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Doing the math for a Kakko OS match

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Team: 2022-23 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: May 27, 2022
Published: May 27, 2022
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I was generous on FA signings too..
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May 27, 2022 at 7:33 p.m.
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Buying out Trouba would give us the 4m to match Kakko alone. Not signing a 6m 2C this summer like most think. Lindgren could easily be traded for a nice return while moving Jones into that spot. It’s going to need to be a 6m+ for them to let him got for picks. Chytil, Goodrow, Reaves all have trade value as well. 4.2M isn’t going to be an issue for the basically extinct OS. If no one did it to TB after Stanley cups for better players(Cirelli, Serg, Cernak) then KAkko is safe
May 27, 2022 at 7:41 p.m.
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Buying out Trouba would give us the 4m to match Kakko alone. Not signing a 6m 2C this summer like most think. Lindgren could easily be traded for a nice return while moving Jones into that spot. It’s going to need to be a 6m+ for them to let him got for picks. Chytil, Goodrow, Reaves all have trade value as well. 4.2M isn’t going to be an issue for the basically extinct OS. If no one did it to TB after Stanley cups for better players(Cirelli, Serg, Cernak) then KAkko is safe


That's wishful thinking and Rangers are not going to buy out Trouba. Drury just added Goodrow, Blais, and Reaves because they need toughness. He isn't going to buyout or trade one of his best hard nose players in Trouba to save Kakko. Nor should he. Having guys like Trouba, Lindgren, Goodrow, and Reaves is vital to playoff ranger team.

The argument in the previous post isn't whether or not it is realistic for a team to offersheet Kakko, but if it happened, could the Rangers afford to match it? The answer appears to be no.
May 27, 2022 at 7:46 p.m.
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Excatly my point. You don't have to want Kakko badly, you just offer sheet him to screw Rangers good time. Drury got a lot of work to move this team forwards, they are good on top, but very thin down the line.
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May 27, 2022 at 7:49 p.m.
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That's wishful thinking and Rangers are not going to buy out Trouba. Drury just added Goodrow, Blais, and Reaves because they need toughness. He isn't going to buyout or trade one of his best hard nose players in Trouba to save Kakko. Nor should he. Having guys like Trouba, Lindgren, Goodrow, and Reaves is vital to playoff ranger team.

The argument in the previous post isn't whether or not it is realistic for a team to offersheet Kakko, but if it happened, could the Rangers afford to match it? The answer appears to be no.


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That's wishful thinking and Rangers are not going to buy out Trouba. Drury just added Goodrow, Blais, and Reaves because they need toughness. He isn't going to buyout or trade one of his best hard nose players in Trouba to save Kakko. Nor should he. Having guys like Trouba, Lindgren, Goodrow, and Reaves is vital to playoff ranger team.

The argument in the previous post isn't whether or not it is realistic for a team to offersheet Kakko, but if it happened, could the Rangers afford to match it? The answer appears to be no.


Hahaha you’re going to be very angry when your GM doesn’t do it, no other GM does it. He will sign a bridge around 3M to be with a contender instead of going to a rebuild mess if the 4.2 is even offered. It’s a pipe dream. You need to make it worth his while to move to a bad team who he may not be with by the time they are contending.. Drury brought in the grit to help train the kids how to be tougher and to protect them. Laf is way tougher than last year, Kakko also. They are all going to be a few pounds bigger, stronger next year and more skilled. People really don’t calculate the growth from within into the equation. He could subtract something and still be tougher than this season. Blais didn’t even play 60% of the season so he will be adding grit immediately
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May 27, 2022 at 7:52 p.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
Buying out Trouba would give us the 4m to match Kakko alone. Not signing a 6m 2C this summer like most think. Lindgren could easily be traded for a nice return while moving Jones into that spot. It’s going to need to be a 6m+ for them to let him got for picks. Chytil, Goodrow, Reaves all have trade value as well. 4.2M isn’t going to be an issue for the basically extinct OS. If no one did it to TB after Stanley cups for better players(Cirelli, Serg, Cernak) then KAkko is safe


Not necessarily. Teams might OS Kakko with the intentions of going for the bigger fishes, so to speak. Lafreniere, Miller, and Chytil would be due after next season, with Lundkvist, Shneider, and Lindgren the year after that. It would really never have been about just Kakko, as he is the smallest fish on the list. With the contract Reaves has, he doesn’t hold much value. For someone who plays between 7 and 11 minutes per game, really only to be a goon, you aren’t getting much for him.

If the Rangers don’t sign a 2C for 6mil, would they bump Chytil up to 2C? Yes it gives them cap space, but the cost would be not being a contender. So is it really worth the Rangers matching an OS to Kakko? With the bigger fish involved in the big picture, no Kakko is not worth it. The worst thing that could happen would be the maximum for a second rounder for 1 year. Much like the KK situation in MTL, if he gets matched, he either gets traded or doesn’t get qualified. I think the Rags take contending for the cup over Kakko.
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May 27, 2022 at 7:55 p.m.
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Hahaha you’re going to be very angry when your GM doesn’t do it, no other GM does it. He will sign a bridge around 3M to be with a contender instead of going to a rebuild mess if the 4.2 is even offered. It’s a pipe dream. You need to make it worth his while to move to a bad team who he may not be with by the time they are contending.. Drury brought in the grit to help train the kids how to be tougher and to protect them. Laf is way tougher than last year, Kakko also. They are all going to be a few pounds bigger, stronger next year and more skilled. People really don’t calculate the growth from within into the equation. He could subtract something and still be tougher than this season. Blais didn’t even play 60% of the season so he will be adding grit immediately


I don't necessarily want Kakko. After seeing posts of Kakko for Vilardi and Turcotte and/or Kaliyev, I can promise you no GM is going to trade any of those 3 players when they can easily offersheet the player for a 2nd instead since the team can't afford to match it.

