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Created by: Diaspora
Team: 2022-23 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 2, 2022
Published: Dec. 2, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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  1. Bryson, Jacob
  2. Olofsson, Victor ($2,375,000 retained)
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BUF)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (BUF)
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Top 5 protected
Flip VO to cash-strapped contender w/more retention for 1st
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$63,676,667$0$3,620,000$18,823,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$855,833$855,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$825,000$825,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
G
UFA - 1
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$837,500$837,500
G
RFA - 2
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$687,500$687,500
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,916,667$4,916,667
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Dec. 2, 2022 at 9:44 p.m.
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Neither of those players do anything for Arizona. They want draft picks and teenage prospects that they can build around. Both of those guys are older than Chychrun.
Dec. 2, 2022 at 9:53 p.m.
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Chychrun doesn’t make sense for us
-he’s LH & sucks at RD
-we can’t pay him & Power & Dahlin
-giving up a bunch to get him, to then turn around & flip him in a year or so is just nutty
Dec. 2, 2022 at 10:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Buffalove
Chychrun doesn’t make sense for us
-he’s LH & sucks at RD
-we can’t pay him & Power & Dahlin
-giving up a bunch to get him, to then turn around & flip him in a year or so is just nutty


If we don't start getting better we won't have to worry about signing Dahlin. The Sabres could sign Dahlin to a 10m a year Contract in the off-season and we still would be under the floor by 2m. And that contract wouldn't even kick in until the year after where we are only about 24m under the floor.
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Dec. 2, 2022 at 10:11 p.m.
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If we don't start getting better we won't have to worry about signing Dahlin. The Sabres could sign Dahlin to a 10m a year Contract in the off-season and we still would be under the floor by 2m. And that contract wouldn't even kick in until the year after where we are only about 24m under the floor.


Where do u play Chychrun?
I think it’s debatable he makes us better. He sucks at RD. So while it’s great that he could help the 3rd pair, i think we can use the Cap space better elsewhere
Dec. 2, 2022 at 10:27 p.m.
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Where do u play Chychrun?
I think it’s debatable he makes us better. He sucks at RD. So while it’s great that he could help the 3rd pair, i think we can use the Cap space better elsewhere


He wouldn't be playing RD solely though. Are D naturally shift sides during games. He would make are top4 better. But there's injury issues with him, tough to judge what to give. Arizona isn't gonna get what there asking. And the Pegula's could be pushing this one.
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Dec. 3, 2022 at 12:08 a.m.
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Arizona doesn't need the retention and you are baking the Flip value in as a Buffalo asset . Doesn't work that way. If they do take on a guy they can Flip They're not seeing that return as part of the initial trade value. So yeah this as it stands is a pass
Dec. 3, 2022 at 1:51 a.m.
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Seems not quite what Arizona is asking for and I would protected our 1st in top 10/15
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Dec. 3, 2022 at 6:27 p.m.
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He wouldn't be playing RD solely though. Are D naturally shift sides during games. He would make are top4 better. But there's injury issues with him, tough to judge what to give. Arizona isn't gonna get what there asking. And the Pegula's could be pushing this one.


Just bc our defense shuffles around a little doesn’t mean he won’t *primarily* be on the right side- which he sucks at
So, most of the time, he’ll be playing in a position he hasn’t been successful at

And even if he was good at it,
trying to pay 3 defensemen big $$$ would be a mistake.

And trying to flip him in a year or so would be a dumb idea
Dec. 4, 2022 at 4:36 a.m.
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Just bc our defense shuffles around a little doesn’t mean he won’t *primarily* be on the right side- which he sucks at
So, most of the time, he’ll be playing in a position he hasn’t been successful at

And even if he was good at it,
trying to pay 3 defensemen big $$$ would be a mistake.

And trying to flip him in a year or so would be a dumb idea


He's signed for 2 more years after this one. And Power has played RD, and so has Samuelsson. I be more worried about winning games right know then the Cap. Cause if we don't start you won't have to worry about Dahlin and signing him. I wouldn't give up the farm for Chychrun but he would help. Everyone worries about the Cap, well if we don't get better the Cap will never matter.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 5:32 a.m.
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He's signed for 2 more years after this one. And Power has played RD, and so has Samuelsson. I be more worried about winning games right know then the Cap. Cause if we don't start you won't have to worry about Dahlin and signing him. I wouldn't give up the farm for Chychrun but he would help. Everyone worries about the Cap, well if we don't get better the Cap will never matter.


