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Team: 2022-23 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 31, 2023
Published: Jan. 31, 2023
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Draft picks and retention of salary on account that Arvidson has the extra year and likelihood Varlamov is simply a rental signing back in Long Island next year.
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  1. Arvidsson, Viktor
  2. 2024 7th round pick (LAK)
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  1. Varlamov, Semyon ($375,000 retained)
  2. 2024 5th round pick (NYI)
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 5:54 p.m.
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Arvidsson has been one of the Kings most effective forwards since he was acquired before last season. They're not going to trade him for a rental goaltender.
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 5:59 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Arvidsson has been one of the Kings most effective forwards since he was acquired before last season. They're not going to trade him for a rental goaltender.


Honestly I’d be more interested in acquiring Spence or Grans. What would the price be there? I’m assuming the isles r priced out of Durzi tbh.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Not_Isles5513
Honestly I’d be more interested in acquiring Spence or Grans. What would the price be there? I’m assuming the isles r priced out of Durzi tbh.


I'm not sure what the Isles have that LA would want. They don't need any forward or scoring help. What they really need is a top-four quality LHD and a goaltender.

I can't see the Isles having any interest in trading Pelech or Romanov, but those are the two defensemen that the Kings would want.

At goaltender, the Kings would love to have Sorokin, but to afford him the Islanders would need to take back Petersen. I don't see the Islanders wanting to do that either, at least not at a price that the Kings would be willing to consider.

The Kings may consider Varlamov as a rental, but they're not giving up either of Spence or Grans for him.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:08 p.m.
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These are trade deadline deals, Sorokin is not going anywhere. Varlamov is a possibility. Arvidsson even if deemed effective for LA is about fair value for Varlamov and LA have plenty of suitable replacements to Arvidson in the AHL given their strong system.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:15 p.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
I'm not sure what the Isles have that LA would want. They don't need any forward or scoring help. What they really need is a top-four quality LHD and a goaltender.

I can't see the Isles having any interest in trading Pelech or Romanov, but those are the two defensemen that the Kings would want.

At goaltender, the Kings would love to have Sorokin, but to afford him the Islanders would need to take back Petersen. I don't see the Islanders wanting to do that either, at least not at a price that the Kings would be willing to consider.

The Kings may consider Varlamov as a rental, but they're not giving up either of Spence or Grans for him.


I wasn’t sure how far Bolduc would get me.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:15 p.m.
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These are trade deadline deals, Sorokin is not going anywhere. Varlamov is a possibility. Arvidsson even if deemed effective for LA is about fair value for Varlamov and LA have plenty of suitable replacements to Arvidson in the AHL given their strong system.


I'd consider giving up a 2nd round pick for Varlamov at 50% retention. The Kings wouldn't trade Arvidsson, even if they got a 1st round pick in return.

They Kings won't make any moves during the season that remove an active and contributing player from their roster.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.
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I wasn’t sure how far Bolduc would get me.


I don't know enough about Bolduc to answer that, but that's a move that would be more likely to happen in the off-season. Looking at his draft profile, I'd say that they wouldn't move Spence for him, but Grans is a possibility.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.
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I don't know enough about Bolduc to answer that, but that's a move that would be more likely to happen in the off-season. Looking at his draft profile, I'd say that they wouldn't move Spence for him, but Grans is a possibility.


Bolduc’s draft profile is from 2019. He’s big, mobile and can skate. I’d like to keep him tbh. Would LAK consider Aho for Walker + Grans? That way y’all shed some salary and isles can trade mayfield.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Not_Isles5513
Bolduc’s draft profile is from 2019. He’s big, mobile and can skate. I’d like to keep him tbh. Would LAK consider Aho for Walker + Grans? That way y’all shed some salary and isles can trade mayfield.


I don't think the Kings have any interest in Aho. He's not better than Durzi or Bjornfot.

