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Kane to the islanders

Created by: Kyle_Davidson
Team: 2022-23 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 30, 2023
Published: Jan. 30, 2023
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Trades
CHI
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  3. 2024 1st round pick (NYI)
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If the pick is transferred to Vancouver as a result of the condition of the Horvat trade or is not transferred and in the top 3 then this pick becomes a 2025 first
NYI
  1. Kane, Patrick ($5,250,000 retained)
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2023
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 12:43 a.m.
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
I know what it is, and am demeaning the quality of that stat. A secondary assist boils down to luck in my opinion.


It depends on the play. There are some primary assists that come down to luck.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 12:45 a.m.
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2 years isn’t a long time in Kane’s memory. I noticed you seem to handicap a lot of things in numbers and %’s thats fine and all but just don’t think it tells the whole story. I know islanders have a lot of good players even if there schedule is tough I could see them making a run.


How do you know that 2 years isn’t a long time in kanes memory? The isles have lost 11 of 13, they would need to go on a 10-12 game winning streak to get the 2nd wild card spot. Let’s be realistic here . Isles do not have a lot of good players, they have one of the worst group of skaters in the nhl
Jan. 31, 2023 at 12:47 a.m.
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Kyle from Chicago
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Quoting: Db1899
It depends on the play. There are some primary assists that come down to luck.


Also can be said about goals… my point is that if you say Wahlstrom > Kane 5v5 because of what boils down to much higher A2/60 I think you are mistaken in your conclusion. Kane has nothing in terms support from the other hawks putting him on a real team and I’d bet my house he out produces Wahlstrom.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 12:50 a.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
Was an elite player* - kane does not make the isles contenders , they aren’t even going to make the playoffs.


I disagree.

Lee-Barzal-Kane
Nelson-Horvat-Palmieri
Parise-Pageau-Holmstrom
Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck
Pelech-Pulock
Romanov-Dobson
Aho-Mayfield
Sorokin
Varlamov

That's absolutely a roster that would make the playoffs over Caps or Sabres and even Penguins. And would likely go far.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 12:51 a.m.
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Kyle from Chicago
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Quoting: Db1899
How do you know that 2 years isn’t a long time in kanes memory? The isles have lost 11 of 13, they would need to go on a 10-12 game winning streak to get the 2nd wild card spot. Let’s be realistic here . Isles do not have a lot of good players, they have one of the worst group of skaters in the nhl


I figure Kane wouldn’t consider 2 years long because of the comments I’ve heard in recent years about the hawks competing, especially in the late stan bowman era. I’m not going to claim to know what up with the islanders, but they seem like they are going all in for whatever reason. Picking up Patrick Kane would be the kind of move only made by the islanders if they went on a decent run after the all star break anyways.
 
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