The Cap is just one of the reasons he doesn’t make sense
And we will have to give up a lot to get him
And both Power & Samuelsson have barely played RD

If the idea is to put Chychrun on the 3rd pair, then fine
Obviously he’d make the 3rd pair much better
But then we’ve got him for 2years at the most, bc we’ll definitely have to flip him
Can’t pay a 3rd pair guy what he’ll cost

And there no way you’ll convince me he’d work in the top4
Only way I’d believe it is if we shift Power over to RD first, and he looks good there (for an extended period of time, not just a few games)

Take the assets it would cost to get him, and use them to get a real RD, and a legit goalie who can backstop this team until one of the kids are actually ready

I like Chychrun, he’s just a bad fit with us
Dec. 4, 2022 at 5:50 a.m.
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The Cap is just one of the reasons he doesn’t make sense
And we will have to give up a lot to get him
And both Power & Samuelsson have barely played RD

If the idea is to put Chychrun on the 3rd pair, then fine
Obviously he’d make the 3rd pair much better
But then we’ve got him for 2years at the most, bc we’ll definitely have to flip him
Can’t pay a 3rd pair guy what he’ll cost

And there no way you’ll convince me he’d work in the top4
Only way I’d believe it is if we shift Power over to RD first, and he looks good there (for an extended period of time, not just a few games)

Take the assets it would cost to get him, and use them to get a real RD, and a legit goalie who can backstop this team until one of the kids are actually ready

I like Chychrun, he’s just a bad fit with us


Samuelsson has played RD all the way back to when he was at the USNDP, No he doesn't play it regularly but he can. Power played RD at Michigan be it not alot, but he has played it. Sabres obviously have no problem with sides for there Dman. That's why loosing Johnson would hurt a bit more cause he plays both sides very well. Like I said I wouldn't give up the farm for him, but he is a talented player and would help us. I would much rather see what Chicago wants for Murphy, think he would be a very good partner for Power, even though his contract is probably a year to long.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 6:40 a.m.
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Samuelsson has played RD all the way back to when he was at the USNDP, No he doesn't play it regularly but he can. Power played RD at Michigan be it not alot, but he has played it. Sabres obviously have no problem with sides for there Dman. That's why loosing Johnson would hurt a bit more cause he plays both sides very well. Like I said I wouldn't give up the farm for him, but he is a talented player and would help us. I would much rather see what Chicago wants for Murphy, think he would be a very good partner for Power, even though his contract is probably a year to long.


Samuelsson & Dahlin should be locked in as partners
Power is just getting going at LD, i don’t think it would be smart to switch him to RD
But, if we actually were gonna trade for Chychrun, Power should be switched to RD now- bc he’s barely done it in the NHL & there’s no way to know that he’d be good on that side
As I’ve stated before, Chychrun is not good at all at RD

And we would have to give up a lot for him
You’re living in a fantasy land if u think otherwise
Dec. 4, 2022 at 6:50 a.m.
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Samuelsson & Dahlin should be locked in as partners
Power is just getting going at LD, i don’t think it would be smart to switch him to RD
But, if we actually were gonna trade for Chychrun, Power should be switched to RD now- bc he’s barely done it in the NHL & there’s no way to know that he’d be good on that side
As I’ve stated before, Chychrun is not good at all at RD

And we would have to give up a lot for him
You’re living in a fantasy land if u think otherwise


Did I say we wouldn't have to, Jesus I said I wouldn't give up the farm. He's gonna cost, but that ain't getting what there asking, the price is already dropping cause ain't nobody gonna pay it.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 9:56 a.m.
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Did I say we wouldn't have to, Jesus I said I wouldn't give up the farm. He's gonna cost, but that ain't getting what there asking, the price is already dropping cause ain't nobody gonna pay it.


Lol, you’re making it seem like we aren’t gonna have to give up a lot to get him
What do u think we’d have to pay to get him?
Dec. 4, 2022 at 10:07 a.m.
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Lol, you’re making it seem like we aren’t gonna have to give up a lot to get him
What do u think we’d have to pay to get him?


I didn't say that I said the price is dropping as has been reported. Fjordy made a decent offer awhile back, I would probably do that. But again that was before the price drop came out.
Dec. 4, 2022 at 10:20 a.m.
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I didn't say that I said the price is dropping as has been reported. Fjordy made a decent offer awhile back, I would probably do that. But again that was before the price drop came out.


I don’t remember what Fjordy’s offer was that you like
 
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