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Created by: IDKtbh

Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 22, 2022

Published: Dec. 22, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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I just hope I find it along the way.

Pittsburgh could really use some new life. Poulin & Blomquist are a couple of the better prospects in the pipeline and that really isn’t saying much. Not sure this does the job but it’s probably the best PIT can come up with. Suter adds additional depth and Zucker provides some cap relief.

Not sure what’s up with Gurianov but, Kubalik can help fill that void without breaking the bank.

Colorado will have a tough time re-signing Devon Teows, Byram & Newhook next year so, Alex becomes the odd man out. Zadina for under a million for 3 years has immense value if he can contribute to that top 6 playing alongside all world talent. Sundqvist, along with Zadina provide solid two-way additions to gear up for back to back cup runs.

Trades

DET

Blomqvist, Joel [Reserve List]
Poulin, Samuel
Zucker, Jason
2023 1st round pick (PIT)
2023 2nd round pick (PIT)

PIT

Bertuzzi, Tyler ($2,375,000 retained)
Suter, Pius

DET

2023 2nd round pick (DAL)
2024 2nd round pick (DAL)

DAL

Kubalik, Dominik

DET

Newhook, Alex
2025 2nd round pick (COL)
2025 3rd round pick (COL)

COL

Sundqvist, Oskar
Zadina, Filip ($912,000 retained)

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Frans Nielsen: $500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)
Tyler Bertuzzi: $2,375,000 (100%)
Filip Zadina: $912,000 (0%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$82,500,000	$71,435,055	$0	$4,707,500	$11,064,945

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Fabbri, Robby $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW UFA - 3	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NTC UFA - 1	Perron, David $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Vrána, Jakub $2,625,000$2,625,000 LW UFA - 2	Rasmussen, Michael $1,460,000$1,460,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 2
Copp, Andrew $5,625,000$5,625,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5	Newhook, Alex $908,333$908,333 ($850,000$850K) C, LW RFA - 1	Söderblom, Elmer $878,333$878,333 ($82,500$82K) LW, C RFA - 3
Poulin, Samuel $863,333$863,333 C, LW RFA - 2	Veleno, Joseph $894,167$894,167 ($425,000$425K) C RFA - 1	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Määttä, Olli $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD UFA - 1	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 2	Husso, Ville $4,750,000$4,750,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Chiarot, Ben $4,750,000$4,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Hronek, Filip $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD RFA - 2	Nedeljkovic, Alex $3,000,000$3,000,000 G UFA - 1
Walman, Jake $1,050,000$1,050,000 LD UFA - 1	Lindström, Gustav $850,000$850,000 RD RFA - 1	Hellberg, Magnus $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Pysyk, Mark $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 1
Erne, Adam $2,100,000$2,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Hägg, Robert $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1
Oesterle, Jordan $1,350,000$1,350,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Luff, Matt $750,000$750,000 RW UFA - 1

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:08 p.m.

PenGoater99

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You did not find the thought process on this one.

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:10 p.m.

TheeDjeeEem

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Quoting: PenGoater99

You did not find the thought process on this one.

remove a 2nd from each trade and they still say no

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:10 p.m.

IDKtbh

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Quoting: PenGoater99

You did not find the thought process on this one.

Yeah I kinda forced it with the Penguins trade. I do think the value is even although, with how bare the cupboard is in regards to prospects for the Pens - it looks much worse than it actually is.

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:11 p.m.

whitecocoa48

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Well pens decline. I'd rather have Zucker than Bertuzzi

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:11 p.m.

IDKtbh

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Quoting: TheeDjeeEem

remove a 2nd from each trade and they still say no

Lmao. Ur trippin

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:12 p.m.

coga16

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Absolutely not by the avs

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:13 p.m.

IDKtbh

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Quoting: Imagine874859

Well pens decline. I'd rather have Zucker than Bertuzzi

Lol. Yeah, and I’d rather have Pius Suter than Sidney Crosby…..🥴

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:14 p.m.

IDKtbh

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Quoting: coga16

Absolutely not by the avs

I think Newhook for Zadina with 50% retention is even 1 for 1. You don’t?

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:15 p.m.

coga16

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Quoting: IDKtbh

I think Newhook for Zadina with 50% retention is even 1 for 1. You don’t?

