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Islesforthecup

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Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:41 pm
Thread: Beauviller
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>You just described every habs fan trying to over hype Drouin's Value .


Given Beau's stats actually are damn near identical to Armia's head to head
While Drouin head to head Drouins out paced him
Corsi and Fenwick % are a mile apart in favor of Drouin.


Where Beauviller(24%) stands out over Armia(18%) and Drouin(18%) is his Goal Scoring only
Beauvillier unlike them also has no injury issues playing as many games as possible each season(big upside if they're young and health Goal scorer's for sure)

But we're not talking 1st line guy here unless you're running a system with no true #1 line like MTL does

All im saying is Beavuillier isnt some elite 1st line Wing player.
He's a middle 6 guy with the potential to mature into that role on a team with no true #1 winger prospect for that role.

He's good but he's smaller , less experienced and 22 career Power Play Points (drouin had 34 by age 21 (2 years younger)
We're not talking about a 50+ point player in Beauvillier
Similar to a Andrew Shaw he might get close enough to touch it once but thats it

https://stathead.com/hockey/pcomp_finder.cgi?player_id2=drouijo01&amp;player_id1=beauvan01&amp;sum=0&amp;request=1

https://stathead.com/hockey/pcomp_finder.cgi?player_id2=armiajo01&amp;player_id1=beauvan01&amp;sum=0&amp;request=1</div></div>

Youre kidding me. A middle 6 guy?

1. He was on pace for 50 points this year
2. He is above average in every category, is an elite skater, and is really smart. Hes also very young.
3. Its not really fair to compare points when a guy is playing for trotz. I mean barzy averages 60-65 points a season when hes a ppg player with any other coach (besides torts). Point being beauvillier is a 60 point player on a team where hes allowed to take a few chances and that focuses a little on offense.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 11:30 am
Thread: Barzy needs wingers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yesyesyes2020</b></div><div>One thing I’m concerned about signing both laine and landeskog(other than laine’s fit) is that it will handicap us cap wise. We still need to sign Dobson next year and sorokin will be paid like a top starter within the next couple of years plus wahlstrom is going to need a deal too soon and I believe he will be better suited for the rw1 role than laine. Not just because of his ability to score but the fact that he’s bought into Trotz’s system and has made developing his defensive game a priority.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles777</b></div><div>I think anyone who has scored 40 goals twice is going to get overpaid based on reputation. Hoffman has never scored 40 - it was rumored he wanted 9-10 mill so I don’t think he’s signing anything more than a short term deal until he gets that kind of money</div></div>

Theres also the possibility of signing him for 2x7 and walk him to fa. That way when barzal/wahlstrom need new contracts he'll be off the books.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 11:28 am
Thread: Barzy needs wingers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yesyesyes2020</b></div><div>One thing I’m concerned about signing both laine and landeskog(other than laine’s fit) is that it will handicap us cap wise. We still need to sign Dobson next year and sorokin will be paid like a top starter within the next couple of years plus wahlstrom is going to need a deal too soon and I believe he will be better suited for the rw1 role than laine. Not just because of his ability to score but the fact that he’s bought into Trotz’s system and has made developing his defensive game a priority.</div></div>

The cap works next year. Im hoping by 23-24 the cap will start to move again. I also think that year will work but i havent spent time on that. If you want ill make follow up acgms to show how the cap works. If the cap is still 81.5 in 23-24 a big contract would have to go.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 11:19 am
Thread: Barzy needs wingers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>slapshot723</b></div><div>Oh no doubt. If we bring in Landeskog, he should be on the first line with Barzal over Lee. But I think Laine is the wrong guy to get on the other side. Palmieri would be a better fit there than Laine, plus it saves a lot more $.</div></div>

Im very scared about palmieri. Thinking ladd 2.0 after a couple years. Hes still got 1-2 years as a solid middle 6 guy but i dont think this years decline was an outlier. I think its the beginning of the end for him.
In terms of laine he has the talent to be a superstar, his attitude is whats hurt him imo. I think on a team with great leadership maybe he'll get his act together. Also getting to play with a guy like barzal is any snipers dream. He will also tremendously help a bad pp.
As you can tell im still a big laine fan and now is an opportunity to buy low imo.