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Panthers guaranteed cup but trade wont happen but works

Created by: AceCane
Published: Jul. 22, 2022 at 11:54 p.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 186/186 (100%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Florida PanthersFlorida Panthers

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Montour, BrandonFlorida PanthersNHL-$3,500,000011---0000--
Duclair, AnthonyFlorida PanthersNHL-$3,000,000011---0000--
Nause, EvanWaivers ExemptFlorida PanthersMinor-$0011---0000--
2023 4th round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---001------
2024 3rd round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---010------
2025 2nd round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---010------
2025 4th round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dumba, MattMinnesota WildNHL48%$3,120,000011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial-$3,375,8342243660414
Change$3,380,000-1-2-20-2-2
Final$4,166 (↑)21 (↓)41 (↓)64 (↓)02 (↓)12 (↓)000

Logo of the Minnesota WildMinnesota Wild

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dumba, MattMinnesota WildNHL48%$3,120,000011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Montour, BrandonFlorida PanthersNHL-$3,500,000011---0000--
Duclair, AnthonyFlorida PanthersNHL-$3,000,000011---0000--
Nause, EvanWaivers ExemptFlorida PanthersMinor-$0011---0000--
2023 4th round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---001------
2024 3rd round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---010------
2025 2nd round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---010------
2025 4th round pick (Logo of the Florida PanthersFLA)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$4,313,0792045643512
Change-$3,380,000122022
Final$933,079 (↓)21 (↑)47 (↑)66 (↑)37 (↑)14 (↑)000
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Jul. 23, 2022 at 12:11 a.m.
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Umm why is Dumba being traded for like 2 firsts value? lol

Dumba right now is not worth that return, since the Wild need the cap and other GMs know that.
Jul. 23, 2022 at 12:35 a.m.
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Whos first value here? And its retained 48% contract to actually make the team work this coming season while duclair is hurt. Fills the need and is essentially a loan player that happens to be an upgrade for florida d core while wild get decent player return that will most likely out produce dumba; 2players to 1 end of season stat wise and still have 3mil to work with this offseason while getting adequate value for a player who will most likely not return next year if they dont trade him this season
Jul. 23, 2022 at 12:51 a.m.
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Quoting: AceCane
Whos first value here? And its retained 48% contract to actually make the team work this coming season while duclair is hurt. Fills the need and is essentially a loan player that happens to be an upgrade for florida d core while wild get decent player return that will most likely out produce dumba; 2players to 1 end of season stat wise and still have 3mil to work with this offseason while getting adequate value for a player who will most likely not return next year if they dont trade him this season


Colorado fans love trolling wild fans. In what world do you think wild ever would do this? Wild say no.
Jul. 23, 2022 at 12:53 a.m.
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Quoting: Hitagi_Senpai
Umm why is Dumba being traded for like 2 firsts value? lol

Dumba right now is not worth that return, since the Wild need the cap and other GMs know that.


Two 1st? You mean trash return? Wild are taking on duclair and Brandon cap? Two bottom line players on d and o along with 2nd round pick and nothing? Along with Colorado fan thinking somehow wild retain on dumba? Talk about hilarious bad trade for Minnesota
Jul. 23, 2022 at 1:52 a.m.
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Two 1st? You mean trash return? Wild are taking on duclair and Brandon cap? Two bottom line players on d and o along with 2nd round pick and nothing? Along with Colorado fan thinking somehow wild retain on dumba? Talk about hilarious bad trade for Minnesota


Excuse me Duclair trash return? are you f**ken dumb? 30 goals, 60 point player. with 2 years at 3m per left... That's a first alone. Montour's signing bonus has been paid so essentially it's 750k this season. And his numbers have been pretty alright on a bad defensive team like Florida. His offensive numbers have been pretty good for a middle pairing guy. Did I forget to mention HE IS RIGHT HANDED. (Hot topic rn)
Evans is a pretty good prospect. He's projected to be at least a middle pairing dman. 20 minute a night guy. That's not "trash" Then literally like half of Floridas remaining top 4 rounds draft stock.

This trade benefits the Wild so much it's not even funny. Any homer fan you like thinking otherwise needs to take their blinders off lmfao
Jul. 23, 2022 at 9:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Hitagi_Senpai
Excuse me Duclair trash return? are you f**ken dumb? 30 goals, 60 point player. with 2 years at 3m per left... That's a first alone. Montour's signing bonus has been paid so essentially it's 750k this season. And his numbers have been pretty alright on a bad defensive team like Florida. His offensive numbers have been pretty good for a middle pairing guy. Did I forget to mention HE IS RIGHT HANDED. (Hot topic rn)
Evans is a pretty good prospect. He's projected to be at least a middle pairing dman. 20 minute a night guy. That's not "trash" Then literally like half of Floridas remaining top 4 rounds draft stock.