Walker isn't negative value. I don't think LA intends to move him during the season, as they learned last season that injuries can and will happen, and they don't want to be without a veteran defenseman in the playoffs. If they move him this summer, they'll be looking for a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick for him.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:43 p.m.
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I don't think the Kings have any interest in Aho. He's not better than Durzi or Bjornfot.

Walker isn't negative value. I don't think LA intends to move him during the season, as they learned last season that injuries can and will happen, and they don't want to be without a veteran defenseman in the playoffs. If they move him this summer, they'll be looking for a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick for him.


I’m not saying Walker is a bad player, but at that price he is overpaid. I think ur best case scenario would be moving him for free like Kullikov.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:44 p.m.
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I don't think the Kings have any interest in Aho. He's not better than Durzi or Bjornfot.

Walker isn't negative value. I don't think LA intends to move him during the season, as they learned last season that injuries can and will happen, and they don't want to be without a veteran defenseman in the playoffs. If they move him this summer, they'll be looking for a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick for him.


I could see a Varly + Salo for Walker, Coepley and Grans deal making sense for NY. Isles secure their long term future on the right and the kings get to clear some salary and add a real goalie.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:46 p.m.
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I’m not saying Walker is a bad player, but at that price he is overpaid. I think ur best case scenario would be moving him for free like Kullikov.


They won't. They'll keep him. Walker is a solid defenseman that just so happens to be blocked by too many quality RHD on the Kings.

He's the same player he was when he signed his current contract, and that was pretty unanimously considered to be a steal when it was signed.

Los Angeles Kings signed Sean Walker (4 Years / $2,650,000 AAV)
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:50 p.m.
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I could see a Varly + Salo for Walker, Coepley and Grans deal making sense for NY. Isles secure their long term future on the right and the kings get to clear some salary and add a real goalie.


Why does that make sense for LA? They're giving up a quality piece of their future, a solid depth defenseman, and their only quality goaltender this season, and all they're getting back is a 35-year old rental goaltender? The Kings don't consider themselves to be realistic Cup contenders to the point where they're ready to give up quality assets to make a run.

If New York takes back Petersen instead of Copley, then maybe that's a possibility, but I don't know why they'd do that.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:53 p.m.
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Why does that make sense for LA? They're giving up a quality piece of their future, a solid depth defenseman, and their only quality goaltender this season, and all they're getting back is a 35-year old rental goaltender? The Kings don't consider themselves to be realistic Cup contenders to the point where they're ready to give up quality assets to make a run.

If New York takes back Petersen instead of Copley, then maybe that's a possibility, but I don't know why they'd do that.


Islanders don’t have the room to take back Petersen in a Varly deal. At the end of the day there is a big difference between Varly/Aho and Walker/Coepley. I’m not even sure where Grans fits on LAK long term given their extreme surplus of righty defenders. I was trying to be reasonable here.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:55 p.m.
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Why does that make sense for LA? They're giving up a quality piece of their future, a solid depth defenseman, and their only quality goaltender this season, and all they're getting back is a 35-year old rental goaltender? The Kings don't consider themselves to be realistic Cup contenders to the point where they're ready to give up quality assets to make a run.

If New York takes back Petersen instead of Copley, then maybe that's a possibility, but I don't know why they'd do that.


I don’t c how Grans would be worth dumping two years of Petersen on his own tbh. U have to remember Varly has put up starting quality numbers throughout his entire tenure in NY, while Coepley is best suited to the role of a #3 goalie. Walker is an overpaid, but capable righty d man. Grans is a good but not spectacular prospect. Unless Grans is a future top pair guy I’m not sure where I went wrong here tbh.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:04 p.m.
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I don’t c how Grans would be worth dumping two years of Petersen on his own tbh. U have to remember Varly has put up starting quality numbers throughout his entire tenure in NY, while Coepley is best suited to the role of a #3 goalie. Walker is an overpaid, but capable righty d man. Grans is a good but not spectacular prospect. Unless Grans is a future top pair guy I’m not sure where I went wrong here tbh.


I think you overvalue a soon-to-be-35-year old rental goaltender. With 50% retention, the Kings are prepared to give up a 2nd round pick for him.

