Somewhat Realistic V3

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Created by: JSEB93

Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 7, 2022

Published: Jul. 8, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Update for after Letang signing. Hopefully Malkin follows Letangs lead and takes a discount.

My idea of realistic is no Zucker dump and no big trades. As much as I think they should do the Miller trade - I don't actually see it happening. And considering how much Pens would have to give up to get rid of Zucker I think it's just better to keep him for 1 year and hope he can stay healthy.

I think this team is fantastic down the middle and has 3 lines that can score. If healthy Geno goes from Kap and Heinen to Rust and Marchment - who knows what he can do. Defense sees slight change with POJ for Pettersson. Pettersson came into his own, but I don't see this as that much of a downgrade. And for a team that was 5th in goals against, even being a little worse should still be a solid D.

Option B would get Strome to play 3C and use the savings to try and sign a better winger for one of the lines.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier		2	$950,000
Nylander, Alexander		2	$950,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Malkin, Evgeni	3	$6,500,000
Rakell, Rickard	3	$4,500,000
Copp, Andrew	5	$5,250,000
Marchment, Mason	3	$3,750,000

Trades

PIT

2023 3rd round pick (SEA)

SEA

Heinen, Danton [RFA Rights]
Pettersson, Marcus

PIT

2023 7th round pick (VAN)

ARI

McGinn, Brock
2023 5th round pick (PIT)

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $1,916,667

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$80,816,667	$0	$0	$1,683,333

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Rakell, Rickard $4,500,000$4,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 6
Marchment, Mason $3,750,000$3,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Malkin, Evgeni $6,500,000$6,500,000 C UFA - 4	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 6
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Copp, Andrew $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 5	Carter, Jeff $3,125,000$3,125,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 2
O'Connor, Drew $750,000$750,000 LW UFA - 1		Zohorna, Radim $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
	Blueger, Teddy $2,200,000$2,200,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Nylander, Alexander $950,000$950,000 RW, LW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dumoulin, Brian $4,100,000$4,100,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Letang, Kris $6,100,000$6,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 6	Jarry, Tristan $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 1
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Marino, John $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD UFA - 5	DeSmith, Casey $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 2
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $950,000$950,000 LD RFA - 2	Ruhwedel, Chad $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 2
Friedman, Mark $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 2

Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:07 a.m.

Missouri

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Yeah I'd say thats pretty realistic. I would of course hope to get more then a 3rd for Pettersson, but can't always be greedy

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Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:08 a.m.

NotGeorgesLaraque

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Strome is far more realistic than Copp, NYR didn't trade their first two picks to let him walk for 5.25. someone is going to have to OVERPAY. and i don't see why copp would want to leave if the money is close, he played fantastic in NY

Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:19 a.m.

JSEB93

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Quoting: NotGeorgesLaraque

Fair point about the trade - Copp is the obvious questions mark. I would still consider it realistic though. Rangers only have 10mil in cap space with 16 people signed. Kakko, Strome, Copp, Motte, Rooney, Vatrano, Braun and a backup goalie all need to be signed or replacements found. Not to mention next year Chytil, Lafreniere and Miller need to get paid - and they have no big money coming off the books. So it's not that easy for them to keep Copp and they can't exactly get into any bidding wars. Maybe unlikely for Copp to come to Pittsburgh, but I still think it's a realistc option

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Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:20 a.m.

JSEB93

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Quoting: Missouri

Yeah I'd say thats pretty realistic. I would of course hope to get more then a 3rd for Pettersson, but can't always be greedy

Thanks!
Honestly I doubt you get more for Pettersson at this point. I feel like he's a fringe 3rd i terms of value. I figured the Heinen addition solidified the 3rd round pick

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Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:29 a.m.

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This is a sick team, but my nit picky complaint would be that Malkin doesn’t have a shooter on his line. What do you think about that? Not saying that rust is a guy struggles to score but he isn’t a sniper ya know

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Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.

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Quoting: JSEB93

Copp was one of their best players against us in the playoffs I would love to bring him over to the good team

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Jul. 8, 2022 at 10:50 a.m.

Haymaker26

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Quoting: JSEB93

I think it's also worth noting that insiders claim both Copp and Strome intend to hit the open market on the 13th.

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Jul. 8, 2022 at 11:04 a.m.

JSEB93

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Quoting: Hullsy09

Thanks!

That's a fair point. Honestly I'm actually a huge fan of the Guenztel/Malkin/Rust line. Which would fix that issue. But I wasn't sure if bumping Guenztel down would cause a bunch of comments asking why I bumped Guenztel down.

If Guenztel stays on the first line though, you're right he doesn't really have a guy who would be considered a shooter. Maybe bring Copp up to 2C and put Malkin on wing to be the shooter? Or hope Marchment can turn into one - idk.

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Jul. 8, 2022 at 11:05 a.m.

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Quoting: Haymaker26

I think it's also worth noting that insiders claim both Copp and Strome intend to hit the open market on the 13th.

I was unaware - that's good news. Let's hope Malkin signs for 6 and that can give them enough money to go after Copp

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Jul. 8, 2022 at 11:06 a.m.

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Quoting: Hullsy09

Copp was one of their best players against us in the playoffs I would love to bring him over to the good team

Agreed. He looked really good. Which is bad because it probably raises his price lol. But yeah I love his versatility. Can go from playing 1st line LW to 3rd line center in case Carter has issues.

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Jul. 8, 2022 at 11:50 a.m.

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Quoting: JSEB93

Agreed. He looked really good. Which is bad because it probably raises his price lol. But yeah I love his versatility. Can go from playing 1st line LW to 3rd line center in case Carter has issues.

trust me, I WANT Copp to be a Penguin bad, i think his style of play is what the pens are missing, i just hope the rangers can't move trouba and can't retain their talent.

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Jul. 8, 2022 at 11:53 a.m.

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Quoting: NotGeorgesLaraque

trust me, I WANT Copp to be a Penguin bad, i think his style of play is what the pens are missing, i just hope the rangers can't move trouba and can't retain their talent.

Agreed.

And I hope as well. I didn't realize how much of a bad cap situation they are actually in until your comment made me look it up. They're in quite the pickle

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