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Canes get trade happy trading DeA

Created by: ecupirate07
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 16, 2022
Published: Jun. 16, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Carolina Hurricanes
Team Explanation
Canes go 11-7. One of Khaira or Kassian sit. Keane plays PP QB for both PPs and some O zone draw on the right point with Slavin or Kulikov.

draft day trades are to any team
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Necas, Martin3$3,500,000
Keane, Joey1$800,000
Fiala, Kevin8$8,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Kulak, Brett3$2,900,000
Niederreiter, Nino4$4,750,000
Smith, Brendan1$900,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Kassian, Zach1$1,150,000
Trades
1.
CAR
    Any team, what is the offer?
    ANA
    1. Deangelo, Anthony [RFA Rights]
    2.
    CAR
    1. Kulikov, Dmitry
    MIN
    1. 2022 4th round pick (CAR)
    3.
    CAR
    1. 2022 4th round pick (CGY)
    SEA
    1. Lorentz, Steven [RFA Rights]
    4.
    CAR
    1. Khaira, Jujhar
    CHI
    1. Lafontaine, Jack [RFA Rights]
    2. Gardiner, Jake
    3. 2022 4th round pick (CGY)
    5.
    CAR
    1. Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]
    MIN
    1. Necas, Martin
    2. Suzuki, Ryan
    6.
    CAR
      draft day trades to acquire more picks
      MIN
      1. Sellgren, Jesper [RFA Rights]
      2. Bear, Ethan [RFA Rights]
      3. Bokk, Dominik
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2022
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      2023
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      2024
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      23$82,500,000$81,724,417$112,500$500,000$775,583
      Left WingCenterRight Wing
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      Svechnikov, Andrei
      $7,750,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 7
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      Aho, Sebastian
      $8,460,250
      C, LW
      UFA - 2
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      Teräväinen, Teuvo
      $5,400,000
      RW, LW
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      Fiala, Kevin
      $8,000,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 7
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      Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
      $4,820,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 8
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      Jarvis, Seth
      $894,167
      RW
      RFA - 2
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      Niederreiter, Nino
      $4,750,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
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      Staal, Jordan
      $6,000,000
      C, LW
      NMC
      UFA - 1
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      Fast, Jesper
      $2,000,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
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      Khaira, Jujhar
      $975,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 1
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      Drury, Jack
      $925,000
      C
      RFA - 2
      Kassian, Zach
      $1,150,000
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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      Slavin, Jaccob
      $5,300,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 3
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      Pesce, Brett
      $4,025,000
      RD
      UFA - 2
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      Andersen, Frederik
      $4,500,000
      G
      NTC
      UFA - 1
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      Skjei, Brady
      $5,250,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 2
      Kulak, Brett
      $2,900,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 4
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      Raanta, Antti
      $2,000,000
      G
      UFA - 1
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      Kulikov, Dmitry
      $2,250,000
      LD/RD
      NTC
      UFA - 1
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      Chatfield, Jalen
      $762,500
      RD
      UFA - 2
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      Keane, Joey
      $800,000
      RD
      RFA
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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      Martinook, Jordan
      $1,800,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 2
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      Smith, Brendan
      $900,000
      LD/RD, LW
      UFA - 2

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      Jun. 16 at 1:35 p.m.
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      I don't know if Minnesota can take back that much money (necas next deal) in a fiala trade due to cap constraints
      Jun. 16 at 1:41 p.m.
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      Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
      I don't know if Minnesota can take back that much money (necas next deal) in a fiala trade due to cap constraints


      i dont know, you could be right. I think taking Kulikov too just means they added a scorer for +1.25mil. 6 million to re-sign Middleton, get a back-up and add some roster forwards. It will be tight. If guys like Suzuki and Rossi make the roster, it will be a little easier.
      Jun. 16 at 1:43 p.m.
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      If they don’t bring tda back banking on Keane to run both units with no other options is a recipe for disaster when the PP is a key for next year
      Jun. 16 at 1:47 p.m.
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      Minnesota doesn't need ethan bear , Jesper or bokk. Minnesota isn't taking on cap dumps or any cap
      Jun. 16 at 1:47 p.m.
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      Quoting: vikhodush
      If they don’t bring tda back banking on Keane to run both units with no other options is a recipe for disaster when the PP is a key for next year


      turbo needs to go back to the PP point. TDA is likely traded and other options arent there. The point man on the PP isnt hte issue. its the lack of movement and execution.
      Jun. 16 at 1:48 p.m.
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      Quoting: Wildnochance
      Minnesota doesn't need ethan bear , Jesper or bokk. Minnesota isn't taking on cap dumps or any cap


      those are to any team at the draft. calm down. None of those players are cap dumps
      Jun. 16 at 1:55 p.m.
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      Quoting: Wildnochance
      Minnesota doesn't need ethan bear , Jesper or bokk. Minnesota isn't taking on cap dumps or any cap


