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Are they missing the boat

Created by: CMac66
Team: 2022-23 Arizona Coyotes
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 1, 2023
Published: Mar. 1, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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I think at some point your options wash away. His contract term and cap hit is only valuable if he's traded with some term left.... Tick tock
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Greenway, Jordan
  2. Jones, Hunter
  3. Lambos, Carson
  4. 2023 1st round pick (MIN)
  5. 2023 2nd round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
23 1st is top 10 protected
2.
ARI
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (PHI)
3.
ARI
  1. White, Colin
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (COL)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$69,949,268$0$1,645,000$12,550,732
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,150,000$7,150,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
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$1,775,000$1,775,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$5,850,000$5,850,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
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$4,300,000$4,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$853,333$853,333
LW
RFA - 1
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$1,125,875$1,125,875
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$883,750$883,750 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,550,000$1,550,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,725,000$2,725,000
G
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$630,000$630K)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$733,333$733,333
G
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$789,167$789,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$886,667$886,667 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$5,291,667$5,291,667
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$1,275,000$1,275,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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They keep rejecting deals, so must be some benchmark they are trying to hit.
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.
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They keep rejecting deals, so must be some benchmark they are trying to hit.


No clue what the true ask is at this point, but I'm guessing they want more now than what they feel like they can get for him on draft day. They probably view the offers thus far as lackluster but pretty sure the ask is outlandish.
Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.
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No clue what the true ask is at this point, but I'm guessing they want more now than what they feel like they can get for him on draft day. They probably view the offers thus far as lackluster but pretty sure the ask is outlandish.


I'm assuming the same thing. The problem they may run into is the motivated buyers go elsewhere and there aren't the assets the want for sale. So many good team lack 1st round picks right now, it seems to be limiting their options. We will see though. It would be wild (no pun intended lol) if he isn't moved again
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:41 p.m.
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No clue what the true ask is at this point, but I'm guessing they want more now than what they feel like they can get for him on draft day. They probably view the offers thus far as lackluster but pretty sure the ask is outlandish.


Maybe that is it: pick quality.

All the offers are late 1sts. Non-playoff teams wouldn’t trade for him until the draft. I can’t see them getting top-10 but maybe something in 10-15 range.

Would make sense if that were the goal here.
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.
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I'm assuming the same thing. The problem they may run into is the motivated buyers go elsewhere and there aren't the assets the want for sale. So many good team lack 1st round picks right now, it seems to be limiting their options. We will see though. It would be wild (no pun intended lol) if he isn't moved again


Quoting: NHLfan10506
Maybe that is it: pick quality.

All the offers are late 1sts. Non-playoff teams wouldn’t trade for him until the draft. I can’t see them getting top-10 but maybe something in 10-15 range.

Would make sense if that were the goal here.


Yeah, I keep hearing two 1sts but it sounds like they want like two top-10 picks (minimum) in terms of value since apparently they were asking for DeBrusk+Carlo+ Boston's 1st + one of their top prospects and some other stuff. From Pittsburgh they wanted two future 1sts supposedly (guess he figures they will be very valuable considering the age of their group).

I'm thinking it's going to be the Blues who get him if someone doesn't pay up. Would suck for him if he ends up in CBJ.
Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:46 p.m.
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Yeah, I keep hearing two 1sts but it sounds like they want like two top-10 picks (minimum) in terms of value since apparently they were asking for DeBrusk+Carlo+ Boston's 1st + one of their top prospects and some other stuff.


I wonder if they are spending too much time on Chych to get best returns for Bjugstad, Ghost or whoever they are selling.
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.
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I wonder if they are spending too much time on Chych to get best returns for Bjugstad, Ghost or whoever they are selling.


I think Ghost is hurt, so maybe that's why we haven't heard too much about him. Apparently there are a lot of teams poking around at Schmaltz so let's see if they at least deal a guy lol.
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:09 p.m.
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Yeah, I keep hearing two 1sts but it sounds like they want like two top-10 picks (minimum) in terms of value since apparently they were asking for DeBrusk+Carlo+ Boston's 1st + one of their top prospects and some other stuff. From Pittsburgh they wanted two future 1sts supposedly (guess he figures they will be very valuable considering the age of their group).

I'm thinking it's going to be the Blues who get him if someone doesn't pay up. Would suck for him if he ends up in CBJ.


Hahahahaha welp way to circle back Pierre! Let's goooo baby! Wow that's underwhelming for Arizona!
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:10 p.m.
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Hahahahaha welp way to circle back Pierre! The goooo baby!


Now I'm curious is this what the ask essentially was the whole time or if the price dropped lol. Makes you think if no one trusted to pay that, but for OTT it's definitely worth it imo. It's finally over...for now.
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Mar. 1, 2023 at 6:17 p.m.
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Now I'm curious is this what the ask essentially was the whole time or if the price dropped lol. Makes you think if no one trusted to pay that, but for OTT it's definitely worth it imo. It's finally over...for now.


I'd love to be a fly on the wall for those back and forths. No prospects, pretty good. Although I love the draft haha so I'm sad they have like no picks
 
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