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Wings Decline. You're trying to shed salary not getting Rasmussen plus picks

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Jul. 1, 2022 at 10:36 a.m.

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Wings Decline. You're trying to shed salary not getting Rasmussen plus picks

Wrong. Wings 100% accept. You need an LHD like Pettersson, first off ,which won't come cheap despite what some AGM's do here. Pettersson is 100% worth a 2nd+.

Kapanen is a good fit for a team like yours on the rise. He'll probably sign a prove-it deal.

Jul. 1, 2022 at 10:51 a.m.

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I'm telling you. Zero chance. Petterson comes with term over 4 mil per year for a 3rd pairing Dman. You're getting a 3rd rounder and that's being generous.

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Jul. 1, 2022 at 10:57 a.m.

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Pet is not getting you a 2nd. He’s worth a late 3rd at best, and with recent reports of PIT trying to shed his cap easily less. KK is not a Center and Ras is not a great Center, but with DET’s weak C depth im not trading Ras for KK. Both should be removed and not be picks altered.

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Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:05 a.m.

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Nah

Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:06 a.m.

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I'm telling you. Zero chance. Petterson comes with term over 4 mil per year for a 3rd pairing Dman. You're getting a 3rd rounder and that's being generous.

Yeah, who wants a very good 2nd pairing dman signed to a reasonable contract lol.

Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:11 a.m.

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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki

Yeah, who wants a very good 2nd pairing dman signed to a reasonable contract lol.

Why is Pitt trading him then 😂😂😂😂

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Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:11 a.m.

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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki

Nah

DET still says Nah.

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Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:12 a.m.

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Why is Pitt trading him then 😂😂😂😂

We can thank Rutherford for that mess. We have a glut of LHDs and need to free up space. We're lucky to have all good ones, so you unfortunately have to trade your most trade-able asset. We're not in a position to have three LHD's at $4M.

Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:13 a.m.

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DET still says Nah.

If you think a very good 2nd pairing dman who's not entering his prime years isn't worth at least a 2nd, then talking hockey with you is useless. DET says yes, you're yeah, you're wrong. Very wrong.

Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:16 a.m.

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For those who don't understand hockey. Here's a little insight from one of the top analytics guys...

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$4M for a 26 year old dman for three years. That's easily worth a 2nd.

Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:17 a.m.

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That’s perfectly logical. Why would Detroit give up max assets then? They wouldn’t a late 3rd round pick is perfectly reasonable to ask a team to take on 4 mil in their cap for the next 3 years

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Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:23 a.m.

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That’s perfectly logical. Why would Detroit give up max assets then? They wouldn’t a late 3rd round pick is perfectly reasonable to ask a team to take on 4 mil in their cap for the next 3 years

Max assets? Listen, Rasmussen is a nice piece, but he's not a top asset by any stretch. He likely never amounts to more than a good 3rd liner, which is fine, but let's not act like he's some major piece.

The funny logic that happens on this board is if you like a player then trading for a player with term is looked at as value and if you don't like him, then it's not. $4M for a very good 2nd pairing dman is good value no matter who we're talking about.

If you look up at some back up info I posted from Andy & Romo, it shows what you're getting. He's also 26, so he's now in his prime. So three years for a dman who's tops in what he does for $4M? That has value.

So, you fill a major need which unfortunately for any team means you have to give to get. Pettersson is likely worth a 2nd plus a mid-level prospect, so in this case you give up a pretty good young player in Rasmussen and 3rd, then give up a 4th for some potential in Kap.

EDIT: Let's also realize that you guys are no longer in this collecting prospects/picks phase. Stevie is about to get aggressive to take your team into being a playoff team.

Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:29 a.m.

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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki

Max assets? Listen, Rasmussen is a nice piece, but he's not a top asset by any stretch. He likely never amounts to more than a good 3rd liner, which is fine, but let's not act like he's some major piece.

The funny logic that happens on this board is if you like a player then trading for a player with term is looked at as value and if you don't like him, then it's not. $4M for a very good 2nd pairing dman is good value no matter who we're talking about.

Rasmussen is a cheap player who just had a career year for himself after being moved to the wing. There is no way he's going to be added to a deal as a sweetener for a player that the opposing team knows they're actively trying to offload.

If you look up at some back up info I posted from Andy & Romo, it shows what you're getting. He's also 26, so he's now in his prime. So three years for a dman who's tops in what he does for $4M? That has value.

So, you fill a major need which unfortunately for any team means you have to give to get. Pettersson is likely worth a 2nd plus a mid-level prospect, so in this case you give up a pretty good young player in Rasmussen and 3rd, then give up a 4th for some potential in Kap.

EDIT: Let's also realize that you guys are no longer in this collecting prospects/picks phase. Stevie is about to get aggressive to take your team into being a playoff team.

Jul. 1, 2022 at 11:40 a.m.

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For those who don't understand hockey. Here's a little insight from one of the top analytics guys...

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$4M for a 26 year old dman for three years. That's easily worth a 2nd.

GTFO with your “for those that don’t know hockey” and your Yardbarker post from a biased PIT writer that solely is looking at some analytical data but not the big picture. I’ve played hockey (D) consecutively for 23 years, I’m not a fair weather fan who posts biased on here.

From the article “Pet saw his play dip in the 2nd half of season as well as playoffs… Pet found himself as a healthy scratch on occasion in 21-22 season.”

Plenty of Wings fans and PIT fans on here and in countless other posts have mocked and agreed upon Pet for a 3rd already. Multiple in these comments already told you it’s not happening, get off your high horse. DET says no.

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Jul. 1, 2022 at 12:53 p.m.

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Lots of players have peaks and valleys throughout the season. It's not uncommon.

You act like that because random people on a message board means anything in the real world. A hundred wings fans could tell me no and I'm still saying yes.

Jul. 1, 2022 at 1:57 p.m.

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