SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Barbashev asking price

Created by: bhuntlol
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 25, 2023
Published: Jan. 25, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
STL
    asking price?
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the OTT
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    2024
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the OTT
    2025
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    26$82,500,000$84,286,246$212,500$0-$1,786,246
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $950,000$950,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,640,250$11,640,250
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $10,903,000$10,903,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,100,000$2,100,000
    RW, C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $6,962,366$6,962,366
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the St. Louis Blues
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $827,500$827,500
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $840,630$840,630
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $762,500$762,500
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, C, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $900,000$900,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $750,000$750,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $800,000$800,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD/RD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $4,687,500$4,687,500
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $750,000$750,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $850,000$850,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $750,000$750,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,625,000$5,625,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $796,667$796,667
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2

    Embed Code

    • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
    • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

    Text-Embed

    Click to Highlight
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 3:37 a.m.
    #1
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Mar. 2018
    Posts: 9,352
    Likes: 2,738
    you're looking at a 2nd round pick most likely.
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 6:38 a.m.
    #2
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Aug. 2020
    Posts: 296
    Likes: 112
    Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
    you're looking at a 2nd round pick most likely.


    And maybe C level prospect.
    Shylo_Moxii liked this.
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 6:53 a.m.
    #3
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2021
    Posts: 1,251
    Likes: 465
    Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
    you're looking at a 2nd round pick most likely.


    2nd + 4th + roster level player for Barbashev and Acciari?
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 7:10 a.m.
    #4
    Billy739
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Dec. 2017
    Posts: 6,590
    Likes: 1,629
    I'm a Barbashev guy since like his Brother does now he lead our Junior team.
    That said he's not the right fit for Toronto anymore then Nick Foligno was

    You can go out and pay a 2nd round plus a prospect in the open market landing him pretty easy.
    But he's better off on a team like VGK,CGY or DET where his role as a secondary faceoff guy and shutdown checker would have the most impact.

    For TML from my POV i think Noel Accari Or Radek Faksa makes more sense.
    Faksa's a big heavy hitting shut down Power Center whose consistently top 5 in Faceoffs taken by 4th liners while being a consistent team leader in blocked shots.
    DAL doesnt need him they got Quality Centers pushed to wing because Faksa isnt the same player when you move him out of a Center Role.

    DAL moving his contract now can be active at the Trade Deadline acquiring the Middle 6 RW they'll need for a Playoff Run since Gurianov is on year 3 of his goal scoring decline they'll need to. Faksa gives TML the depth needed at Center for a real run forcing teams to respect all 4 Centers ability's and their size with JT 6'1, DK 6'2 , Faksa 6'3 , & AM 6'3 with 3/4 weight 215-220lbs they cant be pushed around.

    DAL might even pay you to take Faksa in the summer.
    This TDL though Top Centers available with 50% or around win rate are Horvat, Monahan, Domi , Accuri, and Bonino.
    The rest are injured past TDL or their teams suddenly are in Wildcard position after seeded teams took a pounding .
    So this TDL someone might actually pay a 2nd and a prospect for Faksa despite his contract, more if they can get a 3rd team to RS.
    Outside being about 750k-1m over paid he's an ideal player especially given he's far more likely to steal a puck then turn it over as he's far too territorial in Nuetral Ice for those types of mistakes.

    IMO if he was 1m cheaper with the same term i think TML would have already acquired him.
    Same issue MTL has had with trying to move David Savard despite him being a good player he's overpaid in a time where only 2 teams are in a position RS during a rebuild.
    Because i want any Canadian Team to Win a cup i'll say if you plugged this hole with Faksa it would help fortify your Defense and Transitional game which is where MTL despite being worse outplays you.
    I gotta say its a trend i see when i see Toronto games and Highlights but to be fair its a hard role to fill without overpaying a guy to play at that level.
    While Faksa's a Gamble more then the rest he's also easier to move as his 2 remaining years after this are shed.

    Accari to a lesser degree checks a lot of the same boxes with far better production accross the boards.
    That said Head to Head in the Playoffs Faksa has better Quality in his runs and production plus he's a better shot blocker.
    But both would fix what i percieve as TML's single biggest issue in their control of the Neutral Zone
    Shylo_Moxii liked this.
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 7:11 a.m.
    #5
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Aug. 2018
    Posts: 6,366
    Likes: 2,258
    Looking at what TOR has to offer? Probably both the 2023 3rd rounders is a starting offer and might get it done....IMO I dont think Barbashev is what the leafs need. Its kind of a half hearted splash.
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 8:45 a.m.
    #6
    Xercuses
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2021
    Posts: 13,506
    Likes: 3,616
    A 2nd plus probably
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 8:46 a.m.
    #7
    Xercuses
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2021
    Posts: 13,506
    Likes: 3,616
    Quoting: LukaTAG
    2nd + 4th + roster level player for Barbashev and Acciari?


