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Minnesota will retain salary 50

Created by: WWW1
Published: Jan. 19, 2023 at 5:07 p.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 84/185 (45%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because the upper limit has been exceeded by one of the trade parties

Logo of the Edmonton OilersEdmonton Oilers

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Puljujärvi, JesseEdmonton OilersNHL-$3,000,000011---454610--
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dumba, MattMinnesota WildNHL-$6,000,000011---434812--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,125,0002245563410
Change-$3,000,000000-100
Final-$1,875,000 (↓)2245562 (↓)410022

Logo of the Minnesota WildMinnesota Wild

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dumba, MattMinnesota WildNHL-$2,724,324011---434812--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Puljujärvi, JesseEdmonton OilersNHL-$1,362,162011---454610--
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$3,752,6512244623511
Change$1,362,162000100
Final$5,114,813 (↑)2244624 (↑)5110-2-2
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Jan. 19, 2023 at 6:12 p.m.
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MoxNix
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No they won't.
Jan. 19, 2023 at 6:16 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
No they won't.


It's a 1st in this years draft and replacement for Greenway.

You move him for this. Move Greenway somewhere else, and go acquire Schenn or better yet Chychrun to replace Dumba.

If you're referring to Edmonton, for a 50% retained Dumba I think they do this.
Jan. 19, 2023 at 6:22 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
It's a 1st in this years draft and replacement for Greenway.

You move him for this. Move Greenway somewhere else, and go acquire Schenn or better yet Chychrun to replace Dumba.

If you're referring to Edmonton, for a 50% retained Dumba I think they do this.


Not with retention they don't. Maybe not even without retention if they're still in a playoff spot at the deadline.
Jan. 19, 2023 at 6:28 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Not with retention they don't. Maybe not even without retention if they're still in a playoff spot at the deadline.


Minnesota has $16.5M in cap space to spend on TDL acquisitions this year.

They can afford to retain on Dumba, and Edmonton cannot take his cap hit otherwise. Dumba retained is probably a low 1st in value, Puljujärvi on top of that is just there to make the cap work for Edmonton.

Maybe Minnesota throws a late pick to even things out. But this is probably pretty even in terms of value.
Jan. 19, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.
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Nobody is giving a 1st for Dumba LoL
Jan. 19, 2023 at 6:32 p.m.
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Add Cody Ceci, and we will add greenway and no retention on dumbas contract, then the Wild consider
Jan. 19, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
Minnesota has $16.5M in cap space to spend on TDL acquisitions this year.


They'll use it on TDL acquisitions for themselves, not waste 6 mil of that cap space without improving their own team by giving edmonton Dumba cheap and taking on another 3 mil in a problem player like Puljujarvi. Minnesota is more likely to go after productive proven players like Bo Horvat, Timo Meier or Vladimir Tarasenko. Don't forget Vancouver is looking for a RD too.
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Jan. 19, 2023 at 8:21 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
They'll use it on TDL acquisitions for themselves, not to give edmonton one while also taking on a problem player like Puljujarvi. Minnesota is more likely to go after players like Bo Horvat, Timo Meier or Vladimir Tarasenko. Vancouver is looking for RD too.


They want nothing to do with Horvat, too high a asking price. They're more interested in one of Kane or Toews, possibly O'Reilly.

And keep in mind they stay cap neutral with this trade. Dumba at full retention is $3M, and Puljujärvi is likewise $3M.

Dumba (50% retained) $3M <=/=> $3M Puljujärvi.

That still leaves the $16.5M they would of had with Dumba on roster, if Puljujärvi comes over in the trade. They lose nothing, and probably could gain another $3M in cap space by moving Greenway. They still have plenty of cap space to go get further TDL acquisitions.
Jan. 19, 2023 at 8:53 p.m.
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Quoting: IjustNEEDaTROYgamble
Nobody is giving a 1st for Dumba LoL


Depends on the deal….never say never….and we are talking about Ken Holland here…

Quoting: MoxNix
They'll use it on TDL acquisitions for themselves, not waste 6 mil of that cap space without improving their own team by giving edmonton Dumba cheap and taking on another 3 mil in a problem player like Puljujarvi. Minnesota is more likely to go after productive proven players like Bo Horvat, Timo Meier or Vladimir Tarasenko. Don't forget Vancouver is looking for a RD too.


Agreed that this is way too cheap for Dumba with 50% retained…realistically EDM needs to add a little more to make this work
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