Dumba doesn’t make sense for Vancouver. Too old, and is a pending UFA

He comes with an extension in this trade... And as I said, this offer probably gets beat by a team like Pittsburgh if Marino is on the table

He said he comes with an extension

I agree that this is it for Minnesota

Vancouver would probably want Faber or Addison over Dumba but you guys just got Faber and Addison is young and cheap so I doubt that happens. I just don't think it's a good fit for either side to be completely honest.

And I said he is a little too old. We need someone who is U25

To me, I feel like going after Miller would end up making the cap situation worse. Assuming it comes with an 8m AAV extension (I think he might get more), It would leave only 7m to fill 6 roster spots, including resigning Boldy who I think best case scenario gets 3m but realistically gets 4m-7m depending on his season and term, leaving it difficult to make the money work.

Ideally I would move Dumba for picks or prospects and retain half if need be, and sign some cheap youngish players like Hartman and Gaudreau were and hope they can outperform their caphit and bide time until some prospects can step into the lineup.

I think this season should be to set up the team to compete from 2024 and beyond, and not try to force it to happen this season, because that may screw it up later on.

I don't necessarily disagree, but the only player we'd really have to pay in the years we have large dead cap is Boldy. Rossi, Lambos, Faber, etc. all would be paid when we are only on the hook for 800k in dead cap, so I'm not too worried about needing space the next 3 years.

Say Boldy gets a 3 year bridge at $3.5M AAV, we'd have about $4M in space. Faber will take about 850k to replace Kulikov. I don't think Addison makes anything more than $1M unless he has a great year (I'd guess about $950k), which finalizes the blue line. Gustavsson (or another backup) is probably another $1.25M. That leaves $900k to sign Gaudreau and Duhaime, but I have a hard time believing we wouldn't see another $1M increase in cap space next offseason unless there's another COVID outbreak mid-season. So that leaves us with $1.9M to fill two bottom 6 forward spots, which is tight but very doable. You could also move Greenway to free up $3M, I think Beckman would fit great on that line.

The 1m increase in cap is already figured into the longterm outlook on here. If this trade happened, I would move Greenway and put Duhaime in his spot. Hopefully this would be enough to keep everyone else around but all it takes is Boldy to ask for 4.5m+ and we are in trouble, with not many options to free up cap beyond Greenway, Goligoski, Foligno, Hartman, Fleury, and they are either core pieces of the team or players that won’t be easily moved. I just don’t want to end up having Boldy blow up this season and we are forced to trade him away or trade half of the roster because we handcuffed ourselves.