Would the Ducks be willing to trade Terry with Necas as the starting piece?

It's probably also important to note that an integral part of GMPV's offseason is extending Terry, Zegras & Drysdale. Part of my criterium when doing this was any salary taken on in trades would only be for the upcoming season, with the only exception being Petr Mrazek. Any extensions made this offseason to the aforementioned players would kick in after the 2022-2023 season, when Lucic, Monahan, Shattenkirk & Klefbom all reach free agency. That leaves Anaheim with ample room to extend at least 2 of the 3 extension candidates to long-term deals, with additional cap being freed up the season after in the form of Henrique, Silfverberg and Mrazek. How'd I do?

I'd find it unlikely, I only threw Necas in since there's rumours circulating around that Carolina might be shopping him/Bear.

leafs decline

I'm sure they would, just didn't want to go down the "Gibson for Mrazek & Nylander" rabbit hole

yeah i dont blame you. but. if it takes dumping a top prospect the leafs will just buy out mrazek. a way more realistic deal is mrazek a 3rd and arbruzzese

Yeah a buyout wouldn't be all that prohibitive, I thought about Abruzzese but I feel like they're gonna need as much help from their ELCs as they can get.

they are going to be player robertson, when they dump mrazek, and move on from holl and kerfoot they have about 14 million in cap space to work with

At a crazy crazy price possibly — won’t be worth it though for the Canes

I’d pass on every single deal here as a Ducks fan

oof

what direction do you hope they take this offseason?

Canes pass - seems like a lot of quantity and don’t really see how it helps us

yeah I probably wouldn't like it either from a Canes' perspective, although Necas is supposedly getting shopped and they might have to make some tough decisions on Trocheck, Niederreiter, Bear and DeAngelo.

So, just in general, how much would you trade Terry for. I really like him as a player, and I think he will do so well playing with Zegras for the next decade.

That's a really hard question because of Terry's rocky path to having a breakout year. So as crazy as this will sound how do you compare Terry and DeBrincat? Players of the same age, both had very nice offensive seasons in 21/22. If you look at the one season in a bubble they aren't that far apart. But DeBrincat started smashing it from day one and has had a whale of a better total career so far.

In a trade does it matter what Terry did in 2018 though? It should be about what he's going to do in 22/23 and beyond, but it's not. In this scenario I don't think there is any way the Ducks get full value for Terry in a trade because I want a package a little less than DeBrincat but I'll never get that much.

The path that makes the most sense is keeping him under the assumption that he'll continue to score 35-40 goals for the team.

I’m sure they’re fielding calls bc last season was a bit rocky and ultimately it’s clear Necas wants to get a shot at playing center again but the Canes have also said they’re not wanting to trade him. If they get blown away by an offer they’ll listen but it would have to upgrade the team today and not be based around futures or smaller pieces.

Trochek is probably gonna get priced out unless he wants to take a 1-2 year team friendly deal but I think it’s unlikely. It seems like the team has had negotiations with Nino and they’re close so wouldn’t be surprised to see him come back on a 3ish year deal around 5m. But even if he left I think they could find a suitable replacement in FA (Copp, Vatrano, Marchmant, giroux, etc). Bear is almost certainly gone - he had a rough season but a lot of it was bc of Covid and some nagging injuries. It just doesn’t seem like it’s gonna work out in CAR so they already have him permission to talk to other teams so we can work a trade out for his rights. Tda I think we keep on a 1-2 year deal around 4-5m. That allows him to keep rebuilding his image and showcasing his ability and gets him to UFA where he’ll cash in if he can keep producing and staying out of trouble.

And that’s the thing. He could potentially be a budget DeBrincat based on what you said. The asking price for DeBrincat was the same as Eichel’s asking price, so what would you think of the equivalent of 3 first round assets, with a little extra and maybe some cap going to Anaheim to make it work.

What about Necas, Bear, 2023 first, and Honka, with Gardiner as a cap move to make the trade work if his NTC allows (don’t want another Dadonov now do we)? Gardiner could be flipped for another asset provided he has a decently productive year. Honka is a quality RHD prospect, and Bear could help hold down the fort until Honka is ready. Obviously, the Canes would push for the 1st rounder to be conditional based on production, and for hypothetical purposes, assuming the conditions are not met, the Ducks would get a 23 2nd round pick and a 23 5th round pick.

Would that proposal be a bit better or would there need to be a little bit added?

The one where we acquire every possible ‘cap dump’ fit as much as possible and build our team with that (both through trades and the draft)

How true is it that a sticking point between Necas and the Canes is whether he'll play center or wing? Cause I don't see room for him on the Ducks at center either. As for Bear, he's not my guy in this. 24 yr old already looking for his third team... that's too much red flag for me in a Terry deal that has to hit on ALL pieces. It's probably not a real issue but again in a deal like this you don't get partial credit so I'd be very adverse to that risk.

I look at Jarvis and that's where I want the package to start.

This is horrible horrible horrible every single thing about it. GIBSON IS NOT BEING TRADED TO A DIVISION RIVAL GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS. Pujuljarvi is not worth a bag of pucks. Lundestrom is worth and will get more than that. absolutely LAUGHABLE overpayment for Necas, the Calgary trade makes zero sense, that pick will be a late first round we do not need that much dead cap in a rebuild. This is abysmal

Hey buddy, Jarvis isn’t getting moved so you can scratch that name off your list.

I understand Jarvis is not available. With that said, you asked me what it would take to get Terry and my response was that Terry is not available either. So if you want me to move a guy I don't want to move it's going to take a hell of an offer.

If you look at the entire Ducks organization Terry is the one and only legit 1st line winger that they have. There are a bunch of guys that I would categorize as "top 6" players, on that bubble between a 2nd liner and a 1st. Then there are a couple of prospects that are a maybe but certainly not sure fire can't miss kids. To trade Terry I need to replace what he is... a legit 1st line winger. The guy on the Canes side that can do that is Jarvis and if that's a deal breaker so be it. I didn't want to trade Terry in the first place.

lmaoooo

That's what I want too, and I expect some of that to happen, just maybe not to the extent I laid it out.