This trade benefits the Wild so much it's not even funny. Any homer fan you like thinking otherwise needs to take their blinders off lmfao


Duclair sucks and isn't good. There's a reason nobody but Florida has signed him. Brandon m is a bottom line d not better than dumba. Get over your blinders because you look bad for this. Nobody but Florida wants duclair dude. Wild don't want a 5th and 6th expensive d in montour. It's beyond laughable that you think wild do.yeah I am sure the c or d prospect will be not even have a chance of ever making Minnesota dcore. This trade benefit Minnesota, no dude it benefits Florida. Minnesota is taking on scraps..nobody is trading for duclair good..his ever good, or okay season and now his career could be done.

You think montour has value because he's rhd? Dumba is the. So is Faber..so no. That prospect wouldn't even have a chance of making Minnesota ahl team. Unless you are baiting considering Minnesota is stacked on d now and prospect pool.
Jul. 23, 2022 at 9:45 a.m.
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Why are you pretending like Duclairs bad. Him alone is worth Dumba when he’s healthy
Jul. 23, 2022 at 9:52 a.m.
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Why are you pretending like Duclairs bad. Him alone is worth Dumba when he’s healthy


Umm no he's not dude. There's a reason no team ever signs him. He wouldn't even make wild 4th line on a team stacked with Wingers. Yop , a dude mo team has wanted even for cheap in free agency would get dumba, sure. This is just trolling at this point
Jul. 23, 2022 at 10:21 a.m.
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He literally got 30 goals and almost 60 points last year. Also why do you keep saying no team ever signs him
Jul. 23, 2022 at 10:45 a.m.
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He literally got 30 goals and almost 60 points last year. Also why do you keep saying no team ever signs him


1 year doesn't mean Jack. Even before Florida resigned him, no teams came after him and he's been like on a bunch of teams on 1 year deal. It's like Toronto fans saying Kerfoot would. In this cap world, better players are being given away for nothing. He's a fourth line player with ability to play in lineup with injuries. His cap alone is negative. If Florida hasn't resigned him, he would have signed another 1 year deal. Stop acting like 1 year means anything.
Jul. 23, 2022 at 12:31 p.m.
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1 year doesn't mean Jack. Even before Florida resigned him, no teams came after him and he's been like on a bunch of teams on 1 year deal. It's like Toronto fans saying Kerfoot would. In this cap world, better players are being given away for nothing. He's a fourth line player with ability to play in lineup with injuries. His cap alone is negative. If Florida hasn't resigned him, he would have signed another 1 year deal. Stop acting like 1 year means anything.


I would gladly accept Duclair in exchange for Armia or Hoffman contract. Even Montour for Armia could be interesting idea.
Jul. 23, 2022 at 11:39 p.m.
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Duclair sucks and isn't good. There's a reason nobody but Florida has signed him. Brandon m is a bottom line d not better than dumba. Get over your blinders because you look bad for this. Nobody but Florida wants duclair dude. Wild don't want a 5th and 6th expensive d in montour. It's beyond laughable that you think wild do.yeah I am sure the c or d prospect will be not even have a chance of ever making Minnesota dcore. This trade benefit Minnesota, no dude it benefits Florida. Minnesota is taking on scraps..nobody is trading for duclair good..his ever good, or okay season and now his career could be done.

You think montour has value because he's rhd? Dumba is the. So is Faber..so no. That prospect wouldn't even have a chance of making Minnesota ahl team. Unless you are baiting considering Minnesota is stacked on d now and prospect pool.


You literally know jack sh*t out side of Minnesota hockey it seems tears of joy
Dumba is not worth that return even at 50% retained (wild wouldn't retain 50% anyways)
Duclair has been a 0.7 PPG player with a 20-25+ goal pace for the last 3 years..
Montour is not a bottom pairing guy, he's a top 4. His numbers don't lie. You don't put up 40-50 points as a BOTTOM pairing d man...
Jul. 24, 2022 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Hitagi_Senpai
You literally know jack sh*t out side of Minnesota hockey it seems tears of joy
Dumba is not worth that return even at 50% retained (wild wouldn't retain 50% anyways)
Duclair has been a 0.7 PPG player with a 20-25+ goal pace for the last 3 years..
Montour is not a bottom pairing guy, he's a top 4. His numbers don't lie. You don't put up 40-50 points as a BOTTOM pairing d man...


Well thank God, an NHL gm knows more about dumba than trolling Canucks fans. Apparently you know nothing about hockey than bias Canucks fan and wild hate.

Montpir wouldn't even be top 4 on Minnesota

You are talking about same duclair who had 1 good year yet only played certain roles because of injuries? Same duclair who when he was a free agent, no team wanted him and he reupped with Florida because of it?

