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Aug 7, 2018
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SimpleMilkman</b></div><div>dont like the Bos-Phi trade from philly, and youre underpaying hart and Sandy bout a mill each.</div></div>
I see the RFA signings like this: both tanked this year, not just inconsistent or uneven, but both were poor. Hart is going from entry level to 2.5-2.8 for just 3 yrs (NJD Blackwood is a good example, he had a good year and got just 4mil) and Sanheim is getting increase from 3.2 to 3.85 but will hit UFA when contract ends. Sanheim will have made 20 mil in his first 8 yrs of pro hockey, in a flat cap, I cant see him as a 4.5+ mil dman, (larsson just got 4mil and oleksiak 4.6mil but both are far more established and coming off better/more reliable years).
As far as JVR for Debrusk, you are getting cap space, a player 7 yrs younger, and hoping for Debrusk to become the power forward of 20+ goals a year he appeared to be last year.
I think Ottawa would like a vet, especially one still in that 60-70pt range with no injury history, but dont think dandanov is a player PHI wants.
Zaitsev, whos a nice RD stay at home guy would be a better option, whos also on the hook for too many yrs and is a bit overpaid.
PHI could partner Zaitsev with rookie Cam York or Egor Zamula, or even outside chance of russian compatriot Provorov, but thats a deal PHI does.
Ellis-Savard-Zaitsev (Provorov-Sanheim-York/Zamula down left) down the right side looks good for PHI.
Im not sure Bonino is the key on 3C, I'm thinking Frost goes there, or even Laughton.
Without Bonino, and Zaitsev instead of Dandovov (with Frost on big club) that still leaves 3.3mil free, (with Braun and Morin and Riley Nash or 13th forward in press box) so maybe a better 4LW option than Bobby Ryan (which gives you 4.3mil) like an offensive speedster Mattheiu Perreault or even two-way Blake Coleman or make a trade for Ryan Reeves or Calle Jarnkrot.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I would do it . Would probably take an extra piece from Ottawa but I’d still do that</div></div>
Its really the one piece of Ottawas roster (besides the youngsters), maybe add 2022 BOS 3rd.
I'll be honest and say I'm a fan of Voracek. He has no injury history, and while overpaid by a 1-2mil, he is a 60+ pt top six winger who creates. Most point producing wingers are not creators. Josh Bailey makes 5mil and I think Voracek is a step above. While Voracek is no pjsyical beast, he works the boards, can hit, and will drop the gloves when needed. Overall hes a solid bet to produce at his 60-70pt level throughout his contract.
Hes probably worth alot more than Zaitsev (who afdmittedly had a rebound yr, but is himself overpaid by a 1mil or so), and a 2nd and 3rd, but Philly could use the cap space and have the second RD they need, even if on the third pair with youngster Cam York and PK. (although outside chance the russians provorov and zaitsev might work well togwether).
So Voracek for Zaitsev, 2022 TBL 2nd and 2022 BOS 3rd.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nighthawk</b></div><div>Adjusted the D pairings.
20m+ leftover cap for additional UFA’s this offseason or next.</div></div>
Nice, a cheap option would be MacDermid to PHI for Gotisbehere (he played on RIGHT defense, over 19 mins a night, was on pace for 40+ pts, put on waivers due to roster issues), but he'd be a nice and cheap add with Souycy, and PHI probably would like the toughness
20m in leftover cap is good, but I just dont know where they get a real good 1C in UFA, I dont see one. Gourde is a great addition, but he would be my 2C, McCann 3C and jarnkrot or Geekie as 4C. The best C in UFA is Dandanault, but hes a good two way guy who's upside is probably 2C.
Maybe taking on somebody's cap issue at 1C is a way forward? Johansson from NSH, Hayes from PHI come to mind, but again those guys are probably 2Cs as well....hmmmm
I like Holl and he has played really well, but hes 28 yrs old with 2 seasons in NHL, offers little offensively, and is really right time/right place guy. I dont really think hes a good number 4, hes an average number 4, and might be worse than that on another team. He has exceeded expectations and has played well and at good value. But lets not get carried away, if he cost 3.5mil he'd be a disappointment.
Overall, TOR would lose a valuable player in expansion, and its very debateable whether SEA would have gone for Kerfoot over Holl, (i think they would have, no doubt in my mind. Take a look at the dmen available in front of Holl and the ones they chose (Oleksiak/Larsson/Dunn/Giordano/young guys) and compare that to the centermen). But McCann is far the better player on a good contract and more of what the team needs for depth and in their pretty meh bottom 6. Maybe Holl is more of what the team needs right now, but McCann coming off two 32+ pt seasons (better than Kerfoot) as well as the loss of Hallander and a 7th, looks plain dumb.
Mayvbe Hallander and a 7th is debateable value, but we just lost 3 assets on a (remote) chance they took Holl, which I think is poor management
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sk540</b></div><div>I honestly think Risto is a player that has never been utilized right. He is not a first pairing shutdown defender, but that's how he was employed in buffalo. he can definitely chip in some points as well. I mean, it's buffalo after all, no one should be shocked. Playing on the 2nd or 3rd pairing with a defensively responsible dman perhaps can allow him to be the player everyone thought he'd be when he came into the league. With a trade like that, it's basically no risk.</div></div>
I agree. Risto hits, skates, plays big minutes and produces offensively, but he needs a steady partner who can mind the shop.
Yandle is too old and never has been a real physical specimen. With Ellis in the fold, thats enough age.
There are tons of options (even if SEA grabs Larsson). Even a Suter at 2LD, moving Sanheim to 2RD, or York to 2RD sounds good.
But we just our dealt our envisioned 2RD for a 1RD, so we need another big minute eating dman.
Personally I like a dman corp of:
provorov/ellis/suter/braun can all play pk and York/Suter/Provorov/Ellis can play PP. But overall its a nice mix of size, physicality and puck movement
After being benched, I would have to think Dermott doesn;t have tons of value. Hes a nice 3rd pairing guy, but nothing special (hes not really a puck rusher and not a hitter/crease clearer). Mikheyev doesn;t carry tons of value either, hes a pretty run of the mill bottom 6 guy, so I dont think AMirov gets you both Kuemper and Crouse, especially with retention. Crouse is just alright, but Kuemper and his retention is probably worth that deal alone.
Hamonic like last year, has family issues and wouldn;t move to the east coast.
And the over-the-hill gang of: ryan, simmonds, perry, spezza wont make an 80 game season