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Why PLD doesnt make sense

Created by: Billy739
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 26, 2022
Published: Jul. 26, 2022
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Season 2023-24 as show above in small print for some reason lol


Caufield -scores 25 goals and 65 point this season securing himself just under Suzuki's deal and term being a Winger.

Dach - will be in year 2 of a 4 year deal but this site wont let me account for RFA's without deals obviously so im including it in the Description.

Harris- From what i can tell Bridge deal is most likely given the depth behind him all playing for top spot and now Matheson and Eddy ahead of him




The rest dont require explinations and i think are straight forward enough as is.
This is MTL's roster with Riley Kidney and Mesar in Laval leading their top line ready for call up

We'll have likely Dach and Ylonen making their cast to move out Evans and Armia.
We'll have Josh Roy jumping from Junior to the NHL IMO who couldnt be more of a perfect fit
Put him beside guys like Anderson and Dvorak with size. They'll create the most possession time for Roy.

Beyond all the youth that will be pushing out players
We have the choice between 2 paths for their Center Veteran Leader

PLD - Mr "i scored 50+ i want a trade" who cant win faceoff's and is consistent only in his inconsistency ironicially enough who wants more then Suzuki/Caufield EARNED

Dvorak - Low Cap and high production rate as a 200ft player who's finished top 10 in faceoffs twice in the past 5 seasons . He's basically Vermette 2.0 or Yanic Perrault 2.0 if you're my age lol


If its me i'd want Dvorak as he'll be leaving just as Riley Kidney will be entering the NHL
We also have Owen Beck who fell out of the 1st round into our laps somehow who will be about 1 year behind Riley Kidney

Thats just what we have or the piece's i value as highest in the next 2 years
This isnt including the Tank for Badard Campaign and what happens if somehow we win him.


Everything with the timing says to me if PLD is a UFA and wants to sign for 6-6.5m with term
Fine i'll support that all day long but to lose depth just to overpay him and F ourselves with Caufield ?

It just makes no sense whatsoever for a player who ALWAYS thinks the Grass is Greener on the other side especially give how WPG declined right after he showed up
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Jul. 26, 2022 at 9:35 a.m.
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because hes a diva
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Jul. 26, 2022 at 9:49 a.m.
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Quoting: Konkarsson
because hes a diva


Agreed

That said French Media turned him into one
Even Draft day was all about how CBJ blocked PLD coming to MTL
It wasnt about how MTL just drafted a Power Forward Center they desired

I feel that problem goes away maybe a few months if he comes here
But the Honeymoon period will wear off and he'll turn on the people .
MTL Media only builds people up to tear them down these days
It was always bad but there used to be the majority who were against Brendan Kelly Sensationalism
Now they all do it , Even Stu Cowan sold out
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Jul. 26, 2022 at 10:20 a.m.
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My theory is that dach doesn’t make it as a Center and breaks out on the wing and Montreal market craves a French Canadian, so drives gm to spend a few million more on Dubois over dvorak, not sure if it’s a few million more plus term upgrade but we will see.
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Jul. 26, 2022 at 10:25 a.m.
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My theory is that dach doesn’t make it as a Center and breaks out on the wing and Montreal market craves a French Canadian, so drives gm to spend a few million more on Dubois over dvorak, not sure if it’s a few million more plus term upgrade but we will see.


Dubois is just as bad so there's no logic there
atleast Dach's young and Teachable

If your were offering up a Center who was legit good then year i get it
But this isnt replacing Danault even let alone Upgrading
Great Power Forward, Horrible Center Option
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Jul. 26, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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Dubois is just as bad so there's no logic there
atleast Dach's young and Teachable

If your were offering up a Center who was legit good then year i get it
But this isnt replacing Danault even let alone Upgrading


Ya I’m not offering rhyme or reason, just the French media in love with the prospect of a French Canadian in a prominent role on the Canadians again. Huberdeau maybe suffice. But still have a feeling there’s a deal in the works for the last guys dead weight/new scenery trio, and possibly floridas first. Maybe make a hole for a successful transition. Not sure if hughes has the same love for journeyman grinder dman, but still a lot to be seen.
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Jul. 26, 2022 at 10:44 a.m.
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Ya I’m not offering rhyme or reason, just the French media in love with the prospect of a French Canadian in a prominent role on the Canadians again. Huberdeau maybe suffice. But still have a feeling there’s a deal in the works for the last guys dead weight/new scenery trio, and possibly floridas first. Maybe make a hole for a successful transition. Not sure if hughes has the same love for journeyman grinder dman, but still a lot to be seen.