No, avs don’t need wingers. Newhook has proven he’s the better nhl player as well

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:15 p.m.

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whitecocoa48

Pens are better

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Quoting: IDKtbh

Lol. Yeah, and I’d rather have Pius Suter than Sidney Crosby…..🥴

Lmao what a joke. I'm over here comparing Zucker to Bertuzzi and you're over here comparing Sid to Suter. Cmon. Zucker has been fantastic this year. He gets into the dirty areas and can do just about anything. Very physical and puts up points when healthy. Not sure if you've watched a pens game this year, but yes I would rather have Zucker than Bertuzzi on this team. Sorry not sorry

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:16 p.m.

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Pensfan303

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Pens easily decline

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:17 p.m.

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IDKtbh

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Quoting: coga16

No, avs don’t need wingers. Newhook has proven he’s the better nhl player as well

This won’t be the deal but I think there is a high probability Newhook is moved before the deadline. Probably in a Bo Horvat deal with multiple 1st round picks involved.

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:17 p.m.

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TheeDjeeEem

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Quoting: IDKtbh

I think Newhook for Zadina with 50% retention is even 1 for 1. You don’t?

not even close b

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:18 p.m.

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coga16

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Quoting: IDKtbh

This won’t be the deal but I think there is a high probability Newhook is moved before the deadline. Probably in a Bo Horvat deal with multiple 1st round picks involved.

There is no chance he’s moved. Especially for a rental.

Newhook and multiple 1st? That is just awful

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:19 p.m.

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Quoting: Imagine874859

I’ve caught a few Pens games and Zucker has absolutely picked up his game this year and has looked good. It’s still silly to make the claim you made. Don’t be a homer.

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:20 p.m.

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Quoting: coga16

There is no chance he’s moved. Especially for a rental.

Newhook and multiple 1st? That is just awful

“No” chance he’s moved? You do realize I didn’t say Bo Byram, right?

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:20 p.m.

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whitecocoa48

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Quoting: IDKtbh

I’ve caught a few Pens games and Zucker has absolutely picked up his game this year and has looked good. It’s still silly to make the claim you made. Don’t be a homer.

I just prefer his game, sorry. Just my opinion

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:21 p.m.

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Quoting: TheeDjeeEem

not even close b

Did Alex Newhook all the sudden become Trevor Zegras while I was taking my mid-day nap, today?

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:21 p.m.

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coga16

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Quoting: IDKtbh

“No” chance he’s moved? You do realize I didn’t say Bo Byram, right?

So you have no clue about the avs and how they do business then

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:21 p.m.

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Quoting: IDKtbh

Did Alex Newhook all the sudden become Trevor Zegras while I was taking my mid-day nap, today?

Did Zadina become good?

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:22 p.m.

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IDKtbh

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Quoting: Imagine874859

I just prefer his game, sorry. Just my opinion

Oh okay, just say you know nothing about Tyler Bertuzzi instead man. It’s more honorable.

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:23 p.m.

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IDKtbh

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Quoting: coga16

Did Zadina become good?

He was never bad. He’s continuously improved every aspect of his game and unfortunately that has not translated into lots of goals yet, but yes, he is a good player.

Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:24 p.m.

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Quoting: IDKtbh

He was never bad. He’s continuously improved every aspect of his game and unfortunately that has not translated into lots of goals yet, but yes, he is a good player.

If he’s good then why are you trying to dump him at 50% retained

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:28 p.m.

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IDKtbh

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Quoting: coga16

So you have no clue about the avs and how they do business then

Well, I know that Devon Toews will cost around $9m next year to re-sign and Byram will likely sign a bridge deal for around $4m next year so that’s $13m minimum. I would imagine adding a veteran forward who has yet to hit his peak (much like Newhook) making under a million would be valuable.

I would imagine Newhook’s contract will be at least $2.5m a year also on a bridge deal so, regardless of how Colorado “does business”, those contracts are something they’ll have to get very creative with in order to navigate around.

A good problem to have, but a problem nonetheless.

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Dec. 22, 2022 at 11:29 p.m.

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Quoting: coga16

If he’s good then why are you trying to dump him at 50% retained

The same reason Colorado fans want to keep Newhook, he can play Center. Oh, and we can afford Newhook if he plays well. Colorado cannot.

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