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Meier and a D-Man

Team: 2022-23 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 26, 2023
Published: Jan. 26, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Meier, Timo
  2. 2024 5th round pick (COL)
SJS
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey
  2. Savoie, Matthew
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BUF)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
1st rounder is top 10 protected. Both 1st and 3rd move back a year if pick is in the top ten
2.
VAN
  1. Bloom, Josh
  2. 2023 4th round pick (BUF)
Buyouts
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$62,026,667$0$3,620,000$20,473,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
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NMC
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
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$855,833$855,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW, RW
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
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UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
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$825,000$825,000
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$837,500$837,500
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RFA - 2
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$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
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UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
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RFA - 2
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$687,500$687,500
RD
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,916,667$4,916,667
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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Jan. 26, 2023 at 4:58 p.m.
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Schenn is probably going to cost more than that because of his low contract
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Jan. 26, 2023 at 5:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Taz
Schenn is probably going to cost more than that because of his low contract


Bloom is a good prospect. I'd prefer to trade a higher pick
Jan. 26, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.
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Please get tuch back with skinner and Tage. Put Quinn with cozens and meier, olofsson with peterka and jost.
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Jan. 26, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
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Sharks should accept.
Jan. 26, 2023 at 5:47 p.m.
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Canucks decline
If we trade Schenn we would not be taking cap back.IMHO.
Jan. 26, 2023 at 6:37 p.m.
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Quoting: sleeparc
Sharks should accept.


The Sharks should absolutely not accept. Savoie is unlikely to ever be as good as Meier is right now. And a young third-line center + mid-range (or worse) first-round pick isn't enough to match Meier's value when the Sharks don't need to trade him.
Jan. 27, 2023 at 3:34 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Please get tuch back with skinner and Tage. Put Quinn with cozens and meier, olofsson with peterka and jost.


That was just a mistake. They are supposed to be swapped. Can't break up that top line. Fully aware of that.
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Jan. 27, 2023 at 3:45 a.m.
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The Sharks should absolutely not accept. Savoie is unlikely to ever be as good as Meier is right now. And a young third-line center + mid-range (or worse) first-round pick isn't enough to match Meier's value when the Sharks don't need to trade him.


What makes you say that?

Meier played in the Q, a league that is notorious for high scoring, and the most points he had was 90.
Savoie had 90 last year and is on pace for 89 this year.

Both were drafted #9OA.

Savoie <> Meier straight up is a fair deal. I don't wanna give up more than that. Maybe I would give you a 2nd on top.
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 5:56 p.m.
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
What makes you say that?

Meier played in the Q, a league that is notorious for high scoring, and the most points he had was 90.
Savoie had 90 last year and is on pace for 89 this year.

Both were drafted #9OA.

Savoie <> Meier straight up is a fair deal. I don't wanna give up more than that. Maybe I would give you a 2nd on top.


Why would a team trade a true first-line forward for just a top-6 forward prospect? Even if both parties like Savoie to become a first-line forward, there is a lot more value in a 26-year-old first-liner than a 19-year-old prospect who might become one. Going into last season, would you have traded Alex Tuch for William Eklund? Of course not. The value of a young player who is already producing as a first-liner is much, much higher than a guy who might be as good as him one day.

And I wasn't knocking Savoie, just looking at historical stats of how many prospects actually end up as point-per-game players and it's not as common as you might think, even for guys picked in the top-10 of drafts. According to Byron Bader's (Hockey Prospecting) study, only about 18% of players drafted with picks 6-10 in the NHL draft turn out to be "star" players (forwards who produce 0.7 or more points per game, 0.45 for Dmen). While I don't like using the term "star" so loosely, the truth remains that while Savoie and many other guys have the talent to be high draft picks, many of them just don't end up stars at the NHL level. For every Meier, there are several Pavel Zachas and Brett Connleys.
 
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