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Team: 2022-23 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 15, 2022
Published: Jul. 18, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$10,500,000
6$5,250,000
2$900,000
2$775,000
2$775,000
1$2,500,000
Trades
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  1. 2023 2nd round pick (CGY)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (CGY)
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Sure. There are other UFA options kind of. But Neideritter is so streaky.

Kerfoot plays a two way game, can produce offensively and should fit the system.

Ideal extension candidate, if not sign and trade.
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2023
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2024
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2025
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23$82,500,000$71,038,333$0$200,000$11,461,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
RW
UFA - 8
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
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UFA - 2
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$900,000$900,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000 (Performance Bonus$200,000$200K)
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 2
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
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UFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$912,500$912,500
LD
UFA - 1
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,550,000$1,550,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jul. 18, 2022 at 11:27 a.m.
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Why is our best center on the 2nd line?
Jul. 18, 2022 at 11:30 a.m.
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Why is our best center on the 2nd line?


Oversight. Oops.
Jul. 18, 2022 at 11:52 a.m.
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A fair trade!??!! Involving two Canadian teams?!?! With no passive-aggressive snark?!

You, my friend, are both a gentleman and scholar.
Jul. 18, 2022 at 12:18 p.m.
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Doesn't make alot of sense to me from the flames perspective.
I don't think they're in any position to give up assets for 1 year of control of a middle 6 forward.

Rather save the assets and sign a UFA like Niederreiter, Rodrigues, MIlano or Heinen.
Or get someone extremely cheap from a team looking that has to clear like a Nyquist.
Or even just stand pat.
Jul. 18, 2022 at 12:56 p.m.
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Gonna have a tough time convincing teams to give you a 2nd for him while your over the cap
Jul. 18, 2022 at 8:16 p.m.
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Gonna have a tough time convincing teams to give you a 2nd for him while your over the cap


Flames will have an equally tough time adding a top 6 forward without giving up a real asset.

Both teams are over a barrel, so I see a manageable fit.

Unless Neideritter is the solution - and I hope not for Flames fans.
Jul. 18, 2022 at 11:08 p.m.
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Flames will have an equally tough time adding a top 6 forward without giving up a real asset.

Both teams are over a barrel, so I see a manageable fit.

Unless Neideritter is the solution - and I hope not for Flames fans.


Why do they need to add a top 6 player from a different team? Also Nino is underrated and the only reason I wouldn't want him is because he will cost 5M
Jul. 19, 2022 at 9:07 a.m.
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Why do they need to add a top 6 player from a different team? Also Nino is underrated and the only reason I wouldn't want him is because he will cost 5M


Nino is streaky, lacks consistency. Maybe why he is still on the market.

And yes, I would say the Flames do need a top 6 forward. Peterson, Tkachuk and Toffoli fit the bill, but beyond that I would have concerns.

Backlund: a maybe 2C, 40-50 poijt production defensively excellent, but also aging. I think he gets back to that production yes, but he has this role due to Monhan going in the tank.

Magnipane: a maybe 2nd line player who had a career year last year. Maybe this is what he is. Maybe is his a highly effective 3rd liner. For a team in win now mode, do you risk it?

Coleman: a sherwd pick up last year, came exactly as advertised. 40 point production, plays a good two way game with lots of sandpaper. Do you play him 17-18 minutes a night? That's a debate

Dubé: came on very strong down the stretch, so maybe something has come together. Seen him as 2nd line potential in the past, has the game. Do you bank on that moving into next year?

Pelletier: should make the team out of camp. NHL ready imo. Most would agree starting him on the 3rd line, see where it goes and let him play up the line up. By no means a lock in the top 6 this season, certainly should end up there.

Why I would go with someone on an expiring deal is this allows Flames management to truly gauge if Dubé has taken the next step, and where Pelletier is in his development. To see if Magnipane is the real deal.

If any of those hold true, then you have a player exit, and the Flames can focus on the 2C position (is that Zary?).

For a team in win now mode, they need someone who is consistent and proven..... offensive by committee (which I would argue is the current model) won't be enough to guarentee a playoff spot. Edmonton got way better. LA looks like they are back in the mix. The Canucks could be interesting (blueline issues imo), Vegas if they are healthier may bounce back.

It simply stuns me that the usually active Treliving did not have a Johnny plan B. The need for a top 6 forward without him is glaringly clear. But committing money and term is not the place I would be going this year. 3 players have the potential to fill the rolls, but insurance is needed.
Jul. 19, 2022 at 9:24 a.m.
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Quoting: swinny
Nino is streaky, lacks consistency. Maybe why he is still on the market.

And yes, I would say the Flames do need a top 6 forward. Peterson, Tkachuk and Toffoli fit the bill, but beyond that I would have concerns.

Backlund: a maybe 2C, 40-50 poijt production defensively excellent, but also aging. I think he gets back to that production yes, but he has this role due to Monhan going in the tank.

Magnipane: a maybe 2nd line player who had a career year last year. Maybe this is what he is. Maybe is his a highly effective 3rd liner. For a team in win now mode, do you risk it?

Coleman: a sherwd pick up last year, came exactly as advertised. 40 point production, plays a good two way game with lots of sandpaper. Do you play him 17-18 minutes a night? That's a debate

Dubé: came on very strong down the stretch, so maybe something has come together. Seen him as 2nd line potential in the past, has the game. Do you bank on that moving into next year?

Pelletier: should make the team out of camp. NHL ready imo. Most would agree starting him on the 3rd line, see where it goes and let him play up the line up. By no means a lock in the top 6 this season, certainly should end up there.

Why I would go with someone on an expiring deal is this allows Flames management to truly gauge if Dubé has taken the next step, and where Pelletier is in his development. To see if Magnipane is the real deal.

If any of those hold true, then you have a player exit, and the Flames can focus on the 2C position (is that Zary?).

For a team in win now mode, they need someone who is consistent and proven..... offensive by committee (which I would argue is the current model) won't be enough to guarentee a playoff spot. Edmonton got way better. LA looks like they are back in the mix. The Canucks could be interesting (blueline issues imo), Vegas if they are healthier may bounce back.

It simply stuns me that the usually active Treliving did not have a Johnny plan B. The need for a top 6 forward without him is glaringly clear. But committing money and term is not the place I would be going this year. 3 players have the potential to fill the rolls, but insurance is needed.


This is probably the most painful thing I've ever read on this site as none of it made any sense at all. Who the hell is Peterson? If Calgary spends assets to acquire a middle 6 forward like Kerfoot then one of Coleman, Toffoli, Mangiapane Dube, or Pelletier has to play on the 4th line. There simply isn't any room for him with the top 9 being the 5 aforementioned + Lindholm, Backlund, and Monahan down the middle, and Tkachuk on the 1st line. That's all 9 spots covered. If Calgary wants to make any big investment this year it should be on someone of Kadri's caliber, not more of the same in Kerfoot. In all honesty they are way better off not doing anything rash and reassessing their team during the season like the Islanders did after Tavares walked
Jul. 19, 2022 at 9:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
This is probably the most painful thing I've ever read on this site as none of it made any sense at all. Who the hell is Peterson? If Calgary spends assets to acquire a middle 6 forward like Kerfoot then one of Coleman, Toffoli, Mangiapane Dube, or Pelletier has to play on the 4th line. There simply isn't any room for him with the top 9 being the 5 aforementioned + Lindholm, Backlund, and Monahan down the middle, and Tkachuk on the 1st line. That's all 9 spots covered. If Calgary wants to make any big investment this year it should be on someone of Kadri's caliber, not more of the same in Kerfoot. In all honesty they are way better off not doing anything rash and reassessing their team during the season like the Islanders did after Tavares walked


Except when Tavares left New York, no one expected them to be a playoff team. They were afforded that window of assessment.

Now, if you are arguing that the Flames that a step back to take two forward, I can buy in. But I see a team in win now mode. You can find my thinking ridiculous. That's fine. I see a number of question marks that mark a short term need. Either they make that move now for almost market value, or pay through the nose at the TDL. Unless Treliving is willing to take that step back approach.

Only thing here that changes my mind is if Magnipane is the real deal...... and that is an IF.
 
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