Barabonov could probably be had for a second and a third, so not super expensive.

interesting before arguing or discussing value i got 3 questions

1. Can he play right wing and left wing or just left wing?

2. How good is he defensively?

3. is he physical and not shy getting into board battles and does he have a strong work ethic?

Realistically looking at his point production and considering san jose isn't the strongest team i wouldn't be against a 2nd+3rd for him if picks are in different years

Barabonov isn’t the best option, the biggest thing with him is he is cheap, very cheap especially for a guy who has been playing top 6 minutes/against top 6 players all year. Granted he has been playing with hertl and Meier all year so that helps him.

And I know he’s been playing almost all LW but I believe he can play RW, how effective he is at it I’m unsure of.

Defensively he’s nothing special, I would say average but definitely not a huge liability either, and honestly playing with berg and even march makes me not concerned about this as much.

Physical not really, he’s small, so not going to see any big hits from him or pushing people around, but as far as battles he holds his own

And work ethic I think is good, sometimes he seems soft on passes which bothers me but it’s not a everytime thing. But other then that his speed and puck control are his biggest strengths. He’s got good hockey IQ, makes himself open and available. Works around the puck well,And also the best thing I think he does right ALL the time is getting to the net. He seems to always be there, either following up to the net or rushing net on the offside looking for cross pass or looking for rebounds and deflections in front (which for being small doesn’t seem like that would be his strong spot but it is)

Again this is all dependent on his RW ability which I would honestly have to go ask sharks fans about. But as far as price and being able to play up in the line up he’s one of the best options, although his NHL sample size is small. But being that SJ didn’t give up much for him, he’s cheap and a UFA at the end of the season who is probably going to get a raise (seen some fans speculation 3m x 3y) ,don’t know how accurate that is nor do I really care, he should be cheaper to acquire.

alot of yuck up there, compher barely outscoring debrusk pace wise, barabanov is playing top line with good players is he being carried? probably. im not sure why pitt is trying to move kappy. they are a playoff team here that if healthy might be able to do some damage. stars and ducks are right there for the 8th spot in the west so maybe if they go on serious losing skids maybe they move a guy but they could sneak in. tippett and wahlstrom arent getting moved unless those teams land serious assets. could see florida moving tippett for a real star. before his injury last year i wanted gustav but hes really dropped off. not really a fan of roslovic hes a 3c. i like victor olofsson but idk how productive he would be 5v5 here. might be a solid option but if we are going rental we need a 2c. haula at 2c gets us nowhere.

I would rather be a seller this year. sell craig smith, debrusk, lazar, anyone you can get value for that isnt really a part of your core and push all in next year when you have a chance to get a real 2c. idk if the bruins expected krejci to return or if they thought coyle could seemlessly replace him there but he hasnt looked like a real 2c. atm we are the 8 seed. and without a true 2nd line center we arent beating tampa, pitt, florida, carolina, or toronto.

I’m in the same boat, this year is not looking great, BUT I don’t see sweeny doing a lot selling this year. I see him adding “cheaper” piece that try to improve for a playoff run (which I agree WILL not be close to enough) but if he completely throws in the towel on the year I would think Bergeron walks no questions asked this off-season, I think if he plays the game of trying to add for playoff push, even by keeping it cheap making smaller adds Bergeron may stay for one more year (but honestly what’s the point? Next year is going to be about the same scenario?) which I’m assuming is what sween is trying to do, so they’re not looking for 1C and 2C in the same year or atleast to get him to Pasta extension so that can be worked out before committing to much to someone else.

But with that I don’t see sween selling or standing pat this year I see a few lateral/ cheaper upgrades coming our way. Which I think could be a top 6 RW rental ( probably not a true top 6 RW more or less an upgrade over smith and calling him 1-2RW) and maybe 3RD upgrade over Clifton, staying relatively cheap at both, acquiring wise, keeping his first rounder and not trading A or even prob B prospects

Cause I mean let’s be honest here, the only way Boston competes with any of the top 4 playoff teams is a real 2C, a top 1LD, upgraded 3RD (IMO, meaning little more reliable and expirenced over cliffy) and again an upgraded RW over smith (Again IMO), these moves put them in contention for sure. While the later two should be to much to acquire (say someone like Rakell and maybe a Braun from PHI (or like player from elsewhere just for little size and experience over Clifton) these are cheap acquisitions that can improve the team but are the bottom of needs priority list. And as far as the other 2 go both positions are going to take away YEARS of picks, prospects and do nothing but prolong the inevitable. And I don’t see the bruins close to deep enough to acquire both these needs at this TDL, so is there even a sense to bother cause will an upgrade in one of these positions and not the other really make the bruins cup favorites? I don’t think so, And honestly I don’t see the point, what’s the point to go get a Miller/hertl or a lindholm all at 28+ years old, they are all in their prime, and by the time the bruins rebuild they are likely past it and we’re in the same position as we are now. Though that could be argued that if Bergeron retires and bruins take a top center like hertl and wrap him up to replace berg and get another 2C in the off-season that this team is still a contender. An argument could be made for chychrun, age and term make him useful for many years to come and something your don’t feel so bad about giving up a big haul for.

