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Big Trade With Vancouver

Created by: SpennyDubas
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 15, 2022
Published: Dec. 15, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Boeser, Brock ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. Horvat, Bo ($2,500,000 retained)
  3. Schenn, Luke
VAN
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Rielly, Morgan
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
2.
SEA
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. 2023 5th round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$77,967,913$212,500$0$4,532,087
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
C
UFA - 1
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$4,650,000$4,650,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$840,630$840,630
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Dec. 15, 2022 at 9:28 a.m.
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Why on earth would TO move Rielly for a rental and a truly awful player in Boeser and a 32 year old 7/8 defenceman? They lose the best player and the 3rd best player and 2 3rds. For a 3C they won't resign.
Dec. 15, 2022 at 9:29 a.m.
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Pretty sure the Canucks have enough high paid LD who are offensively minded lol
Dec. 15, 2022 at 9:31 a.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
Why on earth would TO move Rielly for a rental and a truly awful player in Boeser and a 32 year old 7/8 defenceman? They lose the best player and the 3rd best player and 2 3rds. For a 3C they won't resign.


Because the leafs are buzzing rn without him. Why not add to the offensive power by rolling the best top 9 in the league and adding some cheaper depth guys on d to slightly improve on what we have now?
Dec. 15, 2022 at 9:32 a.m.
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Pretty sure the Canucks have enough high paid LD who are offensively minded lol


They have already mentioned that they are looking to shop Horvat, Boeser is an upgrade from Kerfoot. And Vancouver gets a legit defenceman who is locked up for the long term and has a good price tag.
Dec. 15, 2022 at 9:36 a.m.
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Because the leafs are buzzing rn without him. Why not add to the offensive power by rolling the best top 9 in the league and adding some cheaper depth guys on d to slightly improve on what we have now?


ROR gives them the best top 9 in the league. Horvat is fine but he doesn't really fit the identity TO has. They are a super strong defensive team and everyone has bought into that identity. Horvat isn't very good defensively, he has a reputation among Canuck fans as being good defensively but there is zero supporting to prove that. On the contrary, his advance stats point to him being well below average defensively. ROR on the other hand has been a Selke candidate for years. He fits Horvat doesn't. I think this year Dubas adds guys who enhance the defensive play and offensive. He won't add someone who adds offence at the cost of defence
Dec. 15, 2022 at 9:37 a.m.
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Pretty sure the Canucks have enough high paid LD who are offensively minded lol


It's definitely not the player they would want but I wager they would accept it since it's such a slam dunk win. Unloading Boeser is a must for them.
Dec. 15, 2022 at 9:37 a.m.
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Quoting: SpennyDubas
They have already mentioned that they are looking to shop Horvat, Boeser is an upgrade from Kerfoot. And Vancouver gets a legit defenceman who is locked up for the long term and has a good price tag.


The problem is they already have two high paid LD who aren't great in their own end Rielly just is not a good fit for them imo......I get why they would move the pieces you ask for I am just not sure Rielly is who they want in return with Hughes and OEL(Obv Morgan is a ton better then OEL but they still gotta manage his cap hit somehow)
Dec. 15, 2022 at 9:39 a.m.
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They have already mentioned that they are looking to shop Horvat, Boeser is an upgrade from Kerfoot. And Vancouver gets a legit defenceman who is locked up for the long term and has a good price tag.


Boeser is not an upgrade over Kerfoot. He isn't even an upgrade offensively right now and is absolutely devoid of any defensive ability. On top of that even with 2 million retained he costs more than Kerfoot. This is all around awful
Dec. 15, 2022 at 9:39 a.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
ROR gives them the best top 9 in the league. Horvat is fine but he doesn't really fit the identity TO has. They are a super strong defensive team and everyone has bought into that identity. Horvat isn't very good defensively, he has a reputation among Canuck fans as being good defensively but there is zero supporting to prove that. On the contrary, his advance stats point to him being well below average defensively. ROR on the other hand has been a Selke candidate for years. He fits Horvat doesn't. I think this year Dubas adds guys who enhance the defensive play and offensive. He won't add someone who adds offence at the cost of defence


I true, ROR is a great option and I'd love him on the leafs I also think he'd be a great fit
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Dec. 15, 2022 at 9:40 a.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
Boeser is not an upgrade over Kerfoot. He isn't even an upgrade offensively right now and is absolutely devoid of any defensive ability. On top of that even with 2 million retained he costs more than Kerfoot. This is all around awful


You can take out boeser if you'd like, the main thing was to get horvat,
Dec. 15, 2022 at 9:47 a.m.
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You can take out boeser if you'd like, the main thing was to get horvat,


You can get him without moving Rielly which is a terrible idea. He's the best defenceman we have. He's also one of the best people in the game and a real leader in TO. We'd be playing even better if he was in the lineup.
Dec. 15, 2022 at 10:01 a.m.
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You can get him without moving Rielly which is a terrible idea. He's the best defenceman we have. He's also one of the best people in the game and a real leader in TO. We'd be playing even better if he was in the lineup.