Grans is projected to be a 2nd pairing defenseman, and he's the ONLY defensemen with size in the Kings organization. They might be willing to swap Grans for Bolduc since the latter is of similar size and plays a position of need for the Kings, but they're not going to move him for a guy that won't be on the team in 4 months during a year when they realistically don't expect to compete.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:04 p.m.
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Maybe give it a rest and go grab a beer 🍺
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:06 p.m.
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I think you overvalue a soon-to-be-35-year old rental goaltender. With 50% retention, the Kings are prepared to give up a 2nd round pick for him.

Grans is projected to be a 2nd pairing defenseman, and he's the ONLY defensemen with size in the Kings organization. They might be willing to swap Grans for Bolduc since the latter is of similar size and plays a position of need for the Kings, but they're not going to move him for a guy that won't be on the team in 4 months during a year when they realistically don't expect to compete.


I didn’t think asking for Grans was unreasonable considering the fact they have Durzi, Spence, Clarke, Doughty and Roy under control.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:07 p.m.
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I think you overvalue a soon-to-be-35-year old rental goaltender. With 50% retention, the Kings are prepared to give up a 2nd round pick for him.

Grans is projected to be a 2nd pairing defenseman, and he's the ONLY defensemen with size in the Kings organization. They might be willing to swap Grans for Bolduc since the latter is of similar size and plays a position of need for the Kings, but they're not going to move him for a guy that won't be on the team in 4 months during a year when they realistically don't expect to compete.


He’s 35, but he’s a quality option. Also I actually think the kings can win the cup tbh.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:21 p.m.
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I didn’t think asking for Grans was unreasonable considering the fact they have Durzi, Spence, Clarke, Doughty and Roy under control.


Grans is available, as is Durzi, Spence, and Walker. That doesn't mean they're prepared to trade him for a rental.

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He’s 35, but he’s a quality option. Also I actually think the kings can win the cup tbh.


No one in LA agrees with you. Too many roster gaps and inexperienced players in the lineup. 1st round exit would be disappointing, but anything past that would be considered a success.
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:24 p.m.
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Grans is available, as is Durzi, Spence, and Walker. That doesn't mean they're prepared to trade him for a rental.



No one in LA agrees with you. Too many roster gaps and inexperienced players in the lineup. 1st round exit would be disappointing, but anything past that would be considered a success.


If you added a lefty d man and a tendy I think they r there. Really strong forward group tbh.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:32 p.m.
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If you added a lefty d man and a tendy I think they r there. Really strong forward group tbh.


If by "lefty d man" you mean Jakob Chychrun and "tendy" you mean Juuse Saros, then maybe. Short of that, I think the Kings are looking at a 2nd round exit, at best.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:36 p.m.
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If by "lefty d man" you mean Jakob Chychrun and "tendy" you mean Juuse Saros, then maybe. Short of that, I think the Kings are looking at a 2nd round exit, at best.


I meant Gavrikov and Varlamov tbh
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:45 p.m.
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I meant Gavrikov and Varlamov tbh


I don't think that gets them out of the 2nd round. I'm not a big Gavrikov fan. I certainly wouldn't give up a 1st round pick for him.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 10:49 p.m.
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Arvidsson has been one of the Kings most effective forwards since he was acquired before last season. They're not going to trade him for a rental goaltender.

Quoting: TheMedler
These are trade deadline deals, Sorokin is not going anywhere. Varlamov is a possibility. Arvidsson even if deemed effective for LA is about fair value for Varlamov and LA have plenty of suitable replacements to Arvidson in the AHL given their strong system.

"Arvidsson is about fair value for Varlamov" (which is a hilariously bad take) so we should just throw away the extra year of him because we "have plenty of suitable replacements" for him? You mean, we should take a loss just because we can afford to? What kind of "logic" is that?

By the way, Arvidsson's 34 points would put him fourth on the Islanders among forwards, and his 83 points over the last two seasons with the Kings would put him third.
 
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