Can we Do Both

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Created by: Rooster

Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 29, 2022

Published: Jun. 29, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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This is entirely unrealistic, nor do I think the Sens from a cap perspective should even attempt this, but do we have the assets to acquire both Fiala and DeBrincat? Deals done in the summer of 2022, but I'm doing 23-24 season for signing purposes.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
DeBrincat, Alex	7	$9,000,000
Fiala, Kevin	5	$7,000,000
Formenton, Alex	4	$2,000,000
Joseph, Mathieu	4	$2,400,000
Norris, Joshua	7	$7,800,000
Pinto, Shane	3	$4,000,000
Stützle, Tim	8	$9,000,000
Brännström, Erik	2	$1,200,000
Kastelic, Mark	2	$925,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Holden, Nick	1	$1,200,000
Zub, Artem	7	$5,000,000
Watson, Austin	3	$1,000,000

Trades

OTT

DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]

Additional Details:

This is the trade proposed in today's The Athletic article. https://theathletic.com/3385777/2022/06/29/alex-debrincat-trade-senators-blackhawks/

CHI

Bernard-Docker, Jacob [RFA Rights]
Greig, Ridly
Murray, Matt ($1,550,000 retained)
2022 1st round pick (OTT)
2022 2nd round pick (TBL)

OTT

Fiala, Kevin [RFA Rights]

MIN

Järventie, Roby
2023 1st round pick (OTT)

Additional Details:

Top 10 protected. We've learned from the Duchene fiasco.

OTT

2022 6th round pick (ARI)

ARI

Zaitsev, Nikita
2022 2nd round pick (OTT)

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Colin White: $1,833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Murray: $1,550,000 (33.07%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$84,500,000	$83,148,213	$0	$2,275,000	$1,351,787

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
DeBrincat, Alex $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Stützle, Tim $9,000,000$9,000,000 C UFA - 8	Fiala, Kevin $7,000,000$7,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 6
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 5	Norris, Joshua $7,800,000$7,800,000 C UFA - 7	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
Formenton, Alex $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW RFA	Pinto, Shane $4,000,000$4,000,000 C RFA - 1	Joseph, Mathieu $2,400,000$2,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Kelly, Parker $762,500$762,500 LW RFA - 1
	Kastelic, Mark $925,000$925,000 C, RW RFA - 2	Watson, Austin $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 5	Thomson, Lassi $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) RD RFA - 1	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($1,850,000$2M) LD UFA - 1	Zub, Artem $5,000,000$5,000,000 RD UFA - 4	Søgaard, Mads $925,000$925,000 G RFA - 1
	Brännström, Erik $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD/RD, LW RFA - 1
Holden, Nick $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD UFA

Special Teams

Power Play 1
DeBrincat, A.		Norris, J.		Tkachuk, B.
	Chabot, T.		Stützle, T.

Power Play 2
Fiala, K.		Pinto, S.		Batherson, D.
	Brännström, E.		Thomson, L.

Penalty Kill 1
	Formenton, A.	Joseph, M.
	Holden, N.	Zub, A.

Penalty Kill 2
	Stützle, T.	Pinto, S.
	Sanderson, J.	Thomson, L.

Jun. 29, 2022 at 1:55 p.m.

zizougaffar

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I think Fiala's trade would need more if the pick is top 10 protected, maybe add another prospect like Sokolov or a second

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Jun. 29, 2022 at 2:00 p.m.

Rooster

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Quoting: zizougaffar

I think Fiala's trade would need more if the pick is top 10 protected, maybe add another prospect like Sokolov or a second

Next year's draft is a lot better than this year's so I'd want some level of protection. I'd even be ok with a top 3 protected. Really, i just don't want to lose out on Bedard if we tank again next year.

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Jun. 29, 2022 at 2:10 p.m.

zizougaffar

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Quoting: backpacker10

Oh yeah I definitely agree, it's just that if it's top 10 protected, the 1st isn't as valuable to the Wild as offering them the 7th overall of this season, unless they see the next draft better than anyone in this draft

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Jun. 29, 2022 at 2:14 p.m.

IcemanJoe

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Quoting: zizougaffar

I think you’re correct here. BG would love a 2023 first but having to wait until 2024 would be tough. Might have to make contingency plans if pick is protected MN gets 2024 first and a 2023 2nd and MN sends a 2024 2nd back or something like that.

Jun. 29, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.

Digitalbooya06

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Quoting: zizougaffar

I think Fiala's trade would need more if the pick is top 10 protected, maybe add another prospect like Sokolov or a second

Try Pinto or Grieg.

Jun. 29, 2022 at 3:06 p.m.

zizougaffar

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Quoting: Digitalbooya06

Try Pinto or Grieg.

Greig there's a possibility, but there is no way they trade Pinto unless it's for a player of Debrincat or Pasternak caliber

Jun. 29, 2022 at 3:47 p.m.

EccE

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A first and Järventie is the ideal deal when the pick is the #7 overall. If you move it back a year AND add protection, the prospect needs to be substantially better.

Jun. 29, 2022 at 3:49 p.m.

Rockshu

Joined: Jun. 2022

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This is very cool. and a strong roster I think the only unreasonable piece is hoping that Ottawa could/would spend that much.

Jun. 29, 2022 at 7:36 p.m.

Aussie_Blackhawk

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I know that was discussed in the article but its not a good move for CHI. The prospects aren't High End and 7OA in this draft class don't do justice for what the CAT is IMO.

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