See that's the impact they have
Huberdeau >PLD overall regardless of position
Funny enough isnt much worse in the faceoff circle either hahaha

PLD could never hit 70 pts let alone multiple 90+ pts season or 115 last season
I''d much rather pay to attain him as he's got real value for us despite being 3 years older even in his decline he'll out produce PLD's highs

Can you imagaine Dach growing by him?

Slavkovsky-Suzuki-Caufield.
Huberdeau-Dach-Anderson
Atleast with Dach losing faceoffs we're not paying him what PLD makes

That actually sounds really good to me
Gets me a lot more excited then a Center who cant win faceoffs or play D
Jul. 26, 2022 at 10:52 a.m.
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See that's the impact they have
Huberdeau >PLD overall regardless of position
Funny enough isnt much worse in the faceoff circle either hahaha

PLD could never hit 70 pts let alone multiple 90+ pts season or 115 last season
I''d much rather pay to attain him as he's got real value for us despite being 3 years older even in his decline he'll out produce PLD's highs

Can you imagaine Dach growing by him?

Slavkovsky-Suzuki-Caufield.
Huberdeau-Dach-Anderson
Atleast with Dach losing faceoffs we're not paying him what PLD makes

That actually sounds really good to me
Gets me a lot more excited then a Center who cant win faceoffs or play D


Ya for sure I jump at Huberdeau, my only problem is dach, I still think he turns into a poor man’s, stamkos/laine/ovechkin type. Off-hand one timer on pp, but young so possibly prove me wrong, so I still think there’s a 2c hole. We will see how it goes,
Jul. 26, 2022 at 11:20 a.m.
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Ya for sure I jump at Huberdeau, my only problem is dach, I still think he turns into a poor man’s, stamkos/laine/ovechkin type. Off-hand one timer on pp, but young so possibly prove me wrong, so I still think there’s a 2c hole. We will see how it goes,


Only reason i put him at 2C is because it MSL system which upon re-watching games i realized he wont put Dach at 4th C like every other coach would have here.
Case and point did you know after Dvorak was injured MSL chose not to play a Center in the 2nd Center role?
Pitlick and Dauphin were used over Poehling and Evans who were holding down 3rd and 4th lines(they played well too up there)

Why Pitlick and Dauphin over bringing up lets say Schnar ,Dea ,Vedejmo or Paquette and promoting either Evans or Poehling?
Win or Lose whether its in a faceoff circle or 1 v1 puck battles they came out with the puck more often then the rest.
They were playing for Jobs in the NHL next year and for Pitlck it was about finding a home once and forall

Why does all this matter?

MSL System
1st C - OZ /NZ Draws primary)
2nd C - OZ Primary
3rd C DZ/OZ Primary
4th C DZ/NZ Primary

I think this bode's well for Dach
Unlike everyone from Suzuki to Gallagher in Molsons Owned since 2009
Dach might not have to start on 4th line working his way up

I think if you give him strong enough partners as long as they efforts there like an Anderson
He'll always have value and whether he's producing or not those around him will be
I know after MSL moved Anderson to Suzuki-Caufield line that Caufield had 25 points in 21 games with a ton of goals
Anderson meawhile only had like 16pts i think in 21 games and was moved to try to spark that offense which was either feast or famine
Cant say he really had any games i'd call bad where he cost us or failed to help us win. Win or Lose he leaves it all on the ice and is a team leader based on actions alone.

Put that kinda leadership beside a Huberdeau and Dach will benefit greatly by proxy
Plus coach Nichols since joining MTL and MSL has improved our players a lot especially in the Faceoff area with a 4% average increase among regulars
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