Ya right from SJS

Poor offer for Timo Meier.

And why would Florida give up 4 x $10,000,000 on Bobrovsky for 5 x $9,500,000 for Karlsson? It's still brutal for Florida. And i doubt Bobrovsky leaves no tax Florida for high taxed California. Players do want to make money.

I'm not saying I disagree, but this does solve FLA's big money issues for their goaltending. And it gives Knight way more opportunities to outperform his contract. Which is hard for him to do with Bob and his $10M on the books.

FLA's D also took a bit of a hit from last season, adding Karlsson would certainly help. But yes, he is signed for the extra year in comparison to Bob.

It's certainly an interested trade idea.

Are you insane? No one is giving two first rounders for meier.

Homerism is alive and well.

It's not even about value. If SJ is trading Meier SJ wants prospects and picks for a rebuild not Reilly, Wagner, & Smith
Plus it's BOS so the 1st will certainly be late

No interest from SJ's perspective.

What if Fabian Lysell is thrown in

Then BOS fans are going to come at you with pitchforks
But I would imagine SJ would accept 1st+Lysell+nhler

Get the F out of here.

If San Jose gets offered two first round picks for timo meier, they don’t care what else is in there. Slam dunk. Home run. Throw a party.

Who on earth do you think timo meier is?

Ask has always been 1st+top prospect+nhl-caliber player

According to who? Why should they get that?

I don’t care if some guy on bleacher report said that, it’s utterly absurd.

I mean it's on hockey writers but SJ fans have been saying 1st+top prospect forever. And no it's not absurd at all.

He's a PPG player with a high QO this offseason and a team that's potentially shopping him.

FIala got a 1st round pick and Brock Faber. I'd argue that the value there is *close* to 2 1sts, and Minnesota didn't have to take any bad cap back. I think Boston would do better giving a pair of 1sts over a 1st and a prospect because, beyond Fabian Lysell, there's not a ton in the cupboard that would entice the Sharks. And I think if you're asking the Sharks to take back $3.1M of Craig Smith, plus at least $2.1M of Wagner/Reilly this year plus Reilly's $3M next year, you're going to have to add something else - it's basically the same as asking them to retain that $5.2M off of Meier's hit this season, so something has to be added in for that.

Find a comp. it’s utterly ridiculous.

Ah yes, that point per game player who has - hold on, let me count - oh yes, zero point per game seasons. An astounding .67 points per game in his career.

Oh, and there’s that little $10M QO for Meier, so there’s no guarantee he’s under team control.

Smith is a fine player at that cap hit. He’s been hurt this year, but I’m pretty happy with his deal. This isn’t a David backes level cap dump or anything.

Fiala except better because SJ has the space resign Meier when MN was going to have to move a bunch to try to fit Fiala. And less than Debrincat even though most think CHI traded him for too little

76 points in 77 games 2021-22 and you make a statement like this

Pretty much sums you up entirely

Did fiala have a $10M QO? Did fiala have zero point per game seasons?

Man, split that hair a little finer. 76 points in 77 GP last season is one crossbar off a PPG season, but fine. He's a guy with 2 30 goal seasons and 91 points in his last 95 GP. Legitimate top line winger on most teams in the league.

And you asked for comps and completely gloss over the fact that there's an obvious comp from only 4 months ago: Kevin Fiala. Coming off a 30+ goal, PPG season, big QO that the team wasn't thrilled about having to find room for, so extremely similar situation to what you're saying San Jose is looking at. LA gave up a 1st round pick and one of their top 5 prospects for just the rights to negotiate with him; in this case, Boston is getting the bonus of having 20ish regular season games & a whole playoff run before they have to figure out the new contract (and lucky them, FIala gives them another great comp they can point to with a sub-$8M AAV.)

Since Boston doesn't have a prospect near the same level as Brock Faber, I don't think it's crazy or them to sub in another 1st rounder instead. And again, that's before you ask them to eat 3 bad contracts to make the deal basically cap-neutral for the rest of the season - the Sharks don't give a damn whether or not the players you're sending them are any good, because they're a lottery team and Smith & Wagner are pending UFAs, and Reilly is expensive depth for them next season. They're not just going to take those players to make the deal work when other teams would be more than happy to meet the Fiala price tag without having to include money going back (or paying for retention if they need it.)

Is that point per game? Claiming he’s a point per game player when his best outlier season isn’t even a point per game is a bit absurd, no?

Taking issue with saying a guy that isn’t a point per game player is a point per game player sums you up entirely.

Not really splitting hairs. He’s nowhere near point per game for his career. .67. That isn’t close. His major outlier season (worth noting, he did this while playing completely meaningless hockey) wasn’t even point per game.

Fiala’ s $5.1M QO was big? Really? Meier jsut isn’t that good, his QO is brutal, and trading multiple first round picks is so so so rare, that this is utterly absurd.

76/77 is 0.987 ppg you dweeb. On a website with a huge amount of subjective hand waving that's 1 ppg and all you're doing by focusing on that is showing that you're not capable of assessing Timo's value fairly.

Fiala had a $5.1M QO for a team that entered the offseason with $6M in cap space - so he would've eaten 85% of that.
Meier has a $10M QO for a team that will have more than $19M in cap space - so while it's still a hefty chunk, it doesn't eat up all their remaining money and leave them with an incomplete roster.

Fiala had *one* whole PPG season at the time of his trade - and had 283 points in 419 career GP, a 0.67 points/game pace. Meier has 279 points in 412 career GP, almost identical numbers that work out to...0.67 points per game. If you want to rate Fiala as a significantly higher value asset based on a swing of 5 points (1 more for Meier or 4 less for Fiala and they have the same amount of PPG seasons), by all means cling to that arbitrary measure. But it ignores the fact that the two of them are extremely similarly profiled players and that their trade values should more or less line up.