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Forum: Armchair-GM1 hour ago

Thread: Kadri based on rumors of 7x7

Thats a massive overpay for dobson

Forum: Armchair-GM4 hours ago

Thread: full turnaround

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Islanders say no. Romanov and Sorokin are best friends forever. Lou overpaid to acquire Romanov so that Sorokin would take all the islanders money. They aren’t trading him.

Also I think that’s an overpay for Keller anyway. Dude had a season ending injury and I’d like to see him play again before I would consider trading for him.</div></div>

Lou didnt overpay smdh 22yo top 4 dmen dont come cheap

Forum: Armchair-GM4 hours ago

Thread: Uncle Lou back at it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheTypicalLeafsFan</b></div><div>Towes, Palmieri, romonov karri at 7 years, pauge</div></div>

Really?
1st i already said toews i asked for any other bad deals that werent that trade.
Kadri, hasnt been signed so idk how you could say that was a bad move when there wasnt any move made smdh.
Romanov is a 22yo top 4 dman. Trading 13oa in a weak draft for him is a win not to mention getting isaiah george in the process. Not really sure how you could spin this any other way.
Palmieri i wont comment on yet as im not sure if youre referring to the trade or the signing.
As for JGP im not really sure how you could say trading a very late 1st for this guy is a bad deal. And if you meant the extension id say the same thing.
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Forum: Armchair-GM5 hours ago

Thread: Uncle Lou back at it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheTypicalLeafsFan</b></div><div>Just typical lou moves</div></div>

This is such a tired narrative. Lou made 1 terrible move with nyi otherwise hes been very good.aside from the toews trade (and to a much lesser extent the komarov signing) can you please tell me a bad move that lou has made.

Forum: Armchair-GM9 hours ago

Thread: Most underrated players

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>Do you watch kerfoot at all? I wouldn't agree with that whatsoever. So when he was a 0.5 ppg+ player on Colorado playing with compher and Jost and Andrighetto, who was doing the play driving?

His scoring is fine for 2 w or 3 c, especially when you consider its essentially all at even strength.

In the 3 years since he got to Toronto he has 92 even strength points.

On the islanders that would tie him for third. Only Barzal (124) and Nelson (116) have more.</div></div>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Points can be deceiving <a href="https://t.co/h1PAqiiDf0" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">pic.twitter.com/h1PAqiiDf0</a></p>— Ethan Shuter (<a href="/users/islesforthecup" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@islesforthecup</a>) <a href="https://twitter.com/islesforthecup/status/1558987781275357185?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">August 15, 2022</a></blockquote>

Points arent everything. Im sorry you dont agree with that whatsoever but unfortunately thats the reality.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 hours ago

Thread: Most underrated players

Kerfoot is a defense only winger who can play C. Hes literally one of the worst offensive play drivers in the league.
Girard is an ok play driver who has much better results bc of the system he plays in and bc he plays with elite teammates. Girard is overrated and kerfoot us what he is, a 3.5m 3rd line shutdown guy.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 hours ago

Thread: 3 year plan with Chytil part two

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mvp13</b></div><div>Miller gets a matching bridge deal that Lindgren got, who plays a larger role on the team.

What has Lafreniere done to warrant more than 4mil? Even if he does break out this year, still only one year of solid production. Poolparty and Yamamotto had two pretty good years playing with insanely better offensively taleneted players and didn't even get 4mil. Outside of being a #1 overall pick, why does Laffy deserve more than 4mil right now?</div></div>

Yamamoto put up 40 points this year and 33 (per 82 games) last year playing with the best player on the planet. That a terrible comparison for laf if he puts up say 20-30-50.

As for miller hes a much better player than lindgren as well as the fact that the lindgren deal was a steal.
Not just that but already miller plays a bigger role than lindgren.
Lindgren ATOI
2019-20 he averaged 16:34 a game
2020-21 he averaged 20:00 a game
Then he signed his contract
2021-22 he averaged 20:06 a game

Miller ATOI
2020-21 he averaged 21:07 a game
2021-22 he averaged 20:36 a game mostly due to the emergence of schneider. Id be really surprised if he isnt above 21 minutes a game next year.
He is a lot better than lindgren was when he signed and even that was an underpayment.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 hours ago

Thread: Zatisev swap for Byron and Allen to VGK

You are not allowed to make picks conditional on players resigning.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 1:31 a.m.

Thread: 3 year plan with Chytil part two

Double

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 1:31 a.m.

Thread: 3 year plan with Chytil part two

No way miller takes that. And depending on how he performs playing with mika and kreider that might not be enough for laf either.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:12 p.m.

Thread: Top 20 Defensemen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cMac73</b></div><div>I know a little bit of analytical stats but I don’t really know what that means and I don’t go off of that anyway</div></div>

The point is basically rielly might play a lot of minutes but it doesnt mean hes effective in those minutes.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 5:38 p.m.

Thread: Top 20 Defensemen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cMac73</b></div><div>I’m not doing just pure two way game but guys like Rielly aren’t playing sheltered minutes at all. He’s the leafs number one dman, and puts up good results and good offense.</div></div>

I mean jfresh says rielly is in the 34th percentile in overall war. Thats not good at all. On the other hand pulock is in the 91st percentile in war.

Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 5:28 a.m.

