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fixing defence

Created by: svensk_forskare
Team: 2022-23 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 11, 2022
Published: Jul. 11, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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i honestly think i'm leaving value on the table in all of these trades, except maybe WPG

cap is tight, but opens up next year when Quick's deal expires and Phaneuf's buyout ends
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,500,000
2$2,500,000
2$925,000
Trades
1.
2.
LAK
  1. Dillon, Brenden ($1,900,000 retained)
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retained by Chicago
3.
LAK
  1. 2024 5th round pick (CHI)
Additional Details:
Chicago retains on Dillon
CHI
  1. Björnfot, Tobias
Additional Details:
Chicago retains on Dillon
4.
LAK
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (BUF)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (BUF)
5.
LAK
  1. Nieto, Matt ($425,000 retained)
  2. 2023 7th round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (LAK)
Additional Details:
blatantly overpaying bc the retention fits the cap
Buyouts
Termination Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$79,309,167$637,500$2,132,500$3,190,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,875,000$1,875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$1,550,000$2M)
C
RFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,675,000$1,675,000
C
RFA - 2
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$425,000$425,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$2,650,000$2,650,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 2
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$820,000$820,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 2

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Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:55 p.m.
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should the Kings deal Petersen and look for a solid backup for Quick to mentor or is petersen legit and last year was a fluke?
and sharks would take that offer i would think.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 8:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
should the Kings deal Petersen and look for a solid backup for Quick to mentor or is petersen legit and last year was a fluke?
and sharks would take that offer i would think.


i think he suffered from the defence in front of him... his even strength sv% wasn't so bad, it was PP where we got really overexposed, so if the team can take fewer penalties and kill them off better, i would expect him to bounce back...

plus, with toronto having a goalie making almost $5M now, kuemper probably goes to DC, campbell to EDM, and then nobody else truly needs a $5M goalie, so i dont think we would get very much back, especially considering he has a NTC and could block a deal to buffalo... i think quick is more likely to move, but even that is unlikely bc i think he would want to finish in LA like brown did
Jul. 11, 2022 at 9:02 p.m.
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Sharks aren't doing LA any favors.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 9:05 p.m.
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Sharks aren't doing LA any favors.


a 3rd for Nieto even 50% retained isn’t a favor it’s a gift.
at best he’s a late 5th even with the 50% retention he’s maybe a 4th.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 9:23 p.m.
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Horrible trades, all.

Iafallo for Dillon would be a terrible deal because Dillon is exactly the opposite of the type of defenseman we're looking for; Bjornfot filled that slot perfectly acceptable for a rookie last season and is only going to get better, so trading him for a fifth is insane. And trading Matt Roy for no reason is awful.

The idea that with all of the young forwards brimming with promise we have on the roster and under contract now, plus the 4 or 5 excellent prospects we have in the system developing, we'd have to go outside the organization for Matt Nieto is just absurd.

The less said about trading Quinton Byfield, the better.

I understand the attraction of making ACGMs for teams about which you know very little, but this is absolutely dreadful, revealing a complete lack of understanding of our team, its management and direction.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 9:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
a 3rd for Nieto even 50% retained isn’t a favor it’s a gift.
at best he’s a late 5th even with the 50% retention he’s maybe a 4th.


But we need him so badly, because we only have Byfield, Grundstrom, Kaliyev, Kupari, Lizotte, Turcotte and Vilardi to play in our bottom 6.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 9:41 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Horrible trades, all.

Iafallo for Dillon would be a terrible deal because Dillon is exactly the opposite of the type of defenseman we're looking for; Bjornfot filled that slot perfectly acceptable for a rookie last season and is only going to get better, so trading him for a fifth is insane. And trading Matt Roy for no reason is awful.

The idea that with all of the young forwards brimming with promise we have on the roster and under contract now, plus the 4 or 5 excellent prospects we have in the system developing, we'd have to go outside the organization for Matt Nieto is just absurd.

The less said about trading Quinton Byfield, the better.

I understand the attraction of making ACGMs for teams about which you know very little, but this is absolutely dreadful, revealing a complete lack of understanding of our team, its management and direction.


i understand the attraction of emphatically expressing ones opinions behind the anonymity of the internet, but this is absolutely inconsiderate, revealing a complete lack of understanding of respect for others ideas and forums in which ideas are exchanged, bud
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 9:57 p.m.
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Quoting: svensk_forskare
i understand the attraction of emphatically expressing ones opinions behind the anonymity of the internet, but this is absolutely inconsiderate, revealing a complete lack of understanding of respect for others ideas and forums in which ideas are exchanged, bud


I apologize for the intensity of my over-reaction to your post.

Thank you for reminding me of my social obligation to treat others with respect.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 10:00 p.m.
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Jul. 11, 2022 at 11:10 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I apologize for the intensity of my over-reaction to your post.

Thank you for reminding me of my social obligation to treat others with respect.


Quoting: svensk_forskare
i understand the attraction of emphatically expressing ones opinions behind the anonymity of the internet, but this is absolutely inconsiderate, revealing a complete lack of understanding of respect for others ideas and forums in which ideas are exchanged, bud


I commend you both for not being petty! this is sharing ideas and thoughts and thinking outside the box combined with conservative approaches we can all come to a solid middle ground that’s good for our fav teams!
Jul. 11, 2022 at 11:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
I commend you both for not being petty! this is sharing ideas and thoughts and thinking outside the box combined with conservative approaches we can all come to a solid middle ground that’s good for our fav teams!


Well, he was right and I was wrong. There's no other way to say it and no way around it. I shouldn't have flown off the handle like that. I may have excuses, but I don't have any reason or justification, for my vehemence. I'm glad he responded in a gentlemanly way.
Jul. 11, 2022 at 11:19 p.m.
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Well, he was right and I was wrong. There's no other way to say it and no way around it. I shouldn't have flown off the handle like that. I may have excuses, but I don't have any reason or justification, for my vehemence. I'm glad he responded in a gentlemanly way.


and your response and acceptance is even more so! this is extremely rare on social media!
Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:06 a.m.
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Very nice conversation.
I have read many of Old's comments in the past and this was certainly out of character.
Obviously this post touched a raw nerve, and he was very gentlemanly and apologized.
It is shame that his responce is not the norm, but rather exception.
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Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:43 a.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
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Very nice conversation.
I have read many of Old's comments in the past and this was certainly out of character.
Obviously this post touched a raw nerve, and he was very gentlemanly and apologized.
It is shame that his responce is not the norm, but rather exception.


Thanks for the kind words and moral support. I guess I just got worked up at seeing our carefully crafted strategic plan*, now coming to fruition**, wrecked by some bad ideas.

* Including one of the 5 best prospect pools
** I think that we're further along towards setting our 2022-2023 roster than any other team, with only two almost-certain-to-stay RFAs to sign (Anderson and Durzi) unless we make some blockbuster deal for a #1 LD.
Jul. 12, 2022 at 11:52 a.m.
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Thanks for the kind words and moral support. I guess I just got worked up at seeing our carefully crafted strategic plan*, now coming to fruition**, wrecked by some bad ideas.

* Including one of the 5 best prospect pools
** I think that we're further along towards setting our 2022-2023 roster than any other team, with only two almost-certain-to-stay RFAs to sign (Anderson and Durzi) unless we make some blockbuster deal for a #1 LD.


yeah i certainly would not have gotten the value of bjornfot right, and i do still see chychrun as a fit, but youre right the values are probably off in the rest...
especially knowing how patient rob blake has been in the past
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