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Using Fiala as the benchmark

Created by: joshelkin
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 29, 2022
Published: Jun. 29, 2022
Team: 2022-23 New York Islanders
Team Explanation
Toying around. Any of these look good?
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Miller, J.T.
VAN
    #13 overall
    Simon Holmstrom
    Scott Mayfield
    2.
    NYI
    1. Boeser, Brock [RFA Rights]
    VAN
      #13 overall
      Kieffer Bellows
      Bode Wilde
      3.
      NYI
      1. Nylander, William
      TOR
        #13 overall
        Scott Mayfield
        Kieffer Bellows
        4.
        NYI
          Filip Forsberg (sign-and-trade) $8.5x8
          NSH
            #64 overall
            Contingent 2023 3rd
            Kieffer Bellows
            5.
            NYI
            1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
            EDM
              #64 overall
              Kieffer Bellows
              6.
              NYI
              1. Anderson, Josh
              MTL
                Josh Bailey

                (Taste of reality)
                Buyouts
                • Rick DiPietro: $0
                Buried
                • Richard Pánik: $250,000 ($1,375,000)
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                ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
                21$82,500,000$88,202,329$245,796$1,287,500-$5,702,329
                Left WingCenterRight Wing
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                Lee, Anders
                $7,000,000
                LW, C
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                UFA - 4
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                Barzal, Mathew
                $7,000,000
                C
                RFA - 1
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                Palmieri, Kyle
                $5,000,000
                RW, LW
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                UFA - 3
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                Beauvillier, Anthony
                $4,150,000
                LW, RW
                UFA - 2
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                Nelson, Brock
                $6,000,000
                C, LW
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                UFA - 3
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                Bailey, Josh
                $5,000,000
                RW, LW
                UFA - 2
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                Martin, Matt
                $1,500,000
                LW, RW
                UFA - 2
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                Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
                $5,000,000
                C
                NTC
                UFA - 4
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                Clutterbuck, Cal
                $1,750,000
                RW
                UFA - 2
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                Johnston, Ross
                $1,100,000
                LW
                UFA - 4
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                Cizikas, Casey
                $2,500,000
                C
                UFA - 5
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                Wahlstrom, Oliver
                $894,167
                RW, C
                RFA - 1
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                Parise, Zach
                $750,000
                LW
                UFA - 1
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                Nylander, William
                $6,962,366
                RW, LW
                UFA - 2
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                Miller, J.T.
                $5,250,000
                LW, C
                UFA - 1
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                Anderson, Josh
                $5,500,000
                RW, LW
                NTC
                UFA - 5
                Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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                Pelech, Adam
                $5,750,000
                LD
                NTC
                UFA - 7
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                Pulock, Ryan
                $6,150,000
                RD
                NTC
                UFA - 8
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                Varlamov, Semyon
                $5,000,000
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                UFA - 1
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                Mayfield, Scott
                $1,450,000
                RD
                UFA - 1
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                Sorokin, Ilya
                $4,000,000
                G
                UFA - 2

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                Jun. 29 at 9:50 p.m.
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                Quoting: odyssey
                i made a mock roster using the trade you made, check it out. what the leafs can do with it is bonkers


                Some of the other stuff is definitely very optimistic lol. But at the bare minimum I think a trade like that makes sense for you guys because you’re filling a couple areas of need while freeing up the cap to replace what you lost in Nylander
                Jun. 29 at 9:51 p.m.
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                Quoting: joshelkin
                Some of the other stuff is definitely very optimistic lol. But at the bare minimum I think a trade like that makes sense for you guys because you’re filling a couple areas of need while freeing up the cap to replace what you lost in Nylander


                the draft selections were very optimistic
                Jun. 29 at 9:55 p.m.
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                Quoting: joshelkin
                Because in this scenario NSH is content letting him go to market and potentially leave for nothing. So you take what you can get, and in this case it’s a pretty good offer


                You're basically offering negotiating rights before he hits UFA value. If NSH gets Forsberg's name on an eight year contract at a reasonable cap hit, his trade value is out of NYI's price range.

                Quoting: Isles5513
                Sign and Trade so it’s really an overpay. But it’s a bad idea
                anyway. Also Bellows isn’t a scrub.


                Bellows is a 24 year old bottom six forward, that can't earn a consistent spot in the lineup of a struggling team. He's not much of an asset.
                Jun. 29 at 10:07 p.m.
                #29
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                You know what's the difference between fiala and anderson ? One had to be traded and other shouldn't be traded, how's that for a "taste of reality" ? We want anderson and we certainly aren't looking to trade him so unless a GM really wants him and is willing to massively overpay he's staying in montreal
                Jun. 29 at 10:08 p.m.
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                Quoting: gmgb
                You're basically offering negotiating rights before he hits UFA value. If NSH gets Forsberg's name on an eight year contract at a reasonable cap hit, his trade value is out of NYI's price range.



                Bellows is a 24 year old bottom six forward, that can't earn a consistent spot in the lineup of a struggling team. He's not much of an asset.


                He plays well when he gets in the lineup. The fact Trotz sat him to play Ross Johnston isn’t his fault.
                Jun. 29 at 10:22 p.m.
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                Quoting: SMH
                You know what's the difference between fiala and anderson ? One had to be traded and other shouldn't be traded, how's that for a "taste of reality" ? We want anderson and we certainly aren't looking to trade him so unless a GM really wants him and is willing to massively overpay he's staying in montreal


                Believe me I want nothing more than for him to stay in Montreal
                Jun. 30 at 12:22 a.m.
                #32
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                Quoting: joshelkin
                Believe me I want nothing more than for him to stay in Montreal


                Nice, we have something in common
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                Jun. 30 at 7:00 a.m.
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                Quoting: joshelkin
                To keep the AAV down (and prevent him from getting to the open market) I am very much in favor of paying to lock him in. We need a legit scorer on this team. Assuming NSH is ready to let him reach the open market they should whatever they can get


                Id be extremely wary of filip forsberg, his production this year is extremely unsustainable. He was in the 96th percentile in goals scored above expected and shot 5% higher than his career average. Signing him to an expensive deal till hes 36 is exactly the reason the roster looks the way it does. Overpaying guys after unsustainable career years till theyre in their later 30s is how we got here in the 1st place.
                 
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