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Created by: budgeteam
Published: Jun. 8, 2022 at 8:34 p.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 185/186 (99%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because the cap hit of one of the teams is below the lower limit

Logo of the Ottawa SenatorsOttawa Senators

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Gustavsson, FilipOttawa SenatorsMinor-$0011-------00
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Daccord, JoeySeattle KrakenMinor-$0011-------00
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$24,206,7861434463816
Change$0000000
Final$24,206,7861434463816000

Logo of the Seattle KrakenSeattle Kraken

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Daccord, JoeySeattle KrakenMinor-$0011-------00
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Gustavsson, FilipOttawa SenatorsMinor-$0011-------00
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$22,885,83414212631318
Change$0000000
Final$22,885,83414212631318000
Jun. 8, 2022 at 8:43 p.m.
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couldnt afford 2nd t
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Would Seattle take the goalie who was more highly touted out of the draft, and has shown more (in a small sample size) in the NHL? After Gustavsson failed to move forward this past season, would Ottawa want to take a mulligan on the 2021 expansion draft? Or, is each team happy with how this turned out?

With Driedger projected to be on IR for most of the 22-23 season, Daccord would project as Seattle's number 2 goalie. Would they prefer Gustavsson in that spot?

The tale of the tape:
-Both goalies are no longer waiver exempt.
-Both goalies have 1 year 7XXk 1-way contracts.
-Both goalies are RFAs after the contracts expire.
-Both teams have a logjam in net, with 3 goalies signed to 1-way contracts.
-Seattle's logjam is alleviated next season, since Driedger will be out with an injury for almost he entire season.

Performance:
-In the 20-21 season, Gustavsson was the Senators best performing goalie in a small sample size. He had a .933 save percentage over 9 games.
-Gustavsson was a highly touted goalie prospect, selected in the 2nd round of the 2016 draft by the Penguins. He was a central piece in the Brassard trade.
-Gustavsson had solid numbers in the AHL, but failed to perform in the NHL.

-Joey Daccord was a 7th round pick in the 2015 draft.
-Daccord is the typical late bloomer, who takes a few years to get going at each level, but has dominated everywhere he has played since being drafted. He had a stellar third year in a new Arizona State hockey program before turning pro.
-He has not shown what Gustavsson has in the NHL, but has vastly outplayed him in the AHL so far.
-In Daccord's defense, no Seattle goalies were good, while both Murray (at times) and Forsberg outperformed Gustavsson in the NHL.
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Jun. 8, 2022 at 9:50 p.m.
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Ottawa might actually do this bc it solves the 3-goalies problem as Daccord can go to minors.

Edit: Actually if Daccord is on a 1 way and isnt waiver excempt then Ottawa isn't interested, doesn't change anything
Jun. 8, 2022 at 10:15 p.m.
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Quoting: SwolePtrl
Ottawa might actually do this bc it solves the 3-goalies problem as Daccord can go to minors.

Edit: Actually if Daccord is on a 1 way and isnt waiver excempt then Ottawa isn't interested, doesn't change anything


Dorion isn't planning on running 3 goalies in the NHL. When he claims he is, he is either:
1 - Trying to posture because he wants to trade Gustavsson, and wants GMs to feel like they have to meet his price.
2 - Planning on waiving Matt Murray if he doesn't show consistency, and doesn't want to be a dick about it.

Murray has shown the Senators they cannot rely on him. He plays lights out for 3 games, and then gets injured. Plays bad for 5 games, lights out for 6, injured again. Rinse, repeat. It doesn't matter if Murray on his best day blows away Forsberg or Gustavsson. Part of being an NHL goalie is having a certain level of consistency. I don't think Dorion is going to trust Murray's lack of consistency during their do or die season.

Both teams situations would be, who do they think is going to be the better NHL goalie next season, Daccord or Gustavsson? Because with Driedger hurt and Murray almost certainly not playing the whole season, they are probably the #2 goalies for both the teams.
Jun. 8, 2022 at 10:16 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 8, 2022 at 10:22 p.m.
Kraken should consider this. Would OTT bring back there own previous goalie for another one?
Jun. 9, 2022 at 10:02 a.m.
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