      You also said they weren't taking on a wing or D at the trade deadline and they proceeded to trade for... a winger and a dman.
      Jun. 16 at 1:58 p.m.
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      Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
      I don't know if Minnesota can take back that much money (necas next deal) in a fiala trade due to cap constraints


      Depending on what happens with their goalie situation, they may be able to bridge Necas on a 2-3 year deal and make that work. If they bring back Fleury and keep Talbot, that probably eliminates any other moves that bring back more than league minimum cap barring some unlikely situation like they move Zuccarello or something.
      Jun. 16 at 2:03 p.m.
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      Quoting: JayTea
      Depending on what happens with their goalie situation, they may be able to bridge Necas on a 2-3 year deal and make that work. If they bring back Fleury and keep Talbot, that probably eliminates any other moves that bring back more than league minimum cap barring some unlikely situation like they move Zuccarello or something.


      Yeah we’d have to move Jost and Kul as well as Fiala. Maybe Talbot and Dumba too.
      Jun. 16 at 2:30 p.m.
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      Quoting: ecupirate07
      turbo needs to go back to the PP point. TDA is likely traded and other options arent there. The point man on the PP isnt hte issue. its the lack of movement and execution.


      It wasn’t an issue but you’re creating one. Idk why it’s most likely he’s traded - have seen nothing that suggests that at this point. Just keep him.
      Jun. 16 at 2:33 p.m.
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      Quoting: vikhodush
      It wasn’t an issue but you’re creating one. Idk why it’s most likely he’s traded - have seen nothing that suggests that at this point. Just keep him.


      Frank Seravalli already made the thought.
      Jun. 16 at 3:23 p.m.
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      Quoting: ecupirate07
      Frank Seravalli already made the thought.


      I saw his trade target article - I discounted it because he didn’t have anything tied to the comment around them not being able to afford tda - no sources, no contract estimates, etc. If canes dump Gardiner they have plenty of space to keep tda.
      Jun. 16 at 3:25 p.m.
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      Quoting: vikhodush
      I saw his trade target article - I discounted it because he didn’t have anything tied to the comment around them not being able to afford tda - no sources, no contract estimates, etc. If canes dump Gardiner they have plenty of space to keep tda.


      little to do with affording next season but what they and TDA want for next contracts. TDA is going to want a 1 year or max deal. either one make sense for his career earning potential. Canes probably arent going to offer him the one year total he thinks he should get and surely wont meet the max deal.
      Jun. 16 at 3:29 p.m.
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      Quoting: ecupirate07
      little to do with affording next season but what they and TDA want for next contracts. TDA is going to want a 1 year or max deal. either one make sense for his career earning potential. Canes probably arent going to offer him the one year total he thinks he should get and surely wont meet the max deal.


      Again I haven’t seen any reputable sources provide contract projections for tda. Very unique situation, but my guess is he’s not going to get the type of deal somebody with his production last year normally would given his past off ice issues. He also stressed multiple times last summer, during season and in exit interviews about fit and loyalty.

      Just my guess but I think canes and tda find common ground and get a medium term deal done at a slight discount from what he’d normally get. 3/4-5.5ish would be my guess.

      canes normally stick to their guns on player values but there’s also a point where they may have to go slightly above when there’s no reasonable backup options internally or externally. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
      Jun. 16 at 3:34 p.m.
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      Quoting: vikhodush
      Again I haven’t seen any reputable sources provide contract projections for tda. Very unique situation, but my guess is he’s not going to get the type of deal somebody with his production last year normally would given his past off ice issues. He also stressed multiple times last summer, during season and in exit interviews about fit and loyalty.

      Just my guess but I think canes and tda find common ground and get a medium term deal done at a slight discount from what he’d normally get. 3/4-5.5ish would be my guess.

      canes normally stick to their guns on player values but there’s also a point where they may have to go slightly above when there’s no reasonable backup options internally or externally. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out.


      4-5 years makes little sense for his earning potential. He would be looking at a very light deal coming off of that due to his age. With the power of arbitration he'll get a medium sized 1 year deal then walk away with a ton more suitors than he would this season. Get him a nice 7 year deal that would set him up nicely. What players say means very little. Most say, I would love to stay, I like this organization, etc during the canned media questions.
      Jun. 16 at 3:42 p.m.
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      Quoting: ecupirate07
      4-5 years makes little sense for his earning potential. He would be looking at a very light deal coming off of that due to his age. With the power of arbitration he'll get a medium sized 1 year deal then walk away with a ton more suitors than he would this season. Get him a nice 7 year deal that would set him up nicely. What players say means very little. Most say, I would love to stay, I like this organization, etc during the canned media questions.


      Also assumes teams and owners will commit to giving him a big long deal. Look at the Kane situation. With tda past that’s part of the negotiations. I’m just saying it’s a unique situation without many comps bc of his off ice issues so it wouldn’t surprise me to see short term medium term or long term deals
       
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