Don't worry, Kings aren't giving up that haul for Kakko and most likely won't offersheet him anyway. Kakko isn't an immediate improvement over Kaliyev and Vilardi.

The point is, the Kings could offersheet him and the Rangers would be unable to match it. End. Of. Story. . . .
May 27, 2022 at 7:57 p.m.
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Not necessarily. Teams might OS Kakko with the intentions of going for the bigger fishes, so to speak. Lafreniere, Miller, and Chytil would be due after next season, with Lundkvist, Shneider, and Lindgren the year after that. It would really never have been about just Kakko, as he is the smallest fish on the list. With the contract Reaves has, he doesn’t hold much value. For someone who plays between 7 and 11 minutes per game, really only to be a goon, you aren’t getting much for him.

If the Rangers don’t sign a 2C for 6mil, would they bump Chytil up to 2C? Yes it gives them cap space, but the cost would be not being a contender. So is it really worth the Rangers matching an OS to Kakko? With the bigger fish involved in the big picture, no Kakko is not worth it. The worst thing that could happen would be the maximum for a second rounder for 1 year. Much like the KK situation in MTL, if he gets matched, he either gets traded or doesn’t get qualified. I think the Rags take contending for the cup over Kakko.


There are Guys like Pavelski available at TDL. We didn’t have a 2C all season. I’m pretty sure it was actually you that pointed out that all 4 of your Cs were better than Strome 😂. It’s no sweat of our backs losing him and replacing him with Chytil who is just more of the same at 1/2 the price. 🤷🏻‍♂️
May 27, 2022 at 7:59 p.m.
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I don't necessarily want Kakko. After seeing posts of Kakko for Vilardi and Turcotte and/or Kaliyev, I can promise you no GM is going to trade any of those 3 players when they can easily offersheet the player for a 2nd instead since the team can't afford to match it.

Don't worry, Kings aren't giving up that haul for Kakko and most likely won't offersheet him anyway. Kakko isn't an immediate improvement over Kaliyev and Vilardi.

The point is, the Kings could offersheet him and the Rangers would be unable to match it. End. Of. Story. . . .


That’s fine. I’m not trying to trade him. I’m signing him for a 2.5-3m bridge to get us to the year we move Kreider and Trouba.
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May 27, 2022 at 8:01 p.m.
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I don't necessarily want Kakko. After seeing posts of Kakko for Vilardi and Turcotte and/or Kaliyev, I can promise you no GM is going to trade any of those 3 players when they can easily offersheet the player for a 2nd instead since the team can't afford to match it.

Don't worry, Kings aren't giving up that haul for Kakko and most likely won't offersheet him anyway. Kakko isn't an immediate improvement over Kaliyev and Vilardi.

The point is, the Kings could offersheet him and the Rangers would be unable to match it. End. Of. Story. . . .


Dundon & owners, along with their 20$ signing bonus on Kotkas offersheet, sent a clear message to owners about self spiking rfas loud n clear. End. Of. Story. . . . .
May 27, 2022 at 9:07 p.m.
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I don't necessarily want Kakko. After seeing posts of Kakko for Vilardi and Turcotte and/or Kaliyev, I can promise you no GM is going to trade any of those 3 players when they can easily offersheet the player for a 2nd instead since the team can't afford to match it.

Don't worry, Kings aren't giving up that haul for Kakko and most likely won't offersheet him anyway. Kakko isn't an immediate improvement over Kaliyev and Vilardi.

The point is, the Kings could offersheet him and the Rangers would be unable to match it. End. Of. Story. . . .


You know the player has to sign the Offer sheet right ? So no ones getting it done for a "2nd"
May 27, 2022 at 9:12 p.m.
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There are Guys like Pavelski available at TDL. We didn’t have a 2C all season. I’m pretty sure it was actually you that pointed out that all 4 of your Cs were better than Strome 😂. It’s no sweat of our backs losing him and replacing him with Chytil who is just more of the same at 1/2 the price. 🤷🏻‍♂️


Did I say that? I mean, at least in terms of effectiveness this series, yes, all 4 have been better than Strome. I’m just not sure if I even said that. But hey, that’s what happens when you have to deal with delusional people for a living.
May 27, 2022 at 9:20 p.m.
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Did I say that? I mean, at least in terms of effectiveness this series, yes, all 4 have been better than Strome. I’m just not sure if I even said that. But hey, that’s what happens when you have to deal with delusional people for a living.


It was either you or caniac but I’m 90% sure it was you. 3-4 months ago. Either way Strome and Chytil are very much the same so it’s not going to hurt us to have him replace Strome while we likely get a better 3C in his place.
 
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