that VAN's second line center needed a big raise next year. I don't think so.



You were so excited to patronize me that you missed my point. Or chose to ignore it. Either way, I'll restate it for you - a mix of intel and speculation. A stand-up guy like Seravalli wouldn't just put something out for the hell of it. But the intel here is that the Rangers are interested in Miller. The speculation is who could - as he said, "potentially" - be in play. You think someone from the Rangers organization sent their whole trade block to Frank Seravalli, showing all their cards for VAN to exploit? No.

Remember when Buffalo was panicking and fabricated that Treliving was willing to trade Tkachuk for Eichel and fed the story to Kevin Weekes? And Treliving confirmed that it was not true and was incensed that someone would make something up like that? The only GM I think would be stupid enough to do that is Peter Chiarelli. Nobody does that.

So Seravalli obviously is speculating what COULD be potential returns from NYR. That's so obvious it hurts.

Lmao where did I lie about a post?

You just choose to ignore when someone brings up a valid point because you can't just accept that you could learn something new from someone.

I don't understand why Rangers are such a long shot this year and getting Miller especially if there is salary retention doesn't mean Strome has to go.

For your scenario that you suggested from a Canucks perspective yes I would move podkolzin in a heartbeat for O'Reilly IF my 4 best forwards were all 28 + yrs old, I had a Norris dman and solid dcore around him, Vezina goalie, and the cap was becoming more and more difficult to navigate in the coming years with guys needing raises.

In that situation yes I'd move pod + + to get O'Reilly.

Personally - and I am a Rangers fan - I think they're a long shot. Kakko and Lafreniere are just getting going and they're a third of our top 6. K'Andre Miller and Braden Schneider need more time to get rolling.

I don't think they should be dealing top prospects and young players just yet, but that's just me. A couple picks for 1 year rentals like Smith and Stastny would be fine, but not core young pieces for guys we'll have to deal in the summer for lack of cap space.

So I guess this how you start a war

Pretty much