    Accari proably pulls a 3rd due to a lot of interest atm
    Barby probably gets a 2nd but Maybe maybe a 1st is someone is really dumb
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 8:57 a.m.
    #8
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2021
    Posts: 1,251
    Likes: 465
    Quoting: xercuses
    Accari proably pulls a 3rd due to a lot of interest atm
    Barby probably gets a 2nd but Maybe maybe a 1st is someone is really dumb


    That about checks out because you gotta think a 4th and Engvall is equivalent to at least a 3rd lol
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 9:32 a.m.
    #9
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Dec. 2022
    Posts: 2,842
    Likes: 1,447
    Quoting: LukaTAG
    That about checks out because you gotta think a 4th and Engvall is equivalent to at least a 3rd lol


    That’s not how it works. You’re asking the Blue to take on salary that’s unwanted. That doesn’t magically hold value. It’s quite possible that the salary coming back can be seen as the cost of doing business and it’s accepted that it comes back at no additional cost. But you don’t just throw on a random contract that you don’t want anymore if said player comes in and it magically adds value to the equation.
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 9:51 a.m.
    #10
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2021
    Posts: 1,251
    Likes: 465
    Quoting: AC14
    That’s not how it works. You’re asking the Blue to take on salary that’s unwanted. That doesn’t magically hold value. It’s quite possible that the salary coming back can be seen as the cost of doing business and it’s accepted that it comes back at no additional cost. But you don’t just throw on a random contract that you don’t want anymore if said player comes in and it magically adds value to the equation.


    Lmao okay fine we'll keep Engvall and change the 4th to a 3rd. Works out better for us anyways
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 9:53 a.m.
    #11
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Dec. 2022
    Posts: 2,842
    Likes: 1,447
    Quoting: LukaTAG
    Lmao okay fine we'll keep Engvall and change the 4th to a 3rd. Works out better for us anyways


    Wasn’t commenting on value of said proposition. Moreso, the practice of adding random players and trying to combine their value.

    Fwiw, I don’t think the blues move Acciari.
    Shylo_Moxii liked this.
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 11:18 a.m.
    #12
    Xercuses
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2021
    Posts: 13,506
    Likes: 3,616
    Quoting: LukaTAG
    That about checks out because you gotta think a 4th and Engvall is equivalent to at least a 3rd lol


    no cause engvall is a ufa
    so he has no value going to stl
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.
    #13
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2021
    Posts: 1,251
    Likes: 465
    Quoting: xercuses
    no cause engvall is a ufa
    so he has no value going to stl


    UFA doesn't mean no value
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.
    #14
    Xercuses
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2021
    Posts: 13,506
    Likes: 3,616
    Quoting: LukaTAG
    UFA doesn't mean no value


    I agree but if Stl sells engvall has really 0 value to them.
    Accari for engvall and a 3rd is probably what it’d be
    Jan. 25, 2023 at 12:57 p.m.
    #15
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Jun. 2021
    Posts: 1,251
    Likes: 465
    Quoting: xercuses
    I agree but if Stl sells engvall has really 0 value to them.
    Accari for engvall and a 3rd is probably what it’d be


    Depends. They could re-flip for pick or re-sign him in the offseason (there's a better chance he signs there if he plays there). He's a quality bottom sixer.
    Jan. 26, 2023 at 2:49 p.m.
    #16
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Mar. 2018
    Posts: 9,352
    Likes: 2,738
    Quoting: LukaTAG
    2nd + 4th + roster level player for Barbashev and Acciari?


    Sounds reasonable but looks like Army would like to keep Acciari though.
    Jan. 27, 2023 at 3:14 a.m.
    #17
    Avatar of the user
    Joined: Mar. 2018
    Posts: 9,352
    Likes: 2,738
    Quoting: aktobos71
    And maybe C level prospect.


    Possibly, but even then I think that’s a big ask. We’re talking about an over qualified 4th liner, and a under qualified 3rd liner. Last year was an outlier year with 26 goals. It’s not realistic for him to reach that ever again. Max he hits 20 goals a couple more times in his career. 2nd Round Pick or a B level prospect would make me content with the situation.
     
    Reply
    To create a post please Login or Register
    Question:
    Options:
    Add Option
    Submit Poll