You cant just call everything a top prospect you know

Especially to people like you who think everything TO has is trash

I dont, I think Knies is a top prospect that has a lot of value.

Robertson is too injured for me to take a risk on, and the rest would be okay parts of the deal but not the header.

We dont want quantity, we want quality.

Kerfoot is probably a flip for the Sharks - so what, 3rd rounder?

Niemela is a quality prospect, you'd be foolish to say otherwise. This trade equals 2 1sts and a 2nd at the moment, plus Kerfoot. It's a bit short of what Meier will end up going for, but it's in the ballpark.

Leafs overrating Topi. Guy’s a 5/6 d man I’m sorry. Undersized puck moving fins don’t exactly move the needle. Maybe he becomes a 4 in the right system but in reality he’s just another clone of Sandin/Lil. The only way San Jose makes a deal is if Knies and a 1st are on the table. Everyone knows that

How about Knies, Robertson, and a first?

Robertson just acts as the sweetener, if he comes back next season ready to go, he'll be ready to slot in on the Sharks Top 6.

I doubt the Leafs would do that - they'd probably give up 2 1sts and Robertson and throw in another pick as sweetener. I don't think the Leafs are moving Knies for Timo.

I can see them doing it, because Timo is the player they hope Knies turns out to be. But Timo is a bonafide star, and Knies is a prospect with little chance of matching Timo's output.

Make the trade.

He's just a clone of two defenders that are currently both 23-or-under playing 20+ mins per night on a top-4 team in the LEAGUE. The guy's 20 years old, to call him a 5-6 isn't offensive, it's just wrong lol

Here's the list of IIHF Best Defenseman of the WJ of the past 15years:

David Jiricek
Kasper Puutio
Topi Niemela
Rasmus Sandin (worth a 1st rounder if not more)
Alexander Romanov (just traded for a 13th OA pick)
Rasmus Dahlin (went 1st OA)
Thomas Chabot
Zach Werenski
Vladislav Gavrikov
Rasmus Ristolainen
Jacob Trouba
Brandon Gormley
Ryan Ellis
Alex Pietrangelo
Erik Karlsson
Drew Doughty

So, on the low-end, he's a Gormley, which stinks. That being said, history would point to him bottoming-out as a 3-5. You can be wrong, but don't be silly.

Trust me - Timo is sick, there's no doubt there. I just think the issue is, does Knies for 3 years give the Leafs more valuable help than Timo would for 1 playoff run (through the hardest division in hockey). You'd love to think he could stick around beyond this year, but how on earth would they pull it off without losing one of the Core-4.

Toronto has the 19th rated prospect pool yet all of their players that they have drafted plus the entire Marlies roster are all A level top prospects. Most of them are like Robertson all 5ft9 and 170 lbs.

Simple, trade Murray in the offseason, extend Samsonov.

He’s a poor man’s Heinola tbh

Everyone sleeping on Ville tho. 100% AHL war, was I believe d man of tourney 2020 or 2021 at the WJS and can and should be a top 4 LHD. Just hasn’t been given the opportunity to bloom