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JT For Timo

Created by: BlackhawksforLife
Published: Jul. 2, 2022 at 10:35 a.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 185/186 (99%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the San Jose SharksSan Jose Sharks

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Meier, TimoSan Jose SharksNHL-$5,967,742011---0000--
2023 4th round pick (Logo of the San Jose SharksSJS)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Miller, J.T.Vancouver CanucksNHL-$5,221,774011---0000--
2023 2nd round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---010------
2024 5th round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$5,667,5002137503515
Change$745,968000010
Final$6,413,468 (↑)21375036 (↑)15000

Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVancouver Canucks

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Miller, J.T.Vancouver CanucksNHL-$5,221,774011---0000--
2023 2nd round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---010------
2024 5th round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Meier, TimoSan Jose SharksNHL-$5,967,742011---0000--
2023 4th round pick (Logo of the San Jose SharksSJS)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,148,3331937543512
Change-$745,9680000-10
Final$1,402,365 (↓)19375434 (↓)12000
Would both teams do this?
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Jul. 2, 2022 at 10:36 a.m.
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If you don't think this is a fair deal, for which team and why? What would the other team have to give up for it to be even?
Jul. 2, 2022 at 11:20 a.m.
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I don't think either team ever does this, but I think it's a harder no from Van than SJ.

From Van's perspective: Trading away Miller to most other markets, considering the starting price has been set since February, means a young roster player, a prospect with good potential and a 1st rounder, and it sounds like there will be a bidding war at the draft for Miller. You're only getting one of those pieces in Meier, and you're giving up draft capital to do it. Very few teams trade a near 99 point player with centre capability and a 2nd rounder for anything, let alone a more expensive, less consistent winger only 3 years younger that's also on an expiring contract. I like Meier as a player, he's a new age power forward, but this deal is a non starter.

From SJ's perspective: Meier is one of the few younger, high quality pieces on the roster that can transition a rebuilt roster and be a leader once contracts like Couture, Burns, Vlasic and Karlsson come off the books. You don't give that up to get older with where the franchise is at, even if it's acquiring a player like Miller. Plus, if stat trends are anything to be considered, it's going to be much more expensive to extend Miller than Meier, and if Miller falls off around 32-35 but he gets the 6-8 year contract he wants, SJ finds themselves in the same situation they are now, too much money committed to a window that's been slammed shut.
Jul. 3, 2022 at 3:49 p.m.
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hard no from van. Miller is the better player imo, plus they have made it clear that the preferred return for miller is a 1st rounder, prospect, and a roster player preferably a RHD. It also makes no sense for either team as van’s hope is to “re tool” and fill the prospect pool. as for SJ if they ever do trade meier they could get a decent haul of younger players and picks
 
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