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Otter

Created by: Random2152
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 30, 2022
Published: Jun. 30, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
Simple idea. I didn't bother making other trades as they aren't the point. I just filled out the roster with guys who are going to make a push for roster spots this year. We will have additional space and assets even in this scenario with which to improve (3M of space + the aav of the guys they'd be replacing on the roster).

Dallas can match IF they do nothing else this off season, but if they try to keep or replace Klingberg that presents an opportunity to strike on the cheap. Reportedly contract talks are not going well between them and Otter so far.

OS don't happen so this is unrealistic but quite frankely I really do think it is one of the better possible solutions in net if we can actually pull it off
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Oettinger, Jake5$6,300,000
Engvall, Pierre2$1,750,000
Kase, Ondrej2$1,750,000
Sandin, Rasmus2$1,400,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Oettinger, Jake$6,300,000
2023 1st round pick
2023 3rd round pick
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,500,000$79,551,450$212,500$0$2,948,550
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Kase, Ondrej
$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Anderson, Joey
$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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Engvall, Pierre
$1,750,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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Robertson, Nicholas
$796,667
LW
RFA - 2
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Holmberg, Pontus
$827,500
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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Steeves, Alex
$834,167
C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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Sandin, Rasmus
$1,400,000
LD
RFA
Oettinger, Jake
$6,300,000
G
RFA
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Källgren, Erik
$750,000
G
RFA - 1
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Giordano, Mark
$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Liljegren, Timothy
$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
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Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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Clifford, Kyle
$762,500 ($0)
LW
UFA - 2

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Jun. 30 at 8:53 a.m.
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Edited Jun. 30 at 8:58 a.m.
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The premise of the agm is if:
Dallas signs Klinger or some equivalent (might as well use klinger since he's already there).

I am aware that they are fine if they dont. Next time consider reading the description.

Reports are coming in that contract negotiations are not going well with otter. They may drag out.

Again, read the desc. Ffs.


This entire exchange is rendered pointless by you being literate and reading the helpfully provided description. Please use it in the future.


I read the description, I’m using common sense. If Jim Nill favours a basically 30 year old, one way dman, who wants a big contract til he’s 38 over a franchise goalie who was the only reason the Stars didn’t get swept. He should 100% be sent to work at any 7/11 cuz he isn’t fit for the job as a GM.

I’m pretty sure you used the Seravalli article of “OS candidates”, and if you did Otter is right above Sandin. So we’re in the same boat as you guys, chances are that they get locked up before FA.

OS don’t happen often and successful ones even less, only two I can think of are Penner and KK.
Jun. 30 at 8:57 a.m.
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I read the description, I’m using common sense. If Jim Nill favours a basically 30 year old, one way dman, who wants a big contract til he’s 38 over a franchise goalie who was the only reason the Stars didn’t get swept. He should 100% be sent to work at any 7/11 cuz he isn’t fit for the job as a GM.


That's a fine postion to take and one I agree with, but that isn't reality or relevant to this agm
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Jun. 30 at 9:11 a.m.
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Exactly. Literally the best case scenario for Dallas. That is my whole, entire point of this. If they go for klinger or equivalent, they open themselves up for a very real and dangerous OS threat that requires them to thread many needles to navigate safely.

Anyway OS aren't real so whatever.


Best case scenario is saving 600k on a backup goalie? 41% vs 43% is the exact same as betting Player vs Banker (respectively) on Baccarat. I can literally just switch it to Tokarski, Greiss, Comrie, Stalock, or Holtby and this argument is instantly nullified. You are reeeeeeaaaaaaaaalllly reaching here
Jun. 30 at 9:22 a.m.
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Best case scenario is saving 600k on a backup goalie? 41% vs 43% is the exact same as betting Player vs Banker (respectively) on Baccarat. I can literally just switch it to Tokarski, Greiss, Comrie, Stalock, or Holtby and this argument is instantly nullified. You are reeeeeeaaaaaaaaalllly reaching here


500k each on a 20man roster is 10 million.
Yes these best case scenarios matter lmao. Come on you're being ridiculous
Jun. 30 at 9:26 a.m.
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500k each on a 20man roster is 10 million.
Yes these best case scenarios matter lmao. Come on you're being ridiculous


I'm being ridiculous? You are complaining about a realistic signing of a freaking backup goalie. I even provided 5 examples of goalies very likely to sign for 1-1.45M according to Evolving Hockey QJjFo8R.png
Jun. 30 at 9:32 a.m.
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I'm being ridiculous? You are complaining about a realistic signing of a freaking backup goalie. I even provided 5 examples of goalies very likely to sign for 1-1.45M according to Evolving Hockey QJjFo8R.png


I'm talking about a lot more than one goalie lmao. Jesus you really struggle to keep up with a convo
Jun. 30 at 9:41 a.m.
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I'm talking about a lot more than one goalie lmao. Jesus you really struggle to keep up with a convo


I mean you literally erased over half my post and only quoted the part about Wedgewood so I figured it was about that. I responded accordingly about Wedgewood and you then responded back again about that.

If it was not about the backup goalie then who else did I underpay? Was I supposed to sign some random bottom 6er to an albatross contract? All you are doing is being very vague with your arguments and not disproving anything I say.
Jun. 30 at 9:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
I mean you literally erased over half my post and only quoted the part about Wedgewood so I figured it was about that. I responded accordingly about Wedgewood and you then responded back again about that.

If it was not about the backup goalie then who else did I underpay? Was I supposed to sign some random bottom 6er to an albatross contract? All you are doing is being very vague with your arguments and not disproving anything I say.


I have already said multiple times. The reason I 'just ignored' most of your post is because all I did was confirm, again what I was saying - for the 10th time. You aren't paying attention. We are talking in circles and going nowhere. This isn't productive.

You have so thoroughly missed the point it's absurd. Have a good day
Jun. 30 at 10:07 a.m.
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I have already said multiple times. The reason I 'just ignored' most of your post is because all I did was confirm, again what I was saying - for the 10th time. You aren't paying attention. We are talking in circles and going nowhere. This isn't productive.

You have so thoroughly missed the point it's absurd. Have a good day


Lol the only reason we are talking in circles is because you are providing strawman arguments to my facts. Like I literally built a realistic team proving the cap works in all your scenarios.
 
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