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Discounted Boeser Trades - Read descriptions

Created by: GMBL
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 4, 2022
Published: Dec. 4, 2022
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Description
Most fan bases will want nothing to do with Brock Boeser and his 6.65m cap hit, but doesn't mean their GMs won't.

Going to rank the trades. If the trade is mutually beneficial it will be ranked high, if it's detrimental to at least one side (Vancouver) it will be ranked low, and in the middle would be the trades that don't benefit either side much. (Generally, these trades aren't favorable for Vancouver by design as they would be selling low on Boeser.

#1 - Preds trade
#2 - Red Wings Trade
#3 - Isles Trade
#4 - Blues Trade
#5 - Wild Trade
#6 - Oilers Trade
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Suter, Pius
  2. Zadina, Filip
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (DET)
Additional Details:
I think once Boeser gets dumped, the Canucks extend Horvat to a 56m-64m deal. So the returning roster player is probably a pending UFA or has 2 years of term (with ~4m cap hit).

In terms of value (ignoring the roster player), I think the Canucks will get something between two 2nds and two 3rds, perhaps a 3rd+4th (the Bjorkstrand trade is IRRELEVANT here).
2.
VAN
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (NYI)
  3. 2024 5th round pick (NYI)
Additional Details:
Can't ignore Beauvillier here since he does have some term, and his production isn't much lower than Boeser's on the year.
NYI
3.
VAN
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (STL)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (STL)
STL
    This is assuming the Blues are moving from Tarasenko (7.5m) and one of O'Reilly (7.5m) or Krug (6.5M-NTC). If they aren't sellers they could trade Tarasenko (or Krug) somewhere and acquire Boeser and not worry about if they can resign O'Reilly or not. If they are sellers then they trade both Tarasenko and O'Reilly to contenders and futures for Boeser.

    Thomas and Kyrou have a combined 10.65m increase in AAV next season, a 4m increase in cap would require them to need an additional 6.65m for their raises and another 6.65m for Boeser.
    4.
    VAN
    1. 2023 4th round pick (MIN)
    2. 2024 3rd round pick (MIN)
    MIN
      This is an unlikely fit, but who knows. If Boldy gets a 7m AAV on his next contract, Boeser is coming in at 6.65m, and the cap goes up by 4m (more information will be available by deadline and yes, Boeser could be traded before then). Foligno must go in the off-season (I know Minnesota fans won't like that but doesn't mean he won't get traded), Dumba needs to be traded and can only be replaced with a 1.71m player on the season (or 750k player if they want to retain 960k) but for next season, they need to find 550k for Boeser and a Dumba replacement (750k min), so at least 1.3m from other parts of the roster which is why this is probably not going to happen unless Boldy is coming in on a short bridge deal in the 6s but that wouldn't be favorable.
      5.
      VAN
      1. Barrie, Tyson
      2. Puljujärvi, Jesse
      Additional Details:
      Fire JR+PA Trade #1:

      Now for trades that would have all Vancouver fans calling for an immediate change in management upon hearing the trade. (Might come up with more later).
      6.
      VAN
      1. Fabbro, Dante
      2. Tolvanen, Eeli
      Additional Details:
      A suggested mock trade that I really liked for both teams
      NSH
        Boeser (6.65m) + Schenn (850k)