It’s definitely a hard conversation to have because both sides have compelling arguments.

I mean march and hall are both still locked up for 4 years, pasta isn’t going anywhere, so right there is foundation of a competive team up front for a couple more years, along with Mac, Carlo and (IMO urho at 2LD) on the back end and swayman In net, how much of a rebuild is truly needed, I wouldn’t call it a rebuild while all the are foundation pieces and positions, granted hall and march are going to need to be replaced sooner than the other but anyways w or w/o Bergeron, there’s a strong base of a team here (which I think he is also still plenty good enough to be a 1C in this league for couple more years) so do the bruins push of a retool for a couple more years? Maybe try to get a little younger in the next couple years with the plan of a “ rebuild” in 2-3 years, also a possible scenario

I disagree on the notion they need a 1 LD. i think simply adding a stay at home 3-4 would be fine. basically what they thought forbort would be but whiffed bigtime on. the upgrade over clifton has to happen. trade him in the package. get him out of here. if im trading with the stars i try and get hakanpaa and pavelski together. hakanpaa is making 1.65 for a few years and hes a solid 3rd pair dman. if they cant get a 2c they arent winning anything.

interesting scenario im not sure about the cap space or what you would have to move around cap wise but would you make a deal to get a logan couture here. im super nervous about his contract being for 5 more years but hes 32 and still performing well.

You running Pav at 2C or RW? And I also like Hak, both viable options, them alone I don’t feel like is enough though, but definitely gets us out of the first and probably through the second round for sure. And with Pav being a rental ( assuming BOS doesn’t have the money or want to give him the term he’s looking for to keep him around) the cost would be a little to high for me personally but that all depends on the actual cost and what other pieces is BOS adding with these two to make a real strong push for a cup this year

As far as couture I’m out, the term length kills me, I agrees he’s still a very good productive player and if it was like 3 years I could probably stomach it but 5 is to much for to old of a guy IMO

ide use pavs as 2c. i think he can still be effective there. hes an above 50% faceoff guy for his career. and can definitely elevate hall and pasta or smith.

Barby plays both wings

He is not a defensive specialist, he doesn't shy away from defense just isn't good at it.

He is not physical but is not afraid of the corners and absorbs a lot of punishment and bounces right back. He is a strong forechecker despite his size.

His vision and hands are top notch/borderline elite.

What you think the return is going to be for Pav, 1st and good prospect?

Thanks for this, kinda what I though about him with my limited views. Like I said after that post I just really like how he ALWAYS seems to be infront or around the net. He has very good positional awareness/hockey iq I think, he knows when and where to go for the most part. And I think he would be a good fit with marchy, the size of both wingers is the only real issue I can see here against big playoff teams but think there’s enough talent between them two that d fence would have to respect them and give them a little room cause if they beat you 1 on 1 it’s not going to end well

without retention bruins need to move moore, freddy, debrusk, clifton to bring in pavs and jani

probably because hes over ppg. but 7m price tag also limits who he can go to

Right and also his NMC gives him basically all the power, so not going to really be other teams driving up the price, I just don’t know if the bruins are going to be on his list or if he would be willing to waive for us but definitely an option especially if the price drops a little because of these things, but bruins are going to have to get third team involved or SJS for retention

oh for sure, send moore to arizona with clifton and a mid round pick. dallas could be interested in debrusk too. so a first and debrusk for pavs and jani might actually be doable. send freddy for a mid-late round pick.

He needs to play with guys who can finish. IMO he is totally wasted on a checking line. Toronto coach didn't trust him with important assignments and that's why he failed there. He got rocked a couple times this year in what looked like season ending hits and was back in 2 minutes creating offense. He's definitely worth a 2nd + given his low price.

Ya it’s really do able, could be worth with couple other little moves/upgrades, still would like a upgrade at LD even if that meant moving Reilly and bring in UFA for playoffs, think it would be worth it, ( I’m not a huge Grez fan) not saying he isn’t good I would just like and upgrade at LD over him and forbort( forbort trade clause drives down his value and I think his size is more important in playoffs over Reillys puck moving

Ya that’s another reason I think he could work, he’s one of them players that needs good players around him (a la Bergeron and marchy), not a whole lot different then debrusk really in that regard. By himself he’s not a top 6 winger but he plays up the lineup very well and for the price is probably one of the best options

If you want a big defensive winger he is not that. He is a point scorer mainly

okay can he play RW? B's need a better scorer on that first line

interesting well i hope boston considers him as an option if the asking price isn't super high. i watched his highlight reel of him in russia and wow that boy can skate and he has some nice edgework aswell to pair up with his nasty hands

He has made some absolutely nasty plays this year on Hertl's wing. He's good most every game but every now and then he does something that blows your mind.

Checkout this setup. Barby threads it with all five Devils watching him. Special stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LlxytawbPo

grz and mcavoy play really well together. they need someone to play with carlo and a rhd 2 way with forbort.