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The core 4 player who actually needs to go

Created by: Spaceman
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 25, 2023
Published: May 25, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
TOR
  1. Girard, Samuel
  2. Newhook, Alex [RFA Rights]
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Avs utilize Landeskog's LTIR to take on Tavares cap hit
COL
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Tavares, John ($2,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
I know about Tavares NMC. I know he won't waive it. But if you're going to trade a core 4 guy. He's the one who should move. He's the oldest by far and the leafs just can't handle his cap hit. Trading Matthews, Marner or Nylander would be a mistake. But one of those three will go because you just can't keep all four and expect to have a balanced roster that can win a cup. Quite the pickle for the Leafs.
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
14$83,500,000$59,731,450$0$0$23,768,550
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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May 25, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.
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the one you should move having the actually real NMC sucks, i feel bad for leafs fans.

avs decline probably lol
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May 25, 2023 at 12:59 p.m.
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Quoting: swissmontana
the one you should move having the actually real NMC sucks, i feel bad for leafs fans.

avs decline probably lol


I dunno if they would. Tavares at 11m is crap but at 9m, this would actually be a good deal for the Avs. With MacKinnon and Tavares they'd have a formidable 1-2 at C. We saw how badly this team missed both Landeskog and Kadri this year. no Landeskog again next year. Newhook is good but he's not at that great level yet. He may never be. Avs defense is alos arguable the deepest in the league with Makar, Towes, Byram and Girard. They won the cup without Girard too. They could honestly afford to lose him and still be very good on the blueline and win another cup.

Leafs on the other hand just need balance on the ice and the cap sheet. Girard on D would help them immensely and at 5m for the next 4 years. Newhook would be a good top 9 forward for them and the money saved on JT would help bring in another forward.
May 25, 2023 at 1:22 p.m.
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I agree that he is the one to go but that's way too much money for the avs to take in on one player. They do this and then they'd be in the same problem that toronto is with giving all the money to 4 players
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May 25, 2023 at 3:42 p.m.
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I dunno if they would. Tavares at 11m is crap but at 9m, this would actually be a good deal for the Avs. With MacKinnon and Tavares they'd have a formidable 1-2 at C. We saw how badly this team missed both Landeskog and Kadri this year. no Landeskog again next year. Newhook is good but he's not at that great level yet. He may never be. Avs defense is alos arguable the deepest in the league with Makar, Towes, Byram and Girard. They won the cup without Girard too. They could honestly afford to lose him and still be very good on the blueline and win another cup.

Leafs on the other hand just need balance on the ice and the cap sheet. Girard on D would help them immensely and at 5m for the next 4 years. Newhook would be a good top 9 forward for them and the money saved on JT would help bring in another forward.


i agree with all of your thoughts on the avs - except for Tavares as the solution. The avs cannot give their 2C 9mil. Period. If you were to do this ACGM from the Avs' perspective, they are in a bad position now and in long term. There are other 2Cs that provide enough (not as much as Tavares) production for ~60% of the Tavares contract, and I expect the avs to lean in that direction, or at least someone like Kuznetsov who starts below 7.8 with the caps probably incentivized to retain on.

Also, I don't think they're giving up on Newhook yet. Team control + solid point production compared to his peers. At ~$2mil bridge deal, he's a great value 3rd liner that could see time on the 2nd.
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May 25, 2023 at 10:34 p.m.
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Awful for the Avs once again.
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