But he was in the lineup and we weren't. I love Rielly and don't want him gone but we've been playing so great without him. Why not upgrade the bottom 6 or play him top 6 and add a guy like soucy on the back end?
Dec. 15, 2022 at 10:07 a.m.
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Canucks need picks and prospects. Reilly isn’t going to save our defense
Dec. 15, 2022 at 10:09 a.m.
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Canucks need picks and prospects. Reilly isn’t going to save our defense


Canucks need to get rid of Boeser and Rielly is quite the addition, he is a great player with term.
Dec. 15, 2022 at 10:11 a.m.
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Canucks need to get rid of Boeser and Rielly is quite the addition, he is a great player with term.


An offensive d man who plays the same game as Hughes. Can’t have them both on PP1. Can’t have them both on the top pair. We need defensive d men more than anything
Dec. 15, 2022 at 10:39 a.m.
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Canucks need to get rid of Boeser and Rielly is quite the addition, he is a great player with term.


LOL First off Rielly doesn't waive his NMC for Vancouver, Kerfoot is a UFA of no value to Vancouver and 2 3rd round picks. You're simply not getting either Horvat or Boeser with retention for basically garbage. Outside of Rielly who doesn't waive it's pure trash.
Dec. 15, 2022 at 10:43 a.m.
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So going into next year, the Leafs don't have 7.5m Reilly but are saddled with a third line Boesner at 4.5m....no thanks

Why the hate for Holl? Leafs keep him and their picks.
Dec. 15, 2022 at 10:44 a.m.
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LOL First off Rielly doesn't waive his NMC for Vancouver, Kerfoot is a UFA of no value to Vancouver and 2 3rd round picks. You're simply not getting either Horvat or Boeser with retention for basically garbage. Outside of Rielly who doesn't waive it's pure trash.


Rielly is from Vancouver...I'm sure he'd be willing to move back to his hometown. Also, it should be vancouvers goal to get boeser off their team with that gross cap hit. Vancouver is winning this trade
Dec. 15, 2022 at 10:56 a.m.
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Rielly is from Vancouver...I'm sure he'd be willing to move back to his hometown. Also, it should be vancouvers goal to get boeser off their team with that gross cap hit. Vancouver is winning this trade


Who cares if Rielly is from Vancouver, They're heading for a rebuild. And the very last thing Vancouver needs is another high priced LD long term especially one getting up there in age.

And no Vancouver doesn't win this, Once again Rielly doesn't waive. Kerfoot a pending UFA won't get more than a 3rd back plus 2 3rds that are basically worthless as less than 40% of all 3rd round picks even make it to the NHL. Allvin/Rutherford would laugh at this offer and block Kyle Dubas number.
Dec. 15, 2022 at 10:56 a.m.
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Rielly is from Vancouver...I'm sure he'd be willing to move back to his hometown. Also, it should be vancouvers goal to get boeser off their team with that gross cap hit. Vancouver is winning this trade


Double post.
Dec. 15, 2022 at 11:09 a.m.
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Who cares if Rielly is from Vancouver, They're heading for a rebuild. And the very last thing Vancouver needs is another high priced LD long term especially one getting up there in age.

And no Vancouver doesn't win this, Once again Rielly doesn't waive. Kerfoot a pending UFA won't get more than a 3rd back plus 2 3rds that are basically worthless as less than 40% of all 3rd round picks even make it to the NHL. Allvin/Rutherford would laugh at this offer and block Kyle Dubas number.


Rielly cares if he's from vancouver, your whole argument is that rielly wont want to go and you'll lose the trade... so point proven. And do you know how no movment clauses work?? If he doesn't waive the trade doesn't happen. This is the best offer you'll get for bo horvat... which is also getting ride of that high boeser contract
Dec. 15, 2022 at 11:15 a.m.
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Rielly cares if he's from vancouver, your whole argument is that rielly wont want to go and you'll lose the trade... so point proven. And do you know how no movment clauses work?? If he doesn't waive the trade doesn't happen. This is the best offer you'll get for bo horvat... which is also getting ride of that high boeser contract


First off Vancouver needs RD help not an expensive LD in Rielly so Vancouver passes. And if you honestly think this is the best offer that Vancouver will get for Bo Horvat. Then you obviously don't know that much about value.
Dec. 15, 2022 at 12:01 p.m.
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First off Vancouver needs RD help not an expensive LD in Rielly so Vancouver passes. And if you honestly think this is the best offer that Vancouver will get for Bo Horvat. Then you obviously don't know that much about value.


Rielly plays the right side so that problem is solved, and a one-for-one trade between Rielly and bo Horvat, taking in cap hit and term, Rielly is more valuable. This is the first time in bo's career that he is on pace for a point per game
Dec. 15, 2022 at 12:05 p.m.
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Rielly plays the right side so that problem is solved, and a one-for-one trade between Rielly and bo Horvat, taking in cap hit and term, Rielly is more valuable. This is the first time in bo's career that he is on pace for a point per game


If Rielly wanted to go home to Vancouver, then he would've signed with them. Not just sign a new 8 year deal with Toronto. And Rielly is listed as solely a LD on here not both.
Dec. 15, 2022 at 12:21 p.m.
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If Rielly wanted to go home to Vancouver, then he would've signed with them. Not just sign a new 8 year deal with Toronto. And Rielly is listed as solely a LD on here not both.


If you watched hockey games you'd realize the players can play their off positions listed on Cap friendly.
 
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