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Created by: newballcoach
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 22, 2023
Published: May 23, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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This lineup is not perfect (debate trade value all you want) but at least it gives them some depth in scoring (that second line is DANGEROUS) and some more puck moving in the defence core. It's a potential way I could see them going if they choose to keep the core intact.

2C candidates I think the Leafs will look at:

Schieffle or Dubois from Winnipeg
Johannsen from Nashville
Hertl from SJ
Schenn from STL
Schmaltz from AZ
Lindholm from Cal
Henrique (if they want a discount option) from ANA

All of those teams are either looking for a retool as well or are moving into rebuilding. I believe most of those guys (teams value players differently) are affordable without moving a core piece.

I like the odds of them being able to help, likely not solve, their RHD in the UFA market and if they can't find a palpatable move for Matt Murray, buying him out is not obscene.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$850,000
1$850,000
1$850,000
1$850,000
2$3,500,000
1$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$950,000
1$3,000,000
1$2,500,000
1$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2023 5th round pick (VGK)
ARI
  1. Muzzin, Jake
Additional Details:
Muzzin is due $2million in real salary after his bonus is paid. That's useful for Arizona to add to their Island of Fake salary cap misfit toys, hence why they are giving up one of their TWELVE picks in the upcoming draft.
2.
TOR
  1. Scheifele, Mark
WPG
  1. Hirvonen, Roni
  2. Voit, Ty
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
I know everyone will say "Winnipeg says no and blows up their telephones in anger" but obviously trade value in the league is fluid. This is just for conversations sake, but it's unlikely Scheifele is resigning.
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$83,468,950$0$0$31,050
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Waivers ExemptKnies, Matthew
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptRobertson, Nicholas
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Haula, Erik
$2,500,000$2,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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Järnkrok, Calle
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Acciari, Noel
$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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Holmberg, Pontus
$850,000$850,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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Lafferty, Sam
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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Schenn, Luke
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Samsonov, Ilya
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Dumba, Matt
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Woll, Joseph
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
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McCabe, Jake
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Liljegren, Timothy
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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McMann, Bobby
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Timmins, Conor
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Giordano, Mark
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1

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May 23, 2023 at 9:17 p.m.
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palhal
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Leafs have been the very unsuccessful trading for upcoming UFAs who actually help them get to the next level. Rather they sign ROR rather them continuous saga of trading futures.
May 23, 2023 at 9:20 p.m.
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If Muzzin remains on LTIR, there probably isn't a money issue as likely insurance pays for his salary. Makes no difference to the Leafs.
May 23, 2023 at 9:25 p.m.
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Like the samsonov signing, I think it's fair for both sides off one good season. Could see Haula getting closer to 3.5m in FA. Dumba 100% gets more money in a weak defence FA. Both will likley get mutli year deals. Could give Haula 3.5x 2-3 and not sign Dumba, just have Timmins in the top 6 until trade deadline and upgrade then. Roster looks good overall.
May 24, 2023 at 7:58 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
If Muzzin remains on LTIR, there probably isn't a money issue as likely insurance pays for his salary. Makes no difference to the Leafs.


Allows them to operate outside of LTIR meaning additions are easier at the trade deadline and they can accrue cap space. They'd much rather be outside of LTIR then inside if they can avoid it. They may not be able to, but they should at least try.
May 24, 2023 at 8:44 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Leafs have been the very unsuccessful trading for upcoming UFAs who actually help them get to the next level. Rather they sign ROR rather them continuous saga of trading futures.


I am just concerned about ROR's fit, cap hit and length of deal. If they can get below 5 aav for 3 or less years I'd be a fan.

I like some of the trade options I listed above better than ROR, but you're right they cost assets which could hurt the team longterm. A new GM may not be as palpatable to doing that as Dubas might have been. Schmaltz is the acquisition cost is right seems like a slam dunk option, but I'm worried a line of Tavares-Schmaltz-Nylander is going to give back a lot on D.
May 24, 2023 at 8:55 a.m.
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Rumor is Leafs are on Scheifele's no trade list.
May 24, 2023 at 9:03 a.m.
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Rumor is Leafs are on Scheifele's no trade list.


Which he could waive of course, but that's interesting to me considering he's from Southern Ontario. I would have not assumed that.
May 24, 2023 at 9:05 a.m.
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Which he could waive of course, but that's interesting to me considering he's from Southern Ontario. I would have not assumed that.


He was a wings fan growing up. Doesn't like the leafs.
May 24, 2023 at 9:06 a.m.
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Quoting: Boojets
He was a wings fan growing up. Doesn't like the leafs.


Everyone is allowed to be wrong grin
May 24, 2023 at 11:07 a.m.
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Quoting: newballcoach
I am just concerned about ROR's fit, cap hit and length of deal. If they can get below 5 aav for 3 or less years I'd be a fan.

I like some of the trade options I listed above better than ROR, but you're right they cost assets which could hurt the team longterm. A new GM may not be as palpatable to doing that as Dubas might have been. Schmaltz is the acquisition cost is right seems like a slam dunk option, but I'm worried a line of Tavares-Schmaltz-Nylander is going to give back a lot on D.


If I had my way, I wouldn't resign ROR. The guys they have had on their team and the guys they brought in (besides Schenn) didn't contribute THAT much considering the cost to acquire them.
I'd even go as far as saying I wouldn't mind Matthews or Nylander traded before the season starts, so the Leafs clear the air on their status over if they would resign in 24/25. It's my opinion that Matthews doesn't want to resign with the Leafs.....Eight years or nine years is enough.
Maybe best long term solution is for the Leafs is to go into 24/25 with lots of cap....some young assets or picks from the Matthews/Nylander trades and have a capable GM who knows appreciates the cap and how it works.
Jun. 15, 2023 at 9:47 a.m.
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Wouldn't mind him as the 2C, if this above is the cost.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 9:14 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
If I had my way, I wouldn't resign ROR. The guys they have had on their team and the guys they brought in (besides Schenn) didn't contribute THAT much considering the cost to acquire them.
I'd even go as far as saying I wouldn't mind Matthews or Nylander traded before the season starts, so the Leafs clear the air on their status over if they would resign in 24/25. It's my opinion that Matthews doesn't want to resign with the Leafs.....Eight years or nine years is enough.
Maybe best long term solution is for the Leafs is to go into 24/25 with lots of cap....some young assets or picks from the Matthews/Nylander trades and have a capable GM who knows appreciates the cap and how it works.


We definitely disagree on the best long term solution. I'd much rather have Matthews, Nylander and Marner signed for long-term deals and then continue to build around them. They're all excellent players. It's going to be extremely difficult for the Leafs to add more gamebreaking offensive players since they generally have to be drafted high, and the Leafs won't draft there again anytime soon. I'd hate to lose any.

Totally fine to disagree. I can definitely see the opposite side it's just not what I would want to do. If you asked the Capitals after 8-9 years of Ovi, Kuznetsov etc. if they wanted to bail they might have said yes, but it's worked out for them.
 
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