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Swimming in circles

Created by: gmgb
Team: 2022-23 Nashville Predators
Initial Creation Date: May 27, 2022
Published: Jun. 6, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Add a 3rd or a B prospect like Alex Campbell to CAR
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
2$875,000
1$875,000
2$788,000
3$945,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
1$788,000
5$2,250,000
4$2,250,000
6$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$800,000
8$9,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Kuzmenko, Andrei
3$2,500,000
Trades
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2.
NSH
  1. Lipkin, Sam [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (SJS)
ARI
  1. Gardiner, Jake ($2,025,000 retained)
  2. Kunin, Luke [RFA Rights]
Buyouts
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$70,941,142$0$212,500$11,558,858
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW
UFA - 8
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
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$800,000$800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW
RFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$875,000$875,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
Kuzmenko, Andrei
$2,500,000$2,500,000
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$2,857,143$2,857,143
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$9,059,000$9,059,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$733,333$733,333
RD
UFA - 1
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$733,333$733,333
G
UFA - 1
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$945,000$945,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jun. 6, 2022 at 3:44 p.m.
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Canes pass. Gardiner's deal isn't an issue. Necas will be moved for a roster upgrade. To make moving Necas worth while, someone like Jeannot would need to be coming back except like better than Jeannot. Think someone like DeBrincat of Nylander. There's not realyl that kind of guy on Nashville. Forsberg being a free agent isn't going to be moved before or after signing, and if he is, it won't include Necas.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 4:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Canes pass. Gardiner's deal isn't an issue. Necas will be moved for a roster upgrade. To make moving Necas worth while, someone like Jeannot would need to be coming back except like better than Jeannot. Think someone like DeBrincat of Nylander. There's not realyl that kind of guy on Nashville. Forsberg being a free agent isn't going to be moved before or after signing, and if he is, it won't include Necas.


I would be disappointed if my team traded DeBrincat, Nylander, or Forsberg for Necas. Sure there would be other parts, but that’s not a main piece that gets any of those players.
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 4:07 p.m.
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quote=villenash;3285006]I would be disappointed if my team traded DeBrincat, Nylander, or Forsberg for Necas. Sure there would be other parts, but that’s not a main piece that gets any of those players.[/quote]

I have the person you quoted on ignore, so I didn't see their comment. If they are still watching this thread, I would point out to them that Gardiner being medically cleared to play again is a considerable cap issue for CAR, and Granlund is indeed a roster upgrade over Necas (Jeannot would be too, but obviously not available in a trade).

If Hynes can get more out of Necas, I think the deal could be a long-term win for NSH. I thought the most contentious thing here was dumping some meh assets on ARZ.
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 4:16 p.m.
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Quoting: gmgb
quote=villenash;3285006]I have the person you quoted on ignore, so I didn't see their comment. If they are still watching this thread, I would point out to them that Gardiner being medically cleared to play again is a considerable cap issue for CAR, and Granlund is indeed a roster upgrade over Necas (Jeannot would be too, but obviously not available in a trade).

If Hynes can get more out of Necas, I think the deal could be a long-term win for NSH. I thought the most contentious thing here was dumping some meh assets on ARZ.


I think it's an interesting idea. I wouldn't mind adding Necas, but I just wonder about him playing C-- I'm not convinced he will excel at that position. If Duchene goes back to C (doubt it), Forsberg - Duchene - Necas could have some potential. Definitely feels like a competitive retool move or whatever the buzzword Poile and co. like to use is.

I'd also probably lean towards keeping Gardiner, if he can still play. He could be useful in MIL, and I don't see him getting claimed. And when needed, can be brought up to play some games here and there. Who knows, maybe he impresses and splits time with Lauzon-- probably unlikely, but NSH has the cap space to at least consider it.
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 4:23 p.m.
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I think it's an interesting idea. I wouldn't mind adding Necas, but I just wonder about him playing C-- I'm not convinced he will excel at that position. If Duchene goes back to C (doubt it), Forsberg - Duchene - Necas could have some potential. Definitely feels like a competitive retool move or whatever the buzzword Poile and co. like to use is.

I'd also probably lean towards keeping Gardiner, if he can still play. He could be useful in MIL, and I don't see him getting claimed. And when needed, can be brought up to play some games here and there. Who knows, maybe he impresses and splits time with Lauzon-- probably unlikely, but NSH has the cap space to at least consider it.


I've heard Necas really prefers playing center. I thought a fresh start with a team willing to give him that opportunity might give him more confidence, and help unlock more of his potential. If it doesn't work, he could shift over to wing. Like you say Duchene moving back to center could be an option. Bumping Glass and Sissons up a line too, making room for Novak to get back into the lineup.

I never thought about holding onto Gardiner, but like you say the cap space is definitely there if NSH wants to consider it.
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 4:32 p.m.
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I would be disappointed if my team traded DeBrincat, Nylander, or Forsberg for Necas. Sure there would be other parts, but that’s not a main piece that gets any of those players.


Necas is 23, can play RW or C, and is a season removed from a 60-point pace. He's team-controlled, has no arbitration rights, and will likely be wanting a bridge deal. You're telling me you wouldn't want Necas as a centerpiece for one of those kinds of players? Toronto fans are already offering Nylander for someone like Necas + 1st + 3rd, or Necas + 1st + Bear. He's 100% that kind of main piece player.
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 5:02 p.m.
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Necas is 23, can play RW or C, and is a season removed from a 60-point pace. He's team-controlled, has no arbitration rights, and will likely be wanting a bridge deal. You're telling me you wouldn't want Necas as a centerpiece for one of those kinds of players? Toronto fans are already offering Nylander for someone like Necas + 1st + 3rd, or Necas + 1st + Bear. He's 100% that kind of main piece player.


I would want more than Necas, a late 1st, and a 3rd pairing dman— yes.
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Jun. 6, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.
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I would want more than Necas, a late 1st, and a 3rd pairing dman— yes.


No certainty it's a late first with how Carolina's goaltenders are that injury prone, and Bear is capable of playing 2nd pairing minutes and is a RD under team control... you act like none of it is valuable, except we've seen trades exactly like that in the past.
Jun. 6, 2022 at 5:07 p.m.
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Well everyone should ignore that poster.

Either way, Nashville and the Canes aren’t much for trade partners this go around. Guys like Granlund are available in FA. If we wanted an underperforming RHD, we could keep Bear.
 
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