Horrible for the Canucks. I don't even know where to start

Philly is better off drafting Nemec or Jiricek

PHI is rebuilding so Miller has less value in that scenario. Ultimately, PHI gives up all the younger players and better picks for UFAs to be in Miller and Dickinson.

Boeser and Koneckny are close to a wash, but with TK signed for less than boeser will get and having the better stats and boeser missing games every season, even that is weighted in VAN favour.

Boeser is better than Konecny, he just had a down year, Boeser and Konecny aren't quite a wash

Koneckny has the better stats, Boeser has missed games every year in the NHL, Boeser will get more than Knoneckny's 5.5mil, while boeser might be the better all-around player, those facts make it even at best for VAN.

Boeser's injury history doesn't hamper his value by that much

Maybe, but Boeser has played a career high 71 games once (this yr) and each season has had injuries. His career highs in pts were back in 2017/18 and 2018/19. Hes played 324 games in 6 pro seasons, TK has played 428.

Whle Boeser is the better player, contract/injuries factor a lot into overall worth.

But the rest of the proposed package is pretty bad and does not factor into anything PHI needs/wants. I know its what VAN will offer, but its also about what PHI needs/wants

Uh, hello? the first comment on this thread is from me stating how horrible this is from the CANUCKS perspective

VAN gets better value elsewhere, I agree. But really the entire proposal is not anything PHI is looking to do, so in that respect we agree its bad for both.

IMO, Koneckny for Boeser alone is maybe doable, theres alittle to and fro on who wins a one for one deal, but thats really the only bit of the proposal that PHI might want a part of.

I wouldn't do Konecny for Boeser, I would ask Philly to add at least a 3rd. This is all assuming that I can't fleece Chuck Fletcher in this scenario



Yes, we can agree on that

well said!

You got it man! Can't wait for (hopefully) the mid-season house cleaning down in Philly, just like how it happened with my Canucks this season

Hard to evaluate PHI when the injuries were ridiculous, but players like Koneckny and Provorov are being sought in trade BY MOST for little or no value based on this season. But Koneckny put up 50+ pts on a team that was missing its 1C for most of the year, and its 2C, its 2LW and its best player, Giroux, for 20+ games, (among others) which makes his production pretty good IMO.

Fletcher might part with a later year 3rd and TK for Boeser, but I think Ellis is already being viewed as its 22-23 big ticket UFA (after only 4 games in 21-22), and I just dont see them parting with their 1st or Attard and contrary to some PHI fans, I dont see a single 7mil+ player as the answer.

Overall I think with the limited looks at a real lineup and a ton of little evaluated/? youth that all looked good in limited NHL time in Frost, Tippett, Alison, York, Zamula, Attard, Ratcliffe and Foerster, PHI will run with what they have (bar moving JVR and grabbing a top 6 LW, but likely not a trade of youth for a UFA to be, like Miller)

Yeah makes sense, but I wouldn't blame Philly's season entirely on injuries. In fact, I think injuries hardly have anything to do with it

Oh yeah, definitely. But it made/makes it hard to evaluate the youngsters and what worked/didn;t. Coaching was definitely a problem.

For instance, Sanheim had a career year, but was that success due to comparing to an entire team that looked bad OR having Risto on RD who was more reliable (strangely enough) than Myers OR is he just getting better? The injuries certainly showed that they lacked high end players in what was viewed as deep team (for example, Yandle and Braun and York as a callup as a 3rd pairing was the preseason idea, but Braun had to play 1RD, a scrub had to play 3RD and Yandle was horrible, but due to his streak they couldnt bench him).

But overall injuries played a huge part in exposing lack of high end talent and gave exposure to youngsters, but when your 3rd and 4th lines are filled with Willmans, Browns, Jackson Cates, Mayhew, Bunnamon, etc... its hard to see who is good and who isn;t.

Fair enough, but I feel I've seen enough to say that just counting on the young guys won't be enough to get them into the post-season