        The assumptions are that this trade happens after December and NSH finds a way to make their RFA extensions work.
        Buyouts
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2023
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        2024
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        2025
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        23$82,500,000$74,772,917$1,250,000$1,232,500$7,727,083
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
        LW, RW
        UFA - 1
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        $7,350,000$7,350,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 2
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        $4,750,000$4,750,000
        LW, RW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 4
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        $5,250,000$5,250,000
        C, LW, RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $4,125,000$4,125,000
        C
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $4,950,000$4,950,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $1,000,000$1,000,000
        RW, C
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $762,500$762,500
        RW, C
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
        LW, RW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $762,500$762,500
        C
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $825,000$825,000
        LW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Nashville Predators
        $1,450,000$1,450,000
        LW, RW
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $883,750$883,750 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
        C
        RFA - 2
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $7,850,000$7,850,000
        LD
        UFA - 5
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        G
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $7,260,000$7,260,000
        LD
        NMC
        UFA - 5
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $1,800,000$1,800,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $762,500$762,500
        G
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $1,350,000$1,350,000
        LD
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $6,000,000$6,000,000
        RD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $750,000$750,000
        G
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $750,000$750,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Nashville Predators
        $2,400,000$2,400,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $3,250,000$3,250,000
        LW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $3,500,000$3,500,000
        LW, RW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        RD
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
        $3,250,000$3,250,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
        $1,825,000$1,825,000
        RW, LW
        RFA - 3
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $4,150,000$4,150,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $4,500,000$4,500,000
        RD
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $3,000,000$3,000,000
        RW
        UFA - 1

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        Dec. 4, 2022 at 11:43 a.m.
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        What's up with all this Boeser chatter? Has he fallen off a cliff? Requested a trade? Hurt again?
        Dec. 4, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
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        Quoting: Lancebmx
        What's up with all this Boeser chatter? Has he fallen off a cliff? Requested a trade? Hurt again?


        He has fallen off a cliff it seems in terms of scoring goals, but recently he has been given permission to negotiate a trade out of Vancouver (he was going to be a healthy scratch but someone was injured so he played).
        Dec. 4, 2022 at 11:52 a.m.
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        Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
        I think Nashville could be a really good fit, pretty close to home for him and they could use some more scoring.

        Wait until post Christmas and they should have enough accrued cap space to deal around like Fabbro + Tolvanen for Boeser and Schenn


        I took a look at NSH cap situation for the future and perhaps they may have some complications but I don't think it would be enough for them not to do this trade. I would like to add your trade proposal here (will give you the credit) if you don't mind.
        Dec. 4, 2022 at 11:57 a.m.
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        Quoting: GMBL
        I took a look at NSH cap situation for the future and perhaps they may have some complications but I don't think it would be enough for them not to do this trade. I would like to add your trade proposal here (will give you the credit) if you don't mind.


        I dont need credit for the idea, nbd

        As for the future without Fabbro and Tolvanen raises needed they really only need to worry about Carrier and Jeannot next year. I think Jeannot may end up signing a deal like Nick Paul (same with Bunting, I think they both go that route). Carrier might get somewhere in the range of what Fabbro is making right now. It will be tight but I think they can fit it under the cap
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        Dec. 4, 2022 at 12:01 p.m.
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        Quoting: GMBL
        He has fallen off a cliff it seems in terms of scoring goals, but recently he has been given permission to negotiate a trade out of Vancouver (he was going to be a healthy scratch but someone was injured so he played).


        15 points in 19 games doesn't seem awful. For a guy that usually scores goals 4 isn't alot though. I haven't watched him play but I would take a chance on him in Detroit if Bertuzzi is traded.
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        Dec. 4, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
        #31
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        Quoting: GMBL
        Yeah, the current cap space could be viewed as Larkin's extension + maybe a league min player. I do think Ned+Helly's 3.75m will probably be reduced to a 2m back up, leaving 1.75m for Bertuzzi or a replacement to get 6.5m (Boeser is 6.65m but it's close enough).

        I think Vrana's 5.25m has to go, then it would be Fabbri's 4m or Suter's 3.25m along with the cap rises that will be used for Seider and Raymond's extensions, if they want to extend Kubalik, I think they would need to save Bertuzzi's cap for him. They should have plenty of options though.

        Suter will almost certainly be gone after this season. With Kasper looking like he might be ready as soon as next season, Ras having a very nice year, Veleno taking steps and having the flexibility of playing Sunny at center, I just don't see a spot for him. I fully expect Detroit to extend Sunny in that depth W/C role.

        Basically, the stars would have to align just right (barring a fleecing by Yzerman) for a trade of top 6 type guys between Vancouver and Detroit to materialize.
         
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