Edited Oct. 4, 2022 at 12:25 p.m.
Quoting: BraydenSchenn10istheGOAT
Ah yea I forgot that scotty got injured... I don't think it takes him long to overtake leddy though. From what we saw of leddy last season he is washed. For one of the 'best skating defensemen' in the league he looks so sluggish and inefficient out there. I am not a fan of any facet of Leddy's game.
As for Kyrou I don't like him playing with ROR, we aren't going to get what we want out of him... I would much rather see him with schenn or thomas.
I do agree that the 89-18-91 line was very good
So...
Brown-Thomas-Senko
Saad-ROR-Buch
Neighbours-Schenn-Kyrou
The way that Chief roles the lines all of those guys would be getting good minutes... What do you think?
I generally agree with you, as I said in my reply to A_K I'm hoping they're not super committed to ROR and Kyrou together and Perunovich I think definitely has the talent to supplant Leddy but he's basically out for the season now (Blues announced he's out six months for shoulder surgery) so that will have to wait, if it ever happens. My initial response was what I think the Blues will do, not necessarily what I would prefer would happen.
With Leddy, the main concern is that I don't think the Blues thought out the box at all. And they haven't been thinking out of the box on defense for a long time. Since Pietrangelo left (and even before with Faulk), the Blues have been locking in veteran at high prices for less-than-ideal ages, and none of them have stepped up to be top offensive contributors or shutdown defensemen. I view most of our defensemen- especially the big three- positively to varying degrees but collectively I don't think this group works.
I think Leddy can have a positive effect on a transition game that the Blues sorely lacked last year. He seems to be good at retrieving the puck, though he doesn't do it often. I think he is still good at moving the puck from our zone, through the neutral zone, and into the o zone, even at his declining speed. He may be able to set up a rush play or two. But I don't think he's going to be worth 4 million a year for the next 4 years. And I think if the Blues had been more proactive either in the last few years- when Ethan Bear, Jonas Siegenthaler (or even Devon Toews!) were going for nothing- or even in the last few months- as teams like Boston and Winnipeg try desperately to rid themselves of the cheaper Mike Reilly and Brendan Dillon- then we would be much better off.
With Brown, you have to be careful about his preseason performances because this is kinda what he does- has a great preseason, makes you think he's turned the corner, then fades as soon as he's in the NHL. He did it a ton in Ottawa. I'm not going to be convinced he's going to be an NHL regular until I see it happen. If he is though, I think he is much better suited for the bottom six than the top six, unless he shows otherwise in real games. Much like I think we'll get more out of Schenn as a top six winger than a bottom six center. Kyrou too- if he's going to make 64 million dollars, he needs to be in the top six, somehow, preferably on the top line. I'd rather him be with O'Reilly and getting top six minutes than with Schenn if he's going to be fighting for minutes. We talk about rolling four lines or even three lines but that very rarely actually works for a long time. Your best players need to be playing a lot. They rolled things pretty evenly last year, but this group is not as deep as it was then. There shouldn't be a scenario where Kyrou and Thomas are playing the same 5v5 minutes as Brown and Neighbors.
If everything works out perfectly, this is my "ideal" forward corp:
Tarasenko - Thomas - Kyrou
Schenn - O'Reilly - Buchnevich
Neighbors - Brown - Saad
Barbashev - Acciari - Toropchenko
Your top line is your top line. Schenn - O'Reilly - Buchnevich takes the defensive assignments. Neighbors - Brown - Saad is an offense first 3rd line. 4th line is a pretty classic checking/PK specialists landing spot.