Canucks don't really seem that interested in picks anyway. I think they take their chances with their own 2024 first

So it'd be like a top 15ish pick for at best the 30th pick? i doubt the canucks even entertain this

I have to think the Canucks brass believe that will be a playoff pick (17+) right? Your teams actions only make sense in that context.

In terms of not wanting picks, i wonder if thats more to do with trying to be good now (aka aqua forcing them) or if they dont like anyone. Id guess the former but perhaps you are right.

Someone may be interested, but I don't think the Canucks are that team. I'm expecting some teams to probably trade picks projected to be better in next years draft for picks this draft just due to the strength of the 2023 class. Boston's pick will most likely be 29-32, but could probably net you a pick expected to be in the 16-20 range next year (first round exit from a weaker playoff team).

(2023 draft isnt actually stronger once you get deep in the first, but please dont tell anyone because i want to take advantage of the misconception

The Canucks would be interested in Liljegren if he actually is moved. Maybe something around one of our wingers can be found.

Not a chance lmao

This has nothing to do with players, and no one on your roster makes sense for lily (unless you want to be stupid and send us petey or hughes)

If we don’t trade back for multiple seconds (unless Simashev falls to the Leafs pick) I will be pretty disappointed.

There is going to be some serious value in the 2nd round

I also like some of the players there.
I REALLY want Dickenson. Ideal McCabe replacement

Boston looks like its pick will be in the 30s. It will pretty much be a loss no matter what unless the Canucks win the cup

The value you gain would be in time value (which i believe would be particularly valuable to the canucks due to your org goals of BE GOOD NOW!!!1!!!1!1!). I fully expect your pick to be better. It's the same idea as trading down, but in time rather than in picks, or in your case trading up in time

Lets be real, the 30th overall pick will likely not have an impact on the team for like 3-4 years. Its better to just make sure we don't go next year without a first round pick

I more or less agree, which is why I have that pick top 11 protected for you.

So if there is a guy they REALLY like, and you think your team is a playoff team, I believe that the value calculation works out.

I also believe that the Canucks and ownership are ****ing delusional but thats another issue entirely lmao

What do you mean by delusional? They have done pretty much what they said they were going to do which is to retool. Whats delusional about that

As in they are incapable of properly assessing their team or player value in helping that team.

There's a reason i think theyll buy out garland for example. It isnt because i hate you, your team, or am just a homer. It's because i think they're an especially dangerous combination of stupid with poor incentives.

Edit: I mean its reported that you turned down 2 1st rounders for Miller from PGH for example.

Dangerously stupid

They turned down 2 1st rounders for Miller because it is simply a trade that is way to hard to facilitate at the deadline and is reported that trade talks will likely continue in the offseason where it is easier to make moves and move bigger contracts like Miller. It isn't as easy as you think it is. They have done nothing else to make you think they are poorly assesing their team. In fact, they have done a very good job at pointing out the flaws of the team. Very good at it. They can't fill every hole overnight but what they have done so far is already pretty good. Trade an expiring Bo and turned him into a top 4RHD, our best prospect, and Beauvillier who has been fitting in nicely in the top 9. Canucks have won almost every trade they made under new management. Even Miller who is thought of as a negative asset by fans is clearly a PRIME trade chip if a team is willing to give up 2 first round picks. They have a lot of work to do but don't pretend that they are idiots. They have had a big mess to cleanup after the old management team. You saying Garland might got bought out is pure speculation that is only backed up by further speculation. There is no solid ground for that. Garland is on a very good contract despite being under utilized. They aren't going to buyout one of their better contracts

When you need to dump a contract like Miller, there is no such thing as "too hard to facilitate".

Thats called incompetence.

Lol I trust a professional management team over some armchair GM such as yourself. You act like Miller's contract is terrible despite him being over a point per game player. Teams are clearly willing to trade for that. If the Canucks show that they are super eager to get rid of him, he will have no value. The fact that Pittspurgh was offering 2 first round picks shows that Miller is an ELITE asset that costs a premium. Such a player with the contract does not often get traded at a trade deadline. It isn't incompetence. You get the best trade you can get. It isn't rocket science. Something tells me you aren't too familiar with how trades work

Appeal to authority is way more funny when that authority is almost universally considered incompetent. I appreciate the laugh

You haven't justified why management is incompetent. They have won almost all their trades, made decent signings, and have done exactly like they said they were going to do. You say they are incompetent because they won't dump Miller which is just silly because you don't "dump" a good player on a contract that currently looks very good. Why should the Canucks "dump" a player they just signed? That would be incompetent. You have showed your lack of critical thinking here. Glad to see that there are some people in need of a lesson. Last time I checked, not letting a point per game player leave for free in free agency is a pretty smart move, especially when their trade value is still super high as seen by the 2 1st round picks they were offered this past deadline. Miller is an asset. Not a dump. You don't dump point per game players.

Its generally a bad sign for your eval abilities when you agree with arguably the worst front office in the sport fyi

They are far from the worst front office. You’re clearly just trolling