Goodbye 17th pick overall We hardly knew you

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Created by: KentMcNally

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: May 8, 2023

Published: May 8, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

There were a lot of "what-ifs" for Montreal's pick from Florida this year.
What if Pittsburgh had won their game near the end of the season against Chicago (!!) and eliminated Florida from the playoffs?
What if Marchand had scored on that breakaway at the end of Game Five against Florida and eliminated the Panthers then??
Or if Ullmark had not made that bonehead play in OT in Game Five, allowing Florida the easy win? Maybe Boston could have scored in Game Five in OT
Or what if Boston could hold a freaking lead with less than 2 minutes to play in Game Seven at home(!!)?
What if Boston scored in Game Seven at home and then ousted the Panthers??
What if Toronto was a playoff team and not a team primarily made up of 4 talented players who are not built for playoff hockey and beat Florida (OK, this last one is pretty unrealistic, but still!!)
Montreal could have had #16 or #17 overall in this year's draft and now they will have #29 at best.
The #29 pick is in the Rangers trade.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Caufield, Cole	8	$7,875,000
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël	2	$1,750,000
Ylönen, Jesse	2	$1,500,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Smith, Will		3	$1,000,000
Hrabal, Michael		3	$1,000,000

Trades

MTL

Garand, Dylan
Lafrenière, Alexis [RFA Rights]

NYR

Primeau, Cayden
Struble, Jayden
2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2025 1st round pick (CGY)

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
28	$82,500,000	$73,912,499	$1,170,000	$4,835,000	$8,587,501

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $7,875,000$7,875,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $1,750,000$1,750,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Farrell, Sean $897,500$897,500 ($557,500$558K) RW, LW RFA - 2	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Ylönen, Jesse $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Smith, Will $1,000,000$1,000,000	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1	Hrabal, Michael $1,000,000$1,000,000
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2	Garand, Dylan $828,333$828,333 ($82,500$82K) G RFA - 2
	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3

May 8, 2023 at 8:43 a.m.

Kyle_Okposo_Lover

Josh Anderson Sucks

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youre just not gonna sign laf?

May 8, 2023 at 8:44 a.m.

jonh514

HuGo is a Boss GM

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Leafs can take comfort in the fact that in losing to the Panthers they are hurting the Habs!

May 8, 2023 at 8:46 a.m.

KentMcNally

Thread Starter

Fall River Habs

Joined: Aug. 2021

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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover

youre just not gonna sign laf?

Maybe. Not sure how Hughes feels about the offer sheet process. Is he like Bergevin?? Not sure.

May 8, 2023 at 8:48 a.m.

NJDevils1317

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Honest question, if Laf's name was Gord Stevenson, from Moose Jaw, would Habs fans be as interested?

May 8, 2023 at 8:55 a.m.

ohmyjlord

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Quoting: NJDevils1317

Honest question, if Laf's name was Gord Stevenson, from Moose Jaw, would Habs fans be as interested?

Honestly, I think so, based on the fact that he remains a former 1st pick overall, with intriguing potential...and that there's a strong possibility NYR may have to move him at low-ish value. But you'd probably see a lot less of it.

May 8, 2023 at 8:57 a.m.

NJDevils1317

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Quoting: ohmyjlord

Watching him often, and knowing what I know of the Rangers, I can't see them completely giving up. If anything, he's the kind of guy that goes in a "blockbuster" deal the Rangers can chalk up to needing to make a move than just making a move.

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May 8, 2023 at 9:10 a.m.

KentMcNally

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Fall River Habs

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Fair enough, I am definitely not a Bunting fan.

May 8, 2023 at 9:18 a.m.

Goalie

Exhausted Ranger Fan

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30 OA and a “what if” pick is not enticing at all.

May 8, 2023 at 9:23 a.m.

KentMcNally

Thread Starter

Fall River Habs

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Quoting: Despise

30 OA and a “what if” pick is not enticing at all.

So you have the Panthers going to the Cup Finals? I could see that. They are on a roll.

The Rangers trade is not a "must" for Montreal. If the value is not there and there is no other reasonable trade for Lafreniere then that is fine. Maybe he will still be a cornerstone for the Ranger's future.

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May 8, 2023 at 9:24 a.m.

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Goalie

Exhausted Ranger Fan

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Quoting: KentMcNally

I absolutely love this panthers team and hope they make it to the SCF tbh. Unless Laf gets an offer we can’t refuse I don’t see us moving him, there’s simply no need to.

May 8, 2023 at 9:28 a.m.

#11

KentMcNally

Thread Starter

Fall River Habs

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Quoting: Dan_the_Man

I made a mistake.

I hit the "Report" button instead of the "Reply" button. I did not actually mind the post you originally put up at all.

May 8, 2023 at 9:33 a.m.

#12

saysthemachine

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Quoting: ohmyjlord

0 possibility he gets moved, negative possibility the player with the most even strength goals in his draft class gets moved at "low-ish" value.

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May 8, 2023 at 10:19 a.m.

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MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

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Quoting: jonh514

Leafs can take comfort in the fact that in losing to the Panthers they are hurting the Habs!

Yup and they are helping Detroit, As of now it looks like the Isle 18th overall pick will become the 17th overall pick. And that one spot could really benefit us.

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