Thread: Line in the sand

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>I mean Tkachuk also fetched an all star, a top pair d man and a good prospect. I’m really not misrepresenting anything cause I don’t have to. Romanov hasn’t done anything to prove he is worth the 13th pick. But he’s tight with Sorokin so I can’t really complain that much. I like the player but I don’t love the trade 🤷‍♂️</div></div>

Yeah and fiala got a top prospect while romanov didnt even get 13 straight up as they had to send 98 back. Youre saying if the kings had sent 15 and we sent 16 you wouldnt have a problem with it, thats crazy.
Also he certainly is worth 13, ffs hes a 22yo top 4 dman. How is he not worth 13?

Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 12:58 a.m.

Thread: Top 20 Defensemen

I may be biased but if youre talking 2 way play wheres pulock? Also rielly? Hes a massive liability defensively, like literally in the 1st percentile in 5v5 defensive war. And dahlin is also not good defensively at all. Like i get josi and hughes at least their offense makes up for it but those 2 should certainly not be on a 2 way defenseman list.

Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 12:46 a.m.

Thread: penance for fluery

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ehlersisbetterthennylander</b></div><div>y

You sure it's an overpay? Think of what arizona got for kuemper and the islanders are taking on brossoit</div></div>

Yeah its true but
1, there was a chance that kuemper could be resigned as he was 31. Varly is 35 so hes really a straight up rental.
2, stephenson is worth a lot more than timmins, and
3, arizona had all the leverage as they really didnt need to move kuemper. As much as VGK is desperate the isles could use that cap space. Plus ARI retained kuemper to 3.5 isles cant retain on varly.
I made an acgm saying the minimum i would take for varly is a top 3 protected 1st and brossoit but this is an overpay.

Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 12:41 a.m.

Thread: Line in the sand

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>I mean Romanov got a higher pick than Fiala… doesn’t seem like that was necessary</div></div>

Are you for real rn????? Romanov got a better pick most probably than tkachuk as well. Are you going to try to spin it so that romanov went for more than tkachuk or only fiala? When you resort to blatantly misrepresenting things its obvious your grasping at straws. Fiala got a very good prospect as well whole romanov sent back pick 98.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 9:03 p.m.

Thread: Sicheashin

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Redguard191</b></div><div>Shedding cap costs a lot this offseason. Go look at every cap dump and how the return sucks. Vegas isn't as desperate as you make it seem.</div></div>

Oh right i forgot bc star goalie cory schneider is still available. Who exactly is going to be in net for VGK that makes anybody feel confident that they can make the playoffs.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 9:00 p.m.

Thread: Line in the sand

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>I mean Guerrin didn’t draft Kaprizov but he “brought him over.” Not really sure how much credit Lou deserves for signing the guys he ****ing inherited.</div></div>

All i said is lou got him to NA when snow couldnt do it. Give him as little or as much credit as you think he deserves. Sorokin couldve been the best goalie of all time, but if he wouldve been with CSKA it wouldntve meant a damn thing.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 8:58 p.m.

Thread: Line in the sand

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Based on all 3 games he coached last year I think Lambert seems far less rigid than Trotz lol</div></div>

Oh right 3 games where trotz was still telling him what to do. Seems like youre seeing what you want to see and believing what you want to be true.
Smdh judging someone on a 3 game sample size

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 8:56 p.m.

Thread: Line in the sand

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>I mean he traded Toews for two seconds…. And then traded the 13th pick for Romanov two years later….</div></div>

How many times do you want me to say it nobody is denying the toews trade was horrible. But that doesmt mean every other move was. You keep talking about it like its an obsession. The romanov trade has nothing to do with the toews trade. And trying to say the romanov trade was bad bc he got more than toews is crazy.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 8:53 p.m.

Thread: penance for fluery

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Well most of that will be eaten by the pending RFA's. Then there is the Kadri rumours. I personally believe he will be signing there and that the reports of Lou trying to move cap are accurate. A trade of Varly to Vegas for Brossoit and a pick is mutually beneficial, however the above proposal is just absurd</div></div>

Yes stephenson amd a 1st is quite the overpay but the kadri rumors are just that, rumors.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 3:51 a.m.

Thread: penance for fluery

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>That's an absurd overpay for a team that is pretty desperate to cut cap space right now</div></div>

Considering they have 11m in cap space i dont think theyre very desperate.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 2:34 a.m.

Thread: Line in the sand

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Barzals skillset is best suited for center and he’s spoken about taking pride in being a center who can play with anyone and in all 3 zones. If they ask him to move to wing to accommodate Kadri he will likely Tkachuk his way out of here next offseason</div></div>

Again im not saying i think they <strong>should</strong> move him to W. Im saying if they sign kadri i think they will move him to W.
Also maybe hes on board with the switch if you read my earlier comment i go into this in more depth.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 2:25 a.m.

Thread: Line in the sand

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Clearly I’m not the only one who disagrees with you. It makes no sense to bring in a new coach for Barzal than make him play a different position… smh.</div></div>

Whats this notion that they brought in a new coach for barzal??? Lambert practically built the system that trotz used. I also said if youve been reading that <strong>I want barzy at C</strong> but i think the org asks him to move to W.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 2:23 a.m.

Thread: Line in the sand

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Do you honestly think the guy who traded Devon Toews for two second round picks is in charge of the draft? Hell the dude overpaid to get romanov too smh. Only reason I’m not gonna rip him a new one for that is because of Romanov’s friendship with Sorokin. Also maybe Romanov figures it out next to Dobson. Idk.</div></div>

Wth? Romanov wasnt an overpay. It wasnt a steal but 22yo top 4 dmen dont come around often and when they do you pounce. Also i love how when lou makes a good move its luck but when he makes a bad move its bc hes terrible. It really shows your hypocrisy.

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