Yeah, check your fact because you look hateful and ignorant on dumba trying to argue a case for montour and duclair
Jul. 24, 2022 at 7:19 p.m.
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Well thank God, an NHL gm knows more about dumba than trolling Canucks fans. Apparently you know nothing about hockey than bias Canucks fan and wild hate.

Montpir wouldn't even be top 4 on Minnesota

You are talking about same duclair who had 1 good year yet only played certain roles because of injuries? Same duclair who when he was a free agent, no team wanted him and he reupped with Florida because of it?

Yeah, check your fact because you look hateful and ignorant on dumba trying to argue a case for montour and duclair


Not trolling, just know what Dumba's value is in the league right now. Because the wild need the cap space. And Montour is a top 4 dman. Duclair is a middle 6 forward.

You literally are acting as if Duclair and Montour are negative value players, given the other draft picks involved are all 4th round or earlier. You're WAY over valuing Dumba. And you are a homer I get it.

You're the one seeming like an ignorant fan here...
Jul. 24, 2022 at 8:48 p.m.
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Not trolling, just know what Dumba's value is in the league right now. Because the wild need the cap space. And Montour is a top 4 dman. Duclair is a middle 6 forward.

You literally are acting as if Duclair and Montour are negative value players, given the other draft picks involved are all 4th round or earlier. You're WAY over valuing Dumba. And you are a homer I get it.

You're the one seeming like an ignorant fan here...


Yeah because I am sure Guerin is overvaluing dumba right? you're downgrading dumba , and have admitted to not liking him. Trying hard to sell a player nobody wants and Brandon monteur. The dude you are talking about would be lucky to be 4th line on wild.

Your the worst Canuck fan on here..overvaluing dumba and JT. And don't like wild fans. Dude you aren't a Florida fan, you defending Florida player's says more about you
Jul. 24, 2022 at 9:24 p.m.
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Yeah because I am sure Guerin is overvaluing dumba right? you're downgrading dumba , and have admitted to not liking him. Trying hard to sell a player nobody wants and Brandon monteur. The dude you are talking about would be lucky to be 4th line on wild.

Your the worst Canuck fan on here..overvaluing dumba and JT. And don't like wild fans. Dude you aren't a Florida fan, you defending Florida player's says more about you


OH I said I didn't like dumba? really?!?! where?

You literally are adding everything you think in your mind into this conversation to try and justify your terrible attitude.

1. I like ALL fans of all NHL rosters. I mean I even had a pleasant conversation with Bruins fans recently...
2. Worst Canucks fan on here? Okay whatever you say buttercup. I'm not the one being an arrogant prick constantly berating another fan because I don't agree with them. I'm simply stating my opinion.
3. This has nothing to do with real life implications. This is all a hypothetical thing, you know on the internet...
4. Dumba has value, but it's not the same value as he had last season/deadline. Right now as it sits, his value is roughly a 2nd at worst (late)1st at best.
5. I am pretty sure Florida wants Montour, and I'm also pretty sure he's their number 2 RHD next season. And I am also pretty sure he'd be your number 2 on the Wild too, given Dumba would be gone, and Addison isn't fully ready yet. Him and Addison may split time
6. I would play Duclair in your top 6, given the giant hole Fiala will leave. Duke has experience in the NHL. is a middle 6 guy.
7. This isn't even about Miller so what are you even on?

Please for your own sake.
Just stop before you make a bigger fool out of yourself..
Jul. 24, 2022 at 9:30 p.m.
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OH I said I didn't like dumba? really?!?! where?

You literally are adding everything you think in your mind into this conversation to try and justify your terrible attitude.

1. I like ALL fans of all NHL rosters. I mean I even had a pleasant conversation with Bruins fans recently...
2. Worst Canucks fan on here? Okay whatever you say buttercup. I'm not the one being an arrogant prick constantly berating another fan because I don't agree with them. I'm simply stating my opinion.
3. This has nothing to do with real life implications. This is all a hypothetical thing, you know on the internet...
4. Dumba has value, but it's not the same value as he had last season/deadline. Right now as it sits, his value is roughly a 2nd at worst (late)1st at best.
5. I am pretty sure Florida wants Montour, and I'm also pretty sure he's their number 2 RHD next season. And I am also pretty sure he'd be your number 2 on the Wild too, given Dumba would be gone, and Addison isn't fully ready yet. Him and Addison may split time
6. I would play Duclair in your top 6, given the giant hole Fiala will leave. Duke has experience in the NHL. is a middle 6 guy.
7. This isn't even about Miller so what are you even on?

Please for your own sake.
Just stop before you make a bigger fool out of yourself..


Play duclair in our top 6? Dude foligno and greenway are better and play on 4rd line. Plus Rossi and Beckman will fulfill his role. Montour would be #4 considering spurgeon as Nd Middleton is wild